Relations, not just “Feelings, nothing more than feelings…”
November 23, 2015 at 8:44 am
eon
Progressives have hated Israel for decades because they “feel” that Israel should have been a Soviet satellite from the beginning. Why? A combination of Russian Jews emigrating to the new state plus the Soviet UN GA “yes” vote on the partition of the British Palestine mandate into Jewish and Arab states in 1948. (US- yes vote, also; UK- abstained.)
When Israel cast its lo with the US, after being snubbed by the French, it was “Israel is an oppressor, the Palestinians are the good guys” all the time, from the War of independence right down to the present.
As is usual with the “enlightened” types, one very important thing never entered their consciousness;
The fact that Jews in russia suffered as much or more under Stalin as they did under the Czars. Stalin’s purge of “kulaks” (“rich peasants”) virtually obliterated the Russian middle class, merchants, professional people, etc., and Jews accounted for a hefty percentage of that group.
Also, of the 30 million+ Russians who died during the “Red Famine” created by a combination of Stalin’s “Five Year Programs” and Lysenkoism in the 1920s and 30s, probably at least a fourth were, again, Russian Jews.
It could be argued that between purges and sheer ineptitude idiocy, Stalin killed at least as many Jews in Russia alone as Hitler did deliberately clear across Europe.
Today, Israel’s rapprochement’ with Russia is solely The one and the progressive Dems’ fault, no one else’s. The “enlightened ones” in DC, academia, etc. have chosen to side with the barbarians. Which is the choice they make every time it comes up. It’s just everybody else that has to suffer the consequences.
In Israel’s case, today, it’s a matter of doing business with the Il Duce wannabee that is at least attacking the people who want to destroy Israel (for his own reasons), as opposed to the other would-be Benny the Moose (The One) that wants to help the savages erase Israel from the map.
clear ether
eon
November 23, 2015 at 11:23 am
H_B
The complication there is that Russia is strongly backing and arming Iran, which also wants to erase Israel from the map. I think the situation with Russia is more due to Russia being there, while we essentially aren’t, than anything else.
One summer during my college years, I visited my girlfriend in Iowa. She went with me when I got a aircut. The barber asked me if I had relations in Iowa. My girlfriend piped up, “Only with me.”
November 23, 2015 at 9:48 am
Al T.
Could be that Bibi is looking to colonize; strong symbiotic possibilities.
And the world would have zero and the muzbro (redundant) to thank.
November 23, 2015 at 10:53 am
Spin Drift
The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Bibi is playing a long game here. He is initiating contact with the “New more enlightened Russia (same as the old Russia)” to have an ally in the region if the leftist progs steal the next election, again. If they don’t and we have a Don or Ted at the helm then he quietly rebuffs further advances with the Vladinator.
Spin
I’m with Ted
War Damn Eagle
Molon Labe
November 23, 2015 at 11:49 am
Al T.
That first line is not an interrogative but a declarative.
And don’t forget that the region is the ancestral home to many Jews; the symbiosis I mentioned could bring them home, far from the reaches of the sworn enemy that now surrounds them, and would be a braintrust of knowledge and experience for a new Baltic homeland.
The literal explosion of radical islam will likely forge alliances unthinkable for the last 75 years; The Donald knows that and has said he expects to get along with Pootin, meaning a cautiously pragmatic partnership based on mutual interest, i.e. destruction of the muzbro. We can and should hope and pray that Don AND Ted will be the team that brings such a new world order to fruition, Don to make the deals and Ted to watch the flank.
AT
Trump/Cruz ’16
November 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Spin Drift
I meant the first line as a thought question. Is Bibi really thinking of Vladimir as a “friend.” Also real ancestral home is the Temple Mount.
Back in the day doing a deal with the Donald as a partner was a trump and lump. If things didn’t quite work out you took the lumps and he got out Scot free because it was OPM.
Ovomit, being a combination of Stalinesque socialist and moslem, would of course be anti-Israel. It, having installed a very high percentage of islamist garbage in its regime, incompetent but brothers and sisters in pisslam nonetheless, is therefore certainly going to repel the Jews.
November 23, 2015 at 11:28 am
H_B
I get the contempt and catharsis, but phrasing it that way is going to undermine the point with anyone who doesn’t already agree.
November 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm
Otto Didact
Which parts do you find objectionable, HB? Calling His Imperial Majesty “Ovomit”? Or referring to the alleged “religion of peace” as “pisslam”? I, personally, find them apropos. And as for convincing those who do not agree, the people who would not agree with him are leftists and are not in any wise amenable to reasoned discussion. So far as I can see there is no real down side to his language.
November 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm
Malatrope
I have to agree with Otto. If anything, I would have used stronger language. The threat from these people, actually, demands well beyond the simple use of epithets and insults.
November 23, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RayNAiken
Israel allying with Putin? Be careful…”trust but verify.” If it became Putin’s interest to do so he would invade Israel in a heartbeat. And when Putin does what is the rest of the world going to do about it? Answer: Not a damn thing.
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Now Putin’s having relations with Obama.
Perhaps—but, as they used to say at Ebbets Field, “Whassa battery?”. Translation: “who’s pitching and who’s catching?”.
