Aww, Ted’s not THAT loud, Sam, and Trump’s more of a Philly steak and cheese. 🙂
February 4, 2016 at 10:35 pm
T Poore
Cubans too Go for $1000 Alex
Answer : $30,000,000,000,000.00
Question?
February 4, 2016 at 11:10 pm
WayneM
Seriously, the slate on both sides of this adventure are not inspirational.
It appears George Washington was visionary in his farewell address. Political parties are the bane of decent government.
February 4, 2016 at 11:46 pm
B Woodman
Chris, I must admire your verbal witticisims of late. You do the English language proud.
February 4, 2016 at 11:53 pm
Chris Muir
Well, I’m drunk tonight.
February 5, 2016 at 12:04 am
SteveInCO
It’s entirely possible the election will present us with a choice between “Oh, Shit!” and “Hell, No!” so I can understand getting hammered. And I say that as a teetotaler.
February 5, 2016 at 7:55 am
Pamela
So what were you imbibing for medicinal purposes and how are you this morning?
February 4, 2016 at 11:54 pm
Chris Muir
Not really, but I wanted to say that so bad.
February 5, 2016 at 12:00 am
NotYetInACamp
Way to go. 🙂
February 5, 2016 at 12:14 am
eon
Looking at the choices, I feel like a stiff one or two, and I don’t drink, period, and never did.
(No “moral” issue, just tried it in adolescence and never acquired the taste for it.)
cheers
eon
February 5, 2016 at 9:41 am
billf
Chris,you’re even funny in your own comments section.Good one.
February 5, 2016 at 12:08 am
Swansonic
Well said.
And I’m proud to be an Amuirican.
February 5, 2016 at 12:09 am
Swansonic
Oops – forgot the hyphens.
A-Muir-ican.
February 5, 2016 at 12:11 am
Chris Muir
why dint i ever think of that? dang!
February 5, 2016 at 12:42 am
Swansonic
Maybe a little more Dr. Bombay, as some would say…..
February 5, 2016 at 7:09 am
B Woodman
“Calling Dr Bombay, calling Dr Bombay, come right away.”
February 5, 2016 at 7:58 am
H_B
You must now draw a “Proud to be an A-Muir-ican” poster featuring Sam suggestively draped in the flag.
February 5, 2016 at 5:03 pm
Swansonic
Sounds like a visit from RedLine to me!
February 5, 2016 at 12:19 am
NotYetInACamp
Being one who has walked into the various devil’s dens of political parties and movements and discussed their evils, I do have a choice for this election that I have stated before.
Earlier this week I was discussing the events and the woman said that she liked Trump because of what he said and how he said it. I said that is probably because he really does not have a filter. She said yes, that’s it. Trump may misspeak, and be wrong, but he says what he sees, and, he often is directly on target, or hitting the edge of the target. He can correct himself when he gets more good information. Lefties call that growing, except when a republican or conservative or libertarian does it. I have areas that I disagree with him, but, on the crucial issues of our times, liberty, and survival, he is the person saying what we must do, or at least pointing to where the game is afoot.
I had hoped Bush and Rubio would have been in low single digits of support at this point.
People have been saying that “this” election is the most important election in our history every election for quite a few years.
We finally are at one where the Republic will cease to exist further than the law writer in the white house has taken it so far.
The people who may take power by any means believe that government is the ruler rather than a subject to the people. We only said that communism had to win one election to gain total power. This may be that election, or, it may be the election where the fever breaks and we can cure some of the damage done by the evil of the fever.
In the past I have spoken with rubio and bush. i would not truust them to protect the Republic. I would not trust them to protect the nation nor the Constitution, nor the people and their rights, much less their privileges.
They prepared a menu for us. We reject their menu. Their menu is not the deal.
i support the man who has made a few deals. Donald J Trump.
Remember that the local elections effect your daily lives quite greatly, and those people do pressure the entire political system depending upon who they are. Know who you vote for locally. the more good people put in locally, the better the politcal matrix becomes.
February 5, 2016 at 12:24 am
Chris Muir
Rubio is…let’s just say, compromised, according to my sources, who know the man.
Agreed, from damn near everything I’ve been able to see.
