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  • December 2, 2015 at 6:03 pm

    Guns don’t kill, prog virus kills.

  • December 2, 2015 at 6:17 pm
    Greg B

    They can “try” to use this.
    F-em.

    • December 3, 2015 at 9:44 am
      rooftop voter

      They WILL use this.

      The question is will we finally have had enough of their crap to stuff it right back in their face.

  • December 2, 2015 at 7:00 pm
    Browncoat

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if you had this panel drawn and filed away (except the layout and characters fit the last few days dialogue), just needing to fill in the location when it happened. A complete and total, ‘not if but when’ scenario. And it won’t be the last time… until the vermin are exterminated.

  • December 2, 2015 at 8:23 pm
    Kafiroon

    ISIS seems quite capable of killing without guns…for One example.

  • December 2, 2015 at 8:40 pm
    Pamela

    Considering it’s San Bernardino, most likely a gang hit against the Social Services people.

    The Progs won’t admit that anything can be used as a weapon.
    If guns didn’t exist, something would be used to kill, maim and destroy.
    So would they try to outlaw socks and bars of soap if that were the common method to kill? Knives, rocks, hot melted wax….
    Get a grip you frelling idgets.

    • December 2, 2015 at 9:43 pm
      Otto Didact

      How many gangs in San B do you know of that are fully integrated male/female? I ask because one of the suspects is female. Also, one of the suspects has a name with a definite ARABIC ring to it. AND finally, how often do gangs in Kali make/use pipe bombs, because the suspects had one.

      • December 3, 2015 at 7:49 am
        eon

        And now the suspects’ NoK are talking about their “Muslim faith”, their (ex-) neighbors are telling police that there was “activity” all night at their home, especially in the garage, with “middle Eastern”-looking men going in and out at all hours, they had “IEDs” (pipe bombs) along with the AR-15s they were using, and so on.

        As a trace evidence tech, I tend to put more confidence in material evidence than eyewitness testimony, but I have this “impression” that Islam has more to do with this than anything else.

        Progressives should note that Islamist terrorists hate Christians and Jews, but they hate “secular progressive” types even worse, because they are considered entirely “ungodly”.

        Which explains the terrorists’ tendency to attack “blue” areas. Especially “gun-free” zones of same.

        clear ether

        eon

      • December 3, 2015 at 7:56 am
        Pamela

        The initial information that was out stated a holiday party was the site of the slaughter. That there were two shooters who got away. No mention of who the suspects might be. Hence my original gang theory.

        As the investigation progresses, more information will come out.

  • December 2, 2015 at 9:49 pm
    KenH

    How about use Janny here as a battering ram for a door until she gets it?

    “Guns kill”
    No, you fracking prog RETARD
    A gun is just a complex machine
    PEOPLE kill
    And evil is not something there’s a quick fix for

    • December 3, 2015 at 7:52 am
      David M

      Not gonna preach but actually there is a quick fix, if only you accept it…

      Unfortunately our culture here in the USA feels there is nothing higher than self, and self fulfillment/actualization/pleasure. Therefore no need for salvation…

      I’m not sure I can see a way out of the sh!t storm headed our way unless our culture wakes the heck up… And fights fire with fire (and pig blood/offal drenched bullets)…

      On the other hand, for our opponents their calling to Jihad is sacred. it is so much bigger than their piddly little dirty lives that they willingly lay them down to be sand in the mortar of the foundation of the palace of the Caliphate…

      And the useful idiot proglodytes (on both sides of the aisle) are simply paving the way for them…

      I miss America…

  • December 2, 2015 at 9:55 pm
    Otto Didact

    The spinning is already going on. Despite the fact that one of the suspects is female and there was a pipe bomb on one of the suspects, the “authorities are already calling this domestic terrorism not international. If it is domestic then Obozo doesn’t have to do anything about ISIS.

    I expect before long we’ll see a Paris-like hit in a shopping mall. The Holiday CHRISTMAS shopping season is well under way. Malls and other large retail outlets are going to be packed until Christmas. Can you imagine the carnage 3 or 4 people with full-auto rifles could wreak in a crowded mall? I hope everyone’s got their shopping done ’cause I suspect it is about to get bloody. Me, I’m gonna avoid malls and suchlike. I’m also gonna continue to carry – concealed until New Year’s Eve and openly thereafter.

    • December 2, 2015 at 10:37 pm
      H_B

      That’s actually a dreadful scenario. A mall is a natural traffic channel by design.

      If such ever does happen, don’t run to an exit. Go into the nearest store, through the back, into the concrete service tunnels, and follow the exit signs from there. If random slaughter is the plan, I’d expect the gunmen to start at one end, with bombs or armed getaway drivers at the far end for when people bunch up trying to get out.

      • December 2, 2015 at 11:19 pm
        hbbill

        H_B

        That’s actually some good advice there amigo.

      • December 3, 2015 at 9:09 pm

        Indeed.

      • December 3, 2015 at 6:09 am
        MasterDiver

        Read Tom Clancy’s “Teeth of the Tiger.” Coordinated strikes by Islamic terrorists (who are smuggled in through Mexico, by the way) against several shopping malls are a major part of the story.

        Clancy was not afraid to call Radical Islam for what it is, and he cast Iran as the major power funding and inspiring it. Makes you think twice about his sudden death, which was never really explained.

      • December 3, 2015 at 10:44 am
        Browncoat

        Loved the part where one of the cousins ran into the sporting goods store and found a real, pigskin football and placed it in the hands of the dying terrorist. Almost as satisfying as the end of ‘Rainbow Six’

        Clancy and Breitbart…

    • December 2, 2015 at 11:22 pm
      CitizenOutkast

      Sad thing is, the way things are, I wouldn’t put it past the cops to start shooting citizens trying to defend themselves instead of going after the terrorists. Too many cops don’t like the idea of citizens carrying.

  • December 2, 2015 at 11:30 pm
    MAJ B Retired

    I’m thinking that the gun control folks are “hiring” these mental cases to promote their agenda…just a theory…but makes you wonder, as these are happening in liberal controlled areas…just a thought?

    • December 2, 2015 at 11:39 pm
      H_B

      “Never attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity.” More likely it’s just that liberal, anti-self-defense areas are just visibly softer targets.

      Remember the Garland Texas art festival where they were going to show mohammed caricatures this year? The attackers got mowed down as soon as they were spotted. I would seriously expect that got picked over on the jihadi forums’ after-action post mortem. It’s not hard to see what areas they’ll have more success in, and which ones less.

  • December 3, 2015 at 12:04 am
    HB

    Humm—-Syed Farook (his brother is also involved in the killings it looks like…)

    A GOVERNMENT Employee—-CHECK!

    “Farook, who also went by his middle name, Raheel, was a business taxes representative for the California State Board of Equalization, according to his LinkedIn profile. He is a 2003 graduate La Sierra High School, and most recently studied finance at California State University Fullerton until 2013.”

    A MUSLIM—-CHECK!

    A man who identified himself as Farook’s father told the Daily News his son worked as a health technician inspecting restaurants and hotels.

    “I haven’t heard anything. He worked in a county office,” Farook’s dad told The News. “He’s married and has a kid. We’re estranged because my wife got the divorce, and they are together. She doesn’t want to see me.”

    Farook said he hasn’t seen his son in some time.

    “He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. He’s Muslim.”

    And lets all laugh when we find out the Weapons and Explosives—-were all government issued to Farook…..cause he might have to defend himself against all those tea party constitutionalists out there!!!

    Hey Obama! —- Suck IT!

    • December 3, 2015 at 2:16 am
      H_B

      What the heck is a “Board of Equalization”? Or do I want to know? That is a seriously Orwellian bureau name.

      • December 3, 2015 at 2:31 am
        HB

        It’s the California version of the IRS for sales and use taxes amongst other duties….my guess is they have guns and other stuff ol Farook got access to…..

      • December 3, 2015 at 1:53 pm
        markm

        I don’t know about CA. Here in Michigan, it’s the property tax assessment bureau. “Equalization” refers to reforms (about 50 years ago, now) of the assessment system, where formerly the assessments had considerably more to do with political influence than with the actual market value of your house or business location. That is, they always set the assessed value under market value, so they couldn’t be sued, but sometimes it was 95% of the actual value and sometimes it was 10%. With all those that were barely paying any taxes, the property tax rates had to be raised to meet local government budget requirements, so those without political pull were paying perhaps double their fair share.

        So the legislature eventually decreed that the assessed values would be “equalized” at 50% of market value, with provisions for taking assessors to court if they outrageously undervalued your neighbor’s place as well as when they overvalued your place.

  • December 3, 2015 at 12:23 am
    J

    Fox.com just issued an alert with that name didn’t have a matching article…

  • December 3, 2015 at 12:54 am
    Spin Drift

    Greetings from China, I show my CCW to the my gracious Chinese hosts. They are amazed at the concept of personal protection. I thne show them the pix of the latest target woth nose shots at 50 feet (45 ACP). That really amazes them. Please understand that these budding capaitalists are afraid tha the gov is going to take the remets of their hard work and risk. Maybe we shoud be more attune to this feeling.

    Spin
    War Damn Eagle
    Molon Labe

  • December 3, 2015 at 12:57 am
    HB
  • December 3, 2015 at 1:27 am
    Crotalus

    Right there with you, Maj. B. I don’t think the Obama Administration is waiting for these slaughters, but is actively engineering them. I believe he intends to declare martial law, suspend elections indefinitely, and make himself Emperor for Life.

    • December 3, 2015 at 2:30 am
      S'aaruuk

      I am definitely NOT a member of the “Tinfoil Hat Brigade” but I can tell you that you aren’t the only one who holds that exact view. All I have to do is look at the ‘evidence’. For the past 7 years the PINO has seemingly done everything he can to provoke the people, worked overtime to fan the flames of racism, has injected race and himself into things and situations he has no authority, constitutional or otherwise to interfere in. He has also made the wrong/worst decision on matters concerning national security….and I seriously doubt that it is NOT UNINTENTIONAL.

      Every time one of these mass shootings happens, he inevitably calls for more gun control, yet the ball-less, gutless GOP establishment REFUSES to ask the very simple question of “How does disarming potential victims make them or the rest of the people, SAFER?” because they’re all scared shitless of being called “RAAAAAAAACIST.” With only one or two exceptions they all thoroughly disgust me.

      Bottom line, I firmly believe he wants to start either a civil war or more likely a race war so as to “justify” declaring martial law. And quite frankly, with the direction and pace things are moving, I deeply fear that by this time next year if not sooner, the shooting will have actually begun.

      However, on a lighter side, since Wade and Sam Elliott are such close look-alikes and seemingly friends…….enjoy this little tidbit I found.

      I hope the image comes thru…..if not try and click on the link.

      [URL=http://s214.photobucket.com/user/Saaruuk/media/Books%20and%20Reading%20Material/Special%20kind%20of%20stupid_zps6r4jw0zd.jpg.html][IMG]http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/Saaruuk/Books%20and%20Reading%20Material/Special%20kind%20of%20stupid_zps6r4jw0zd.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

      • December 3, 2015 at 6:19 am
        MasterDiver

        LOL/ROFLMAO. That one gets saved and will be blasted to every gun control politician and presstitute I can find an address for. (BTW: Your URL got doubled.Just use the first half of the web address, up to “.jpg” and it goes straight to the pic) LOVE IT!

      • December 3, 2015 at 9:14 am
        Unca Walt

        cannot copy it or open it

      • December 3, 2015 at 10:41 am
        B Woodman

        ditto

      • December 3, 2015 at 2:41 pm

        Copy/paste just the last three lines, starting with http, goes straight to the pic of one of my fave dudes.

      • December 3, 2015 at 9:26 am

        Man, I had to check and see if that wasn’t my byline at the top of that little screed…’sbeautiful, s’aaruuk.

    • December 3, 2015 at 9:10 pm

      Ain’t no doubt in my military mind.

  • December 3, 2015 at 2:20 am
    Grape

    Walk softly….and carry.

    I’m too old to fight, too tired to run, but I do shoot straight…….and will.

  • December 3, 2015 at 3:25 am

    Yeah, its getting a little irritating how Jan turns all “trigger-word” collegiate when these issues crop up, even though she’s as much as admitted how Clinton and Barack are the basest opportunists, and solid progs as well. Esp. Since we KNOW Damon has been slipping her injections of Liberty serum every chance he gets. The Farce is way too strong with that one. When is she gonna wise up, Chris? Does a threat to her cubs have to rear it’s ugly head for Jan to get a clue, and go Momma Grizzly for Freedom?

    • December 3, 2015 at 12:22 pm
      RegT

      Speaking of her children, my fear is not shopping malls, but another “Breslin” where hundreds of children were killed, after many were tortured, raped, and otherwise abused. I don’t know whether or not Obama’s handlers are smart enough to know that might make it open season on muslims.

  • December 3, 2015 at 3:58 am
    Spin Drift

    So the Bonnie and Clyde of the Middle East shoot up a Family Services party and then have a running gun battle with SoCal LEO’s. 14 dead 17 injured and it’s the guns fault. Hell will freeze over before the true intent of the perps is allowed to reach the MSM. Best part is B+C did get to repeat history. I hope the LEO’s used bacon lubed ammo.

    Spin
    Aloha Snackbar
    War Damn Eagle
    Molon Labe
    Carry everywhere now, even while taking a crap.

  • December 3, 2015 at 5:17 am
    kadaka

    Zed’s scratched cornea or whatever that is better be healed soon, that patch is covering his shooting eye. We’re not seeing him practice lefty and a covered eye weakens, his “skills” are going south fast. No wonder he switched to the hard liquor!

    • December 3, 2015 at 3:26 pm
      Bob in Houston.

      yup, I wasn’t going to bring that up but there ya go.

  • December 3, 2015 at 8:37 am
    GWB

    Let’s just keep in mind that a lot of the first 48 hours info will be bogus, no matter the source. Don’t let anyone suck you into a comfortable meme. (Yes, some rightward sites have fact issues just like the MSM, though much fewer than in the MSM.)
    Keep your eyes open, your knives sharp, and your powder dry.
    And keep at the truth.

    • December 3, 2015 at 10:53 am
      B Woodman

      This is rapidly devolving to “war to the knife, knife to the hilt”.
      May G-d bless us all.

  • December 3, 2015 at 9:14 am
    NanGee

    Guns don’t kill. Muslims do. Throw out the Muslims. Keep the guns.

  • December 3, 2015 at 9:16 am
    RayLRiv

    Fucking Religion Of Peace.

  • December 3, 2015 at 9:58 am
    OpenTheDoor

    What I do know now that confirms what I suspected, using empirical evidence given in the first report:
    a)The cops/Homeland inSecurity knew ‘who’ a short time after the shooting, many people there saw him come and go, do you really think they found a dark SUV in SoCal that fast without knowing who? “Dark SUV”, the favored transportation of gang boys, yet THAT one was stopped.
    b)The neighbors said they stayed up all night with a garage full of Muslims. Do you think HS was oblivious, in SoCal, really? Never lived there I guess. I put a piece of duct tape over the daylight sensor so I would have electricity in the garage in the day time, lasted about two weeks, before I was reported. Came home one day and Gladys Kravitz was walking, looking up at the roof, busted. This was the early ’70s.
    Early on, they were being overly cautious, do you really think cops would have been so tight lipped if it had been 3 Tea Party conservative suspects?
    HS would have to be completely obtuse to not know that, in the first hours of the report.
    Progs on the blogs blamed ‘whitey’, that was a wrong indicator right there, they never get it right. My dog learns faster.
    Kos, BLM, the only ones missing from the stupid parade was Vox, but then I avoid them like fleas. They could have, Progs have no trouble blaming without evidence, some people do but then, you wouldn’t be a Prog.

  • December 3, 2015 at 10:52 am
    B Woodman

    I must have either the stoopidist gun in the world, or the most well behaved gun in the world. I leave it alone for days on end, or on my table, or in my car, and yet, it has NEVER, EVER gotten up and shot/killed anyone. Blame the gun? I don’t think so.
    And if O’Bozo want’s my gun, then let him come himself. Please don’t send a jack-booted minion. (hehehehehe)

  • December 3, 2015 at 10:57 am
    B Woodman

    Don’t ban guns. Ban jihadists or ban jihadists from owning guns. Can’t tell who’s a jihadist? Well, all jihadists come from muzzies. Therefore. just to be safe, ban all muzzies from owning guns. What? Too much impingement on 2A freedoms? No worse then what O’Bozo proposes in taking away ALL guns from ALL US citizens.

    Oh, and as far as offending muzzies and CAIR? FUCK CAIR!

  • December 3, 2015 at 12:18 pm
    interventor

    Primitives and progressives have the same mindset. Imbue inanimate objects, like guns, with a will and power.

    • December 3, 2015 at 6:03 pm
      B Woodman

      I like that line of thinking. I may have to use it against a Libtard sometime soon.

  • December 3, 2015 at 12:45 pm
    RegT

    I’m also surprised that the PTB haven’t set up a veteran returned from the Sandbox as the supposed perpetrator of a shooting massacre, as in Matt Brackens first novel, Enemies Foreign and Domestic. They have already been declaring that any of them who seek help for PTSD have lost their right to keep and bear firearms, and have tried (unsuccessfully in a couple of cases, thank G-d) to take their guns.

    Come to think of it, here’s their scenario: white veteran with PTSD shoots up a _black_ day care center. That would start a race war and create an Executive Order for confiscation. I hope to hell I’m just being paranoid.

    If you haven’t already read it, get a copy of Neither Predator Nor Prey by Mark Spungin (takes place in Wyoming). http://www.neitherpredatornorprey.com

  • December 3, 2015 at 12:55 pm
    RegT

    Sorry. folks. I just tried that link (should have before posting it), and Mark’s page for his book appears to be gone. This link works: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0615224091?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

  • December 3, 2015 at 1:09 pm
    Arkay

    Vader, reference your comment yesterday about a gift weapon for Mrs. Vader: Do NOT buy a gun for her without her having put her own hands upon it first. Only she can decide if the hand fit is good, the heft is right, and that it feels like an extension of her.

    No offense, but you’re a guy: your hands may like a weapon, but hers may despise it.

    Wrap up a lovely note that says she’s worth a very special trip to the gun store, so that SHE can pick out the weapon that suits her best.

    • December 3, 2015 at 7:04 pm
      Pamela

      In fact, if there is a local range that rents various weapons, take her over and have her shoot whatever trips her fancy.
      She needs to see if her hands, etc can handle the weight and girth of the piece, and that she can easily rack the slide without making owie noises or swearing like a Master Chief or Drill Sargent . Or casting aspersions regarding your parentage while leveling the ole stick eye at you.

  • December 3, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Many good comments so far. I don’t need to say anything that has already been said, you folks have covered it all quite well.

  • December 3, 2015 at 3:02 pm
    NotYetInACamp

    Nice truck.

    On to other things.

    All not Daleks are enemy of the Daleks.
    Exterminate. Exterminate.

    oops

    All not Muslims are enemy of the Muslims.
    Exterminate. Exterminate.

    That’s better.

    There are varied mental viruses that infect people.
    Islam is one very evil and murderous mental virus. Software is involved, so to speak.

    Progressiveness is another evil and dangerous virus.

    Governments under progressive control murdered over 150 million people last century.

    It is what is.

    Obama and Huma Abadin, Hilary’s main assistant, want to flood the USA with more Syrian “refugee” hijrah jihad invaders.
    Obama and frends already took action or inaction to inflame the Middle East and send the Muslims flowing into Europe and the USA on hijrah conquest migration.
    Putin remembers the 450 plus people killed during the school attack by Chechnya Muslims. The Russians have attacked the Chechnya Muslims in Syria where the Chechnya Muslims have been the shock troops effectively leading all of the main offensives of the ISIS attacks. Putin remembers. He had the Russian military pound Chechnya rebel positions into rubble after that murder at the school.

    Conspiracy “nut” time. Warning. Trigger event. Aggression. Micro-agression. 🙂

    Maybe the two jihads murderers were listening to Alex Jones interview Donald trump yesterday and knowing how both are their enemy and how Trump being on infowars.com would cause ripples during yesterdays and today’s news cycles, they struck when the opportunity presented it.
    It has reduced the impact of that interview while giving example to what Trump said in it as well as wrote in books back in 1999 and 2002.

    I told you I was having a free speech wild positing of people’s possible plans moment. Some hit. Some don’t. But we live in a free country and can speculate. Still.

    • December 3, 2015 at 4:55 pm
      Pete in NC

      “All not Muslims are enemy of the Muslims.” It gets worse – all not the right flavor of Muslims are enemy of the right flavor of Muslims. Historically, the Muslim’s worst enemy is another Muslim.
      Putin is an evil man, trying to rebuild the Russian Empire at the expense of folks who have suffered enough under it, but he does love his country, unlike someone I could mention…

      • December 3, 2015 at 5:28 pm
        NotYetInACamp

        You are correct sir.

        I figure that all Muslims consider their brand of muslim the only Muslim and all others are the to be exterminated apostates.
        i was just doing as i was once instructed on long issues, keep it simple, st…. never mind.

        That other guy loves his country, it is just that his country is the worldwide caliphate. Can I still say that here? Can I be jailed or arrested here using French or German law, yet?

        Has Her Merkel (she still needs her ‘stache shaded.) done as Adolph wanted and merged Islam and Germany?

  • December 3, 2015 at 3:30 pm

    I guess she hasn’t evolved into a libertarian just yet.

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