Given what I know about both principals . . .
Vlad is hachidan in the Kodokan Judo of Japanese Origin, while
Barry is a sissy-boy.
. . . I rather think that Vlad stands upright while Barry’s inspecting his own shoelaces.
I’m inclined to believe EngleBawwy HumpØdink would be more likely found on its knees ….
Hump O Dink…I’ll be using that one if you please.
Well stated Toli….
And the geopolitical relation was one f-ing the other…
Well, Isreal and Russia are talking now.
I guess Israel realized that it needed a strong partner.
*SIGH* Once upon a time…
Relations, not just “Feelings, nothing more than feelings…”
Progressives have hated Israel for decades because they “feel” that Israel should have been a Soviet satellite from the beginning. Why? A combination of Russian Jews emigrating to the new state plus the Soviet UN GA “yes” vote on the partition of the British Palestine mandate into Jewish and Arab states in 1948. (US- yes vote, also; UK- abstained.)
When Israel cast its lo with the US, after being snubbed by the French, it was “Israel is an oppressor, the Palestinians are the good guys” all the time, from the War of independence right down to the present.
As is usual with the “enlightened” types, one very important thing never entered their consciousness;
The fact that Jews in russia suffered as much or more under Stalin as they did under the Czars. Stalin’s purge of “kulaks” (“rich peasants”) virtually obliterated the Russian middle class, merchants, professional people, etc., and Jews accounted for a hefty percentage of that group.
Also, of the 30 million+ Russians who died during the “Red Famine” created by a combination of Stalin’s “Five Year Programs” and Lysenkoism in the 1920s and 30s, probably at least a fourth were, again, Russian Jews.
It could be argued that between purges and sheer
ineptitudeidiocy, Stalin killed at least as many Jews in Russia alone as Hitler did deliberately clear across Europe.Today, Israel’s rapprochement’ with Russia is solely The one and the progressive Dems’ fault, no one else’s. The “enlightened ones” in DC, academia, etc. have chosen to side with the barbarians. Which is the choice they make every time it comes up. It’s just everybody else that has to suffer the consequences.
In Israel’s case, today, it’s a matter of doing business with the Il Duce wannabee that is at least attacking the people who want to destroy Israel (for his own reasons), as opposed to the other would-be Benny the Moose (The One) that wants to help the savages erase Israel from the map.
clear ether
eon
The complication there is that Russia is strongly backing and arming Iran, which also wants to erase Israel from the map. I think the situation with Russia is more due to Russia being there, while we essentially aren’t, than anything else.
Much too true
One summer during my college years, I visited my girlfriend in Iowa. She went with me when I got a aircut. The barber asked me if I had relations in Iowa. My girlfriend piped up, “Only with me.”
Could be that Bibi is looking to colonize; strong symbiotic possibilities.
And the world would have zero and the muzbro (redundant) to thank.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend? Bibi is playing a long game here. He is initiating contact with the “New more enlightened Russia (same as the old Russia)” to have an ally in the region if the leftist progs steal the next election, again. If they don’t and we have a Don or Ted at the helm then he quietly rebuffs further advances with the Vladinator.
Spin
I’m with Ted
War Damn Eagle
Molon Labe
That first line is not an interrogative but a declarative.
And don’t forget that the region is the ancestral home to many Jews; the symbiosis I mentioned could bring them home, far from the reaches of the sworn enemy that now surrounds them, and would be a braintrust of knowledge and experience for a new Baltic homeland.
The literal explosion of radical islam will likely forge alliances unthinkable for the last 75 years; The Donald knows that and has said he expects to get along with Pootin, meaning a cautiously pragmatic partnership based on mutual interest, i.e. destruction of the muzbro. We can and should hope and pray that Don AND Ted will be the team that brings such a new world order to fruition, Don to make the deals and Ted to watch the flank.
AT
Trump/Cruz ’16
I meant the first line as a thought question. Is Bibi really thinking of Vladimir as a “friend.” Also real ancestral home is the Temple Mount.
Back in the day doing a deal with the Donald as a partner was a trump and lump. If things didn’t quite work out you took the lumps and he got out Scot free because it was OPM.
Spin
Ted and Don ’16
Molon Labe
Ovomit, being a combination of Stalinesque socialist and moslem, would of course be anti-Israel. It, having installed a very high percentage of islamist garbage in its regime, incompetent but brothers and sisters in pisslam nonetheless, is therefore certainly going to repel the Jews.
I get the contempt and catharsis, but phrasing it that way is going to undermine the point with anyone who doesn’t already agree.
Which parts do you find objectionable, HB? Calling His Imperial Majesty “Ovomit”? Or referring to the alleged “religion of peace” as “pisslam”? I, personally, find them apropos. And as for convincing those who do not agree, the people who would not agree with him are leftists and are not in any wise amenable to reasoned discussion. So far as I can see there is no real down side to his language.
I have to agree with Otto. If anything, I would have used stronger language. The threat from these people, actually, demands well beyond the simple use of epithets and insults.
Israel allying with Putin? Be careful…”trust but verify.” If it became Putin’s interest to do so he would invade Israel in a heartbeat. And when Putin does what is the rest of the world going to do about it? Answer: Not a damn thing.