February 5, 2016 at 7:52 am
H_B
He let his mask slip with that “gang of 8” immigration-amnesty push. Before that he was very convincing as a “Reaganesque” – and I loath him all the more because of it.
February 5, 2016 at 1:11 am
B Woodman
Woman, go make me a hot Cuban sammich, with a side of hot (s)trump-et soup.
Given the context, Sam making a “hot Cuban sammich” would entail her, Rubio and Cruz. I don’t think that’s what Chris had in mind!
February 5, 2016 at 8:13 am
Pamela
Ewww. It would never happen. Sam loves and respects Zed.
I’d expect that behavior from Carlos Danger and Bob-on-my-Root Willy.
Donny T would never share a sandwich, let alone any sammich.
Plus who knows what his filling is like or if it is even adequate.
And not those two. They would both be signing like Farinelli when their wives were done with them.
February 5, 2016 at 3:45 pm
B Woodman
Oops. Didn’t think about it, or mean it that way.
My apologies to Sam. And Zed. (And Chris)
(get yer mind out of the gutter. allow mine to float on by.)
Let’s look at Cruz and Rubio and Article 2.1.5. I’ve read the Constitution, and I’ve read Vattel, and I’ve read the letters between the Founders on the reasons. BOTH parents must be American citizens to make their children Natural Born. The reason was to avoid any division of loyalties. One parent makes them a citizen, both parents make them NBCs. Regardless of place of birth, parental citizenship is the key. The Founders intent was quite clear. Takes a lot of lawyers to screw things up this badly.
Born inside the borders of the United States on US soil = NBC.
Born outside the borders of the United States with one or more US Citizens as parents= US Citizen.
Born a foreign national, legally immigrate to the USA, take the oath of citizenship= Naturalized Citizen (not natural born).
You have to be born inside the US to be president. This has all been hashed out before….doesn’t anyone recall when Arnold was Governor of Cali and people were pondering him as a presidential candidate? The consensus of legal scholars was that would have taken an amendment to the US Constitution to permit it.
February 5, 2016 at 7:09 am
Brasspounder
Could be that I’m overlooking it, but I don’t find that definition of Natural Born Citizen in any of the founding documents.
February 5, 2016 at 11:10 am
markm
Schwarzenegger was born in Austria to Austrian parents, so whatever “natural born citizen” means, it isn’t him.
The Constitution never defined its terms, so it should be interpreted in the plain meaning of the words in 1787. The most reasonable interpretation of “natural born citizen” is just citizen by birth – whether that is by location or parentage.
Try that link. I wrote a post back in May of 2011 that I could link to, with links within, that explains my statements above, but I won’t. What I will refer to is yet another quote related to Obama. You’ve heard it, the one about how we can survive this, but not those who would have elected this in the first place. Or words to that effect.
February 5, 2016 at 11:07 am
doc
cmblake6 – Vattel is not the Constitution. He might be interesting as a source to help understand what the framers were thinking, but he isn’t some sort of binding authority.
And no matter how “Originalist” one is, there does have to be some evolution of thinking (such as the old writings giving weight to paternal citizenship but ignoring maternal citizenship, which just can’t be given credence in the current social setting).
February 5, 2016 at 6:38 pm
Pete in NC
This is a tedious read, but it is a Supreme Court analysis. The main topic isn’t NBC, but go on a ways and you see the definitions of NBC, Native, and Naturalized Citizen (MINOR v. HAPPERSETT)
If you thought that one was long, this will really take time, but has the same definitions, with MUCH background and discussion (U.S. v. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U.S. 649 (1898))
Short form, both parents US citizens = NBC, no matter where born. One parent US citizen, born out of country, citizen (not NBC) but may have other obligations. Born in USA, regardless of nationality of parents = US citizen IF AND ONLY IF parents not foreign diplomats OR hostile invaders. At least that’s how I read it.
And no, BHO is not a NBC, as his dad was a foreign subject. The frufru over McCain’s status was a smokescreen, his NBC status was never in doubt. Of course, this may enable Cruz to serve, since even with Media support I don’t think even the Democrats could pull off that level of hypocrisy. OTOH…
February 5, 2016 at 12:01 pm
B Woodman
Referring to The Bern!, “Communist loser who’s lived off others his entire life”.
Sounds like a pale modern day remake of the life story of Karl Marx.
‘Nuff said.
February 5, 2016 at 1:09 pm
interventor
Even Karl worked a bit. His reporting on the Crimean War was banned in the USSR.
February 5, 2016 at 6:14 pm
Pat
even so late after the fact?
February 5, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Oliver Heaviside
Our current collection of candidates does make me want to apologize to all my overseas friends….
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Which Cuban? Principles or gangmember?
Spin
And a side of humility
War Damn Eagle
Molon Labe
“gangmember” … the innuendo is a bit harsh, yet the reference fits – nicely played, Spin.
Ditto. Which?
Soup ‘n sammich…mm mm good.
Trump/Cruz ’16
… and the RINOs in the pear tree ….
Aww, Ted’s not THAT loud, Sam, and Trump’s more of a Philly steak and cheese. 🙂
Cubans too Go for $1000 Alex
Answer : $30,000,000,000,000.00
Question?
Seriously, the slate on both sides of this adventure are not inspirational.
It appears George Washington was visionary in his farewell address. Political parties are the bane of decent government.
Chris, I must admire your verbal witticisims of late. You do the English language proud.
Well, I’m drunk tonight.
It’s entirely possible the election will present us with a choice between “Oh, Shit!” and “Hell, No!” so I can understand getting hammered. And I say that as a teetotaler.
So what were you imbibing for medicinal purposes and how are you this morning?
Not really, but I wanted to say that so bad.
Way to go. 🙂
Looking at the choices, I feel like a stiff one or two, and I don’t drink, period, and never did.
(No “moral” issue, just tried it in adolescence and never acquired the taste for it.)
cheers
eon
Chris,you’re even funny in your own comments section.Good one.
Well said.
And I’m proud to be an Amuirican.
Oops – forgot the hyphens.
A-Muir-ican.
why dint i ever think of that? dang!
Maybe a little more Dr. Bombay, as some would say…..
“Calling Dr Bombay, calling Dr Bombay, come right away.”
You must now draw a “Proud to be an A-Muir-ican” poster featuring Sam suggestively draped in the flag.
Sounds like a visit from RedLine to me!
Being one who has walked into the various devil’s dens of political parties and movements and discussed their evils, I do have a choice for this election that I have stated before.
Earlier this week I was discussing the events and the woman said that she liked Trump because of what he said and how he said it. I said that is probably because he really does not have a filter. She said yes, that’s it. Trump may misspeak, and be wrong, but he says what he sees, and, he often is directly on target, or hitting the edge of the target. He can correct himself when he gets more good information. Lefties call that growing, except when a republican or conservative or libertarian does it. I have areas that I disagree with him, but, on the crucial issues of our times, liberty, and survival, he is the person saying what we must do, or at least pointing to where the game is afoot.
I had hoped Bush and Rubio would have been in low single digits of support at this point.
People have been saying that “this” election is the most important election in our history every election for quite a few years.
We finally are at one where the Republic will cease to exist further than the law writer in the white house has taken it so far.
The people who may take power by any means believe that government is the ruler rather than a subject to the people. We only said that communism had to win one election to gain total power. This may be that election, or, it may be the election where the fever breaks and we can cure some of the damage done by the evil of the fever.
In the past I have spoken with rubio and bush. i would not truust them to protect the Republic. I would not trust them to protect the nation nor the Constitution, nor the people and their rights, much less their privileges.
They prepared a menu for us. We reject their menu. Their menu is not the deal.
i support the man who has made a few deals. Donald J Trump.
Remember that the local elections effect your daily lives quite greatly, and those people do pressure the entire political system depending upon who they are. Know who you vote for locally. the more good people put in locally, the better the politcal matrix becomes.
Rubio is…let’s just say, compromised, according to my sources, who know the man.
He is Obama with an R, in every meaningful measure.
I’ll take a hot Cuban with my hearty soup, but not that one.
Trump/Cruz ’16
Cruz/? ’20
Agreed, from damn near everything I’ve been able to see.
He let his mask slip with that “gang of 8” immigration-amnesty push. Before that he was very convincing as a “Reaganesque” – and I loath him all the more because of it.
Woman, go make me a hot Cuban sammich, with a side of hot (s)trump-et soup.
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Given the context, Sam making a “hot Cuban sammich” would entail her, Rubio and Cruz. I don’t think that’s what Chris had in mind!
Ewww. It would never happen. Sam loves and respects Zed.
I’d expect that behavior from Carlos Danger and Bob-on-my-Root Willy.
Donny T would never share a sandwich, let alone any sammich.
Plus who knows what his filling is like or if it is even adequate.
And not those two. They would both be signing like Farinelli when their wives were done with them.
Oops. Didn’t think about it, or mean it that way.
My apologies to Sam. And Zed. (And Chris)
(get yer mind out of the gutter. allow mine to float on by.)
Let’s look at Cruz and Rubio and Article 2.1.5. I’ve read the Constitution, and I’ve read Vattel, and I’ve read the letters between the Founders on the reasons. BOTH parents must be American citizens to make their children Natural Born. The reason was to avoid any division of loyalties. One parent makes them a citizen, both parents make them NBCs. Regardless of place of birth, parental citizenship is the key. The Founders intent was quite clear. Takes a lot of lawyers to screw things up this badly.
Wrong. Read the Constitution!
I have. Read Vattel.
Born inside the borders of the United States on US soil = NBC.
Born outside the borders of the United States with one or more US Citizens as parents= US Citizen.
Born a foreign national, legally immigrate to the USA, take the oath of citizenship= Naturalized Citizen (not natural born).
You have to be born inside the US to be president. This has all been hashed out before….doesn’t anyone recall when Arnold was Governor of Cali and people were pondering him as a presidential candidate? The consensus of legal scholars was that would have taken an amendment to the US Constitution to permit it.
Could be that I’m overlooking it, but I don’t find that definition of Natural Born Citizen in any of the founding documents.
Schwarzenegger was born in Austria to Austrian parents, so whatever “natural born citizen” means, it isn’t him.
The Constitution never defined its terms, so it should be interpreted in the plain meaning of the words in 1787. The most reasonable interpretation of “natural born citizen” is just citizen by birth – whether that is by location or parentage.
http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm
Try that link. I wrote a post back in May of 2011 that I could link to, with links within, that explains my statements above, but I won’t. What I will refer to is yet another quote related to Obama. You’ve heard it, the one about how we can survive this, but not those who would have elected this in the first place. Or words to that effect.
cmblake6 – Vattel is not the Constitution. He might be interesting as a source to help understand what the framers were thinking, but he isn’t some sort of binding authority.
And no matter how “Originalist” one is, there does have to be some evolution of thinking (such as the old writings giving weight to paternal citizenship but ignoring maternal citizenship, which just can’t be given credence in the current social setting).
This is a tedious read, but it is a Supreme Court analysis. The main topic isn’t NBC, but go on a ways and you see the definitions of NBC, Native, and Naturalized Citizen (MINOR v. HAPPERSETT)
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/88/162.html
If you thought that one was long, this will really take time, but has the same definitions, with MUCH background and discussion (U.S. v. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U.S. 649 (1898))
http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/getcase/us/169/649.html
Short form, both parents US citizens = NBC, no matter where born. One parent US citizen, born out of country, citizen (not NBC) but may have other obligations. Born in USA, regardless of nationality of parents = US citizen IF AND ONLY IF parents not foreign diplomats OR hostile invaders. At least that’s how I read it.
And no, BHO is not a NBC, as his dad was a foreign subject. The frufru over McCain’s status was a smokescreen, his NBC status was never in doubt. Of course, this may enable Cruz to serve, since even with Media support I don’t think even the Democrats could pull off that level of hypocrisy. OTOH…
Referring to The Bern!, “Communist loser who’s lived off others his entire life”.
Sounds like a pale modern day remake of the life story of Karl Marx.
‘Nuff said.
Even Karl worked a bit. His reporting on the Crimean War was banned in the USSR.
even so late after the fact?
Our current collection of candidates does make me want to apologize to all my overseas friends….
Nah, even considering the mess we’re in, they still want to be us.
Chris! Ever seen the movie “The Trojan Horse” from 2008? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0883102/ Very interesting.
Neat,I’ll check that.