“If you think I need to be saved from myself, I probably need saved from you”
April 3, 2016 at 11:06 pm
S Hooks
re: It is their moral imperative to protect us from our selves.
Brings to mind this quote from C.S. Lewis:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience…” ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
April 3, 2016 at 11:33 pm
NotYetInACamp
Good (and God) does not have an imposed control agenda.
They do.
April 3, 2016 at 11:49 pm
eon
No, their “moral imperative” is to Create A Perfect World- for themselves.
We are viewed as an obstacle to that.
You may have noticed that whenever “progressives” of any stripe attain the absolute power they crave, the massacres begin not long afterward.
Mainly because ultimately, progressivism is about self-indulgence. And one of the things they wish to indulge is the most primitive lusts of the animal side of human nature.
If all they wanted to do was fuck all day and all night, I wouldn’t care. But they also want to constantly be worshiped, and constantly remind everyone else of their superiority. Like a schoolyard bully, they can never be satisfied. They must have more– more worship, more obeisance, more power.
And that inevitably leads to more violence. Inflicted by them upon anyone and everyone they can reach.
Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus would have understood them perfectly. And I suspect most “enlightened” progressives secretly admire him.
In case you’re wondering who in the hell he was, he’s better known to history by his nickname. “Little Boot”.
Or in the classic Latin, “Caligula”.
clear ether
eon
April 4, 2016 at 6:05 am
David M
Very well said.
ObaMao very closely resembles Caligula at times…
April 4, 2016 at 6:12 am
eon
Actually, The One is more like Nero. He is a narcissist who believes he is a god, constantly makes a fool of himself trying to prove it, continually laments that others do not recognize his true greatness, and blames everyone else for his failures.
In The History of Murder Colin Wilson observed that Nero’s biggest shortcoming was his narcissism; as Wilson put it, “he found himself endlessly interesting”. This defines The One precisely.
The question is, which is more dangerous to humanity- “thought leaders” who think they deserve to live on Olympus, or ones who think they are the only ones who deserve to live, at all?
clear ether
eon
April 4, 2016 at 11:03 am
Kafiroon
Good analysis, eon. ” They must have more.” And the results of that are exactly what they are trying for. How many times have we read or heard statements that we should be imprisoned or killed for disagreeing with some special snowflake demand?
April 4, 2016 at 11:24 am
RegT
Unfortunately, fucking all day would include children when progressives are involved. They have been trying to get pedophilia removed from the DSM V – no longer considered as a psychological disorder, but as “normal” (for a progressive, anyway) behavior.
April 4, 2016 at 4:39 am
MasterDiver
“Leave us alone.” That’s all the South wanted, but the do-gooding busybodies had to shove their oars in.
April 4, 2016 at 7:15 am
GWB
If you’re speaking of antebellum, that’s patently not true.
April 4, 2016 at 11:30 am
RegT
That includes Lincoln, who didn’t give a damn about the slaves. He refused to allow control of the south to be taken from the Federal government, along with the tariffs and other income the Federal government had just greatly increased on their sales and exports. His attacks upon those who disagreed with his agenda, his refusal to adhere to habeas corpus, and his refusal to remove his troops from Fort Sumter were what caused the war.
As always, the edicts of government all come at the pointing of a gun. This one killed in the neighborhood of 650,000 Americans and Confederates (they had already voted to leave the “Union”).
April 4, 2016 at 12:44 pm
interventor
As the import of slaves ended nearly 40 years before the War of Northern Aggression, no tariff income. Sending cotton to the English mills, rather than the Yankee mills was the rub. Brits paid better.
April 4, 2016 at 3:53 pm
billf
RegT,and Interventor,yes and yes.The north made all the machine goods and charged what they wanted.But didn’t want to pay the South fair price for agricultural goods.So the South did business with Europe,pissing off the Feds.Hence,we went to guns.
BTW, Chris doesn’t like arguments about the ‘War between the States’…we have to keep this civil….
He doesn’t give a *bleep* about the constitution. He only gives a *bleep* about himself.
April 4, 2016 at 1:16 pm
H_B
If that were true, he would take what is given to him as his just due. There’s an anecdote about Trump where his limousine broke down on the highway. A passing motorist stopped and helped with the engine. Trump took his name…and the next day paid off the man’s home mortgage.
April 3, 2016 at 11:33 pm
NotYetInACamp
Jolly ranchers.
April 4, 2016 at 12:22 am
Jorge_Banner
No government will ever leave us alone till we make ’em.
Trump might improve things over the kenyan pisslim racist commie fagot mulatto but his government won’t leave us alone.
That calls for the elimination of about 80% of current “government” meaning tyranny of the collectivist bureaucracy.
Not happening any time soon.
We are looking at the decay of the country and the West and the derailment of civilization.
Trump might delay the inevitable end. Buy us some time.
The 2nd Amendment was put there to solve this problem but we’re not using it so it won’t. We won’t.
“The 2nd Amendment was put there to solve this problem but we’re not using it so it won’t. We won’t.”
One never knows, someone just might.
April 4, 2016 at 1:01 am
H_B
My view is that we are instead suitably cautious about pulling the chain on that particular calamity. Yes, it would “solve all the problems” after a fashion, but it would come at great cost and, once started, would be very difficult to stop at a given point in time.
Rather, look at those same forefathers who gave us the 2nd Amendment. Despite the “serial abuses” and “outrages” of Parliament, including being fired upon by soldiers, they were very hesitant to light the fuse on rebellion and sought exhaustively to settle matters through legal discourse.
Armed rebellion is still there, and we would absolutely win such an exchange (we’re armed, they’re not). But don’t wish that situation here until there are absolutely no moves left…
I’m reminded of John Dickinson. He advocated rapprochement with Britain, opposed the Declaration of Independence in the Continental Congress, and even refused to sign it when his fellows passed it. …Then he immediately marched to war and fought for the independence he had argued against so strenuously. Don’t give up; it’s not yet time.
Very true, but at what point do we give up on the “legal discourse”? Your statement is very true and clear, but will we have people in positions TO settle this in the courts? Will some lead have to go downrange to awaken them to do what they should have been doing for the last 50 years before it turns into all out rebellion? I say again, there are people in the right places currently who could take care of it with two clicks on their earpieces, but will they? It could be over before the rest of the world even knows it’s occurring.
April 4, 2016 at 1:41 pm
H_B
You give up on legal behavior when you run out of legitimate moves, and not before. Case in point, I’m aware that some people don’t like Trump, but he is on course to receive 1,237 delegate votes for the Republican Convention. However, Republican figures are talking (openly) about stealing the nomination from him through rules changes after the fact, unbinding delegates, et cetera. In response, people are already organizing a multi-day rally for Trump outside the event to let the Convention know they will be held accountable for their own actions. They’re planning for a million+ people in Cleveland in July. Attendees to include Truck Drivers For Trump and Bikers For Trump. (Two very mobile groups of people)
In case you hadn’t heard, there haven’t been any recent “riots” or gauntlets of “protesters” for rally attendees to struggle through. Bikers For Trump have been providing external security at events in Wisconsin. It’s a lot harder to beat up on elderly men and women practicing free-assembly when faced with a scowling wall of military vets wearing road-leather…
April 4, 2016 at 8:57 am
Chris Muir
Behave,Jorge.
April 4, 2016 at 11:32 am
Jorge_Banner
Oh, I’m trying. But I fear the ghost of a Founding Father waiting for me and asking “that was YOUR watch, down there, what did you do, how did you protect what we died to give you? What stinking low life did you allow to put his dirty paws on OUR Republic and why? We gave you a Republic and the ways to protect her. What did YOU do?”
But this is your house so thank you and all the best. Great cartoon.
April 4, 2016 at 1:47 pm
H_B
Go vote. Yes, really.
If you’ve already voted, then make arguments for your position.
Think of it this way: if you pull the chain on armed action too early, you face that ghost of a Founding Father and he says “……you done F****d It Up, didn’t you?”
April 4, 2016 at 11:39 am
RegT
Jorge, “gay mulatto” would be kinder and gentler, but I admit I prefer your description, even if you did cross it off.
And cmblake6 – sorry, but the courts stopped dispensing justice a long, long time ago. Somewhere back around Marbury vs Madison, and it has gotten so bad nowadays that it is almost impossible to get it today. You certainly cannot rely upon them. Sometimes – as with asset forfeiture, eminent domain, and the NDAA, you don’t even get to go to court before you are damaged by .gov.
“Walter Mitty’s Second Amendment” is true, BUT the fact that we still possess our firearms means there is still some protection from even _worse_ treatment from our own government. It understands the Japanese admiral’s (Ishimoto? I can’t recall right now) fear of a gun behind every blade of grass.
April 4, 2016 at 12:53 pm
interventor
Yamamoto
April 4, 2016 at 2:00 pm
H_B
Interventor, where and when were these “arsenic-eating soviet refugees” you saw and mentioned yesterday?
April 4, 2016 at 1:19 am
Calvin
Have to put in my two cents about a new show on Netflix starring our beloved Sam Elliot. It is called “Ranch” and also has Danny Masterson (That 70s Show), Ashton Kutcher (That 70s Show), and Debra Winger (Officer and a Gentlemen). Sam is the owner of a failing 1500 acre Texas ranch with two pretty messed up sons and an ex-wife. The youngest (Kutcher) comes home from a semi-professional football career after getting cut from the Saskatoon whatevers. Both sons are pretty much into very young girls (think high school), drinking, and snarky comments. Winger is refreshing as an independent woman (she owns their favorite bar) who is still attractive after all these years.
It is a comedy, the laughter is annoyingly canned, and do I tell you that Sam appears in his whitey tighties? Maybe not. Still getting the rest of the cast together; the old high school girlfriend, her fiancé, the old bar fly, and the hot neighbor girl (19 years old) who thinks Kutcher is a hero. I hope to see the writing get better.
How is it that tariffs – and the inevitable cost of everything going up – is “leaving us alone”?
April 4, 2016 at 3:21 am
H_B
Because if you have the opportunity to make money in a growing economy again, in your own business and your own way, you can afford higher prices and more – plus not be messed with for government “assistance” of some sort.
April 4, 2016 at 3:32 am
H_B
Note that the alternative is to continue on the spiral of higher regulation and taxation costs in America, encouraging high end companies to relocate elsewhere, while unrestricted immigration lowers local costs only for people who employ illegals – the national economy gets hollowed out from both ends.
Also note that Trump has threatened tariffs, but that’s not the only thing he’s talked about. He’s also campaigned on reducing personal and (especially competition-killing) corporate taxes and slashing bureaucratic regulation costs. The taxes part would require action from Congress. Difficult to do…unless you can say “sure I’d like it if you could slash taxes, but you don’t have to. I’m perfectly willing to reach the same end by raising tariffs and setting off a trade war. America would come out on top in the end, but I’m not sure your rich cross-border-trading donors would benefit from that. So it’s up to you what you want to do. I can go either way…”
April 4, 2016 at 3:50 am
H_B
Oh, and let me add that whether or not tariffs are raised, prices for random nick-nacks are likely to go up. China is in serious risk (due to inefficiency, rampant corruption, rising health and labor costs, misallocation of financial credit, and simply running out of road to kick the can down) of doing a 1990s-Japan style tits-up.
April 4, 2016 at 4:43 am
eclark1849
Trump is the ONLY candidate who has actually threatened to take any action on China besides talking tough. No wonder they, and North Korea, keep defying the rest of the world. They know that no one is going to do anything to stop them and and anyone who tries will be roundly criticized.
April 4, 2016 at 4:45 am
eclark1849
Also, most likely, anyone who doesn’t want them stopped are in on the take.
April 4, 2016 at 12:57 pm
interventor
Hard for one couple to care for 4 parents and 8 grandparents. Results of one child doctrine.
April 4, 2016 at 11:44 am
RegT
H-B, I’m not TouchStoneMT (although I _do_ live in MT), but I’m thinking he is referring to the tariffs being charged to the South for selling their products to the North and as exports to other countries.
Read a little DeLorenzo, it might open your eyes to the nonsense we all were taught back in high school about what a saint and “liberator” Lincoln was made out to be. He wasn’t as bad as FDR, but he wasn’t much better, either. http://mises.org/article.aspx?control=952
April 4, 2016 at 1:51 pm
H_B
I’m…pretty sure he was actually talking about Trump’s suggestion of tariffs to protect American business and the counter argument that tariff-free imports make everyday items cheaper.
April 4, 2016 at 4:07 pm
billf
Wasn’t as bad? Lincoln was the worst president ever! He didn’t get a majority vote,waged war on ourselves ,suspended habeus corpus,arrested the whole Maryland legislature for disagreeing with him.He was responsible for the only war the US has fought on our own soil,killing hundreds of thousands of Americans (including women and children),and setting Southern economy back a hundred years.He was a real war criminal.
April 4, 2016 at 4:03 pm
NotYetInACamp
Tariffs are in the Constitution and were the main source of federal government revenue until income tax was discovered. called unconstitutional, then rediscovered with a constitutional amendment.
That can be a part of nationalism.
It can be a part of negotiating “fair trade” treaties. It can be a part of not losing jobs to countries that have suicide prevention nets on workplaces, and wages that enrich the chosen few only. Our system depends on people working. Tariffs may let the system act alone so that people can work and produce without the wealth shift that controlling laws and open trade creates. There is more, but i write too mch. This topic is not given to easy discussion, and is given to easy misrepresentation and attacks. Hm. many topics are.
April 4, 2016 at 5:50 am
Bill G
Libs in power cannot leave others alone. Correcting deficiencies in the peasantry is what they see as their role in life.
Pull the trigger? We will all lose unless very careful and very lucky, as many outside groups would love to attack us while divided, some of them attacking both sides to insure maximum destruction of this country.
April 4, 2016 at 6:03 am
David M
Destroyed from within or destroyed from without, regardless the end sate is destruction. Not sure how much longer we can allow the internal destruction to progress…
We have two groups that are insistant on imposing their will on the masses, the ultra right and the ultra left. Both want to force us to behave in ways that wont offend them. Example: The left wants to force abortion on us all, while the right wants to force rape victims to give birth to satan’s spawn. I don’t figure that it is either goup’s business what any of us choose to do. The left wants to force me to embrace and love homosexual behavior, while the right wan’t to force me to reject and hate it. Again, it’s neither groups business how I feel or act about and toward such behavior. I’m done with both sides of this argument. I want conservatives and liberals BOTH to leave me the hell alone! I’m ready to be rid of both groups. Can we please export them both to places where they would feel at home, like China and Iran or my favorite destination for them both, Anartica?
I have a question for you. Why do the right -to-lifers (and many others) oppose abortion? Because they don’t think women have the right to murder an unborn? The “choice” types think we should go ahead and murder the unborn if it is convenient for the woman – it is her God-given right after all. Then they are for abortion and for replacing the baby with a Mexican, whom they don’t have to pay to raise to productive age.
What I don’t understand is why the R-T-Ls want to make the exception for the “devil’s spawn” of a rape baby. That baby didn’t choose it’s sperm donor. Why should it have to die because you don’t like it’s father? If no baby shoud be murdered, then why should a rape baby be murdered? It didn’t do the raping.
April 4, 2016 at 9:02 am
billf
Spot on,Dread,.I’m personally pretty conservative,but I don’t think I have the right to tell others how to live.
If we could all just Mind Your Own Business,we wouldn’t need the thousands of agencies and millions of regulations;things would just tske carecof itself.
April 4, 2016 at 9:03 am
billf
oops-take care of themselves.
April 4, 2016 at 11:59 am
RegT
I think a lot of folks are playing – or getting sucked into – the progressive game of “Let’s Change That Definition”. I am conservative, and the “far right” isn’t Nazi (a socialist system on the Left, along with Communism), it is a set of conservative values that adhere to Judeo-Christian moral codes, the belief that the individual should not have to give up his rights for the “general welfare” or “improvement” of the rest of society, and the willingness to separate ourselves from the rest of a country that refuses to honor the Constitution and a decent moral code of ethics. Many of us _true_ conservatives are being likened to the GOPe, which is about as conservative as FDR, and is far from the truth.
I agree with a lot of the libertarian philosophy, but their notion of “open borders” is DEATH to any country – as is being proven in Europe as I type. (There are a couple of other points I don’t go along with, but are not germane to this discussion.)
This practice of taking a word and giving it a meaning that can no longer be agreed upon is one of the MAJOR tools of the Left. They get to re-define it, and they get to cause confusion and dissension in our ranks by doing so, which greatly assists their agenda of controlling all of us. IT HAS GOT TO STOP. We have to stop playing by their rules and their distortions of reality, or we will lose for sure.
The Left is still a minority, but they have taken control of 90% of government and possibly total control of the voting/election process, so their lesser numbers are still able to overwhelm our divided ranks. Conservatives are like a herd of cats, and getting us to work together to defeat and overturn the control exerted by the Left is very difficult, but if it isn’t done, we will perish fighting a law enforcement and possibly even a military which are being operated by the Left.
April 4, 2016 at 12:15 pm
B Woodman
Dread,
I must stick my 2 cents oar into the water here.
I, personally, am against abortion. But at the same time, I am NOT going to tell a rape victim that she must carry to term.
What I AM against, is having Teh Gubberment pick my pockets to give money to an agency that I detest, physically, mentally, morally, spiritually.
At the same time, I realize that no one can legislate morality. So, let others have their abortions, legally, IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT out of their own pockets, NOT mine. And suffer their own consequences.
Dread, you’re describing some tenets of libertarianism, a non-system of what this ‘toon is all about, leaving us the hell alone; essentially invoking the God-given freedom to do as we please as long as we harm or infringe on no one else. But of course then they went and added that upper-case “L”, creating an actual party about as goofy and dangerous as the others (anyone see the Libertarian debate?).
So over time, I’ve come to realize that libertarianism belongs in the same category, albeit for essentially opposite reasons, as true communism. It just can’t and won’t work once real-world people with all their foibles and weaknesses get involved.
So back to Trump, neither left nor right, but for better or worse. Unlikely we will -or can- be left completely alone, but at least he’s not “them”. Maybe that should be his campaign slogan…”Hey, at least I’m not THEM”.
As the latest “critical theory” series of attacks on our heroes fails yet again and recedes into to background expected to rise yet another day, our heroes ride off into their own sunsets to do the positive building and empowering things that good people like us do.
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But that was a good guess, Jan!
Math HARD for left
Remember, these are the imbeciles who came up with that common core nonsense
Geez! That boy can draw girls!!!!
Looks like Sam is on her way to a “Sunday-Night Rodeo!”
As the old saying goes.. Hate to see Sam go, but wow it’s great to watch her leave.
The best kind of womens movement…..
The kind you get get behind!
*can* get, but I like get get too…
Sam looks good coming and going!
We have no rights unless we fight for them.
No progressive will ever leave us alone. It is their moral imperative to protect us from our selves.
“…immoral imperative…”
FIFY.
“If you think I need to be saved from myself, I probably need saved from you”
re: It is their moral imperative to protect us from our selves.
Brings to mind this quote from C.S. Lewis:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience…” ― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)
Good (and God) does not have an imposed control agenda.
They do.
No, their “moral imperative” is to Create A Perfect World- for themselves.
We are viewed as an obstacle to that.
You may have noticed that whenever “progressives” of any stripe attain the absolute power they crave, the massacres begin not long afterward.
Mainly because ultimately, progressivism is about self-indulgence. And one of the things they wish to indulge is the most primitive lusts of the animal side of human nature.
If all they wanted to do was fuck all day and all night, I wouldn’t care. But they also want to constantly be worshiped, and constantly remind everyone else of their superiority. Like a schoolyard bully, they can never be satisfied. They must have more– more worship, more obeisance, more power.
And that inevitably leads to more violence. Inflicted by them upon anyone and everyone they can reach.
Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus would have understood them perfectly. And I suspect most “enlightened” progressives secretly admire him.
In case you’re wondering who in the hell he was, he’s better known to history by his nickname. “Little Boot”.
Or in the classic Latin, “Caligula”.
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eon
Very well said.
ObaMao very closely resembles Caligula at times…
Actually, The One is more like Nero. He is a narcissist who believes he is a god, constantly makes a fool of himself trying to prove it, continually laments that others do not recognize his true greatness, and blames everyone else for his failures.
In The History of Murder Colin Wilson observed that Nero’s biggest shortcoming was his narcissism; as Wilson put it, “he found himself endlessly interesting”. This defines The One precisely.
The question is, which is more dangerous to humanity- “thought leaders” who think they deserve to live on Olympus, or ones who think they are the only ones who deserve to live, at all?
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eon
Good analysis, eon. ” They must have more.” And the results of that are exactly what they are trying for. How many times have we read or heard statements that we should be imprisoned or killed for disagreeing with some special snowflake demand?
Unfortunately, fucking all day would include children when progressives are involved. They have been trying to get pedophilia removed from the DSM V – no longer considered as a psychological disorder, but as “normal” (for a progressive, anyway) behavior.
“Leave us alone.” That’s all the South wanted, but the do-gooding busybodies had to shove their oars in.
If you’re speaking of antebellum, that’s patently not true.
That includes Lincoln, who didn’t give a damn about the slaves. He refused to allow control of the south to be taken from the Federal government, along with the tariffs and other income the Federal government had just greatly increased on their sales and exports. His attacks upon those who disagreed with his agenda, his refusal to adhere to habeas corpus, and his refusal to remove his troops from Fort Sumter were what caused the war.
As always, the edicts of government all come at the pointing of a gun. This one killed in the neighborhood of 650,000 Americans and Confederates (they had already voted to leave the “Union”).
As the import of slaves ended nearly 40 years before the War of Northern Aggression, no tariff income. Sending cotton to the English mills, rather than the Yankee mills was the rub. Brits paid better.
RegT,and Interventor,yes and yes.The north made all the machine goods and charged what they wanted.But didn’t want to pay the South fair price for agricultural goods.So the South did business with Europe,pissing off the Feds.Hence,we went to guns.
BTW, Chris doesn’t like arguments about the ‘War between the States’…we have to keep this civil….
Appearances to the contrary, DT is in fact bringing order to the chaos…wheat from chaff, patriot from pretender, Constitution from Koran.
Win or lose, his candidacy is cathartic, cleansing, and cataclysmic…and that’s a good thing.
And there’s Red in that jumpsuit again, flashbacks to my yoot…if only.
He doesn’t give a *bleep* about the constitution. He only gives a *bleep* about himself.
If that were true, he would take what is given to him as his just due. There’s an anecdote about Trump where his limousine broke down on the highway. A passing motorist stopped and helped with the engine. Trump took his name…and the next day paid off the man’s home mortgage.
Jolly ranchers.
No government will ever leave us alone till we make ’em.
Trump might improve things over the kenyan pisslim racist commie
fagot mulattobut his government won’t leave us alone.That calls for the elimination of about 80% of current “government” meaning tyranny of the collectivist bureaucracy.
Not happening any time soon.
We are looking at the decay of the country and the West and the derailment of civilization.
Trump might delay the inevitable end. Buy us some time.
The 2nd Amendment was put there to solve this problem but we’re not using it so it won’t. We won’t.
“The 2nd Amendment was put there to solve this problem but we’re not using it so it won’t. We won’t.”
One never knows, someone just might.
My view is that we are instead suitably cautious about pulling the chain on that particular calamity. Yes, it would “solve all the problems” after a fashion, but it would come at great cost and, once started, would be very difficult to stop at a given point in time.
Rather, look at those same forefathers who gave us the 2nd Amendment. Despite the “serial abuses” and “outrages” of Parliament, including being fired upon by soldiers, they were very hesitant to light the fuse on rebellion and sought exhaustively to settle matters through legal discourse.
Armed rebellion is still there, and we would absolutely win such an exchange (we’re armed, they’re not). But don’t wish that situation here until there are absolutely no moves left…
I’m reminded of John Dickinson. He advocated rapprochement with Britain, opposed the Declaration of Independence in the Continental Congress, and even refused to sign it when his fellows passed it. …Then he immediately marched to war and fought for the independence he had argued against so strenuously. Don’t give up; it’s not yet time.
Very true, but at what point do we give up on the “legal discourse”? Your statement is very true and clear, but will we have people in positions TO settle this in the courts? Will some lead have to go downrange to awaken them to do what they should have been doing for the last 50 years before it turns into all out rebellion? I say again, there are people in the right places currently who could take care of it with two clicks on their earpieces, but will they? It could be over before the rest of the world even knows it’s occurring.
You give up on legal behavior when you run out of legitimate moves, and not before. Case in point, I’m aware that some people don’t like Trump, but he is on course to receive 1,237 delegate votes for the Republican Convention. However, Republican figures are talking (openly) about stealing the nomination from him through rules changes after the fact, unbinding delegates, et cetera. In response, people are already organizing a multi-day rally for Trump outside the event to let the Convention know they will be held accountable for their own actions. They’re planning for a million+ people in Cleveland in July. Attendees to include Truck Drivers For Trump and Bikers For Trump. (Two very mobile groups of people)
http://www.independentsentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/bikers3.jpg
In case you hadn’t heard, there haven’t been any recent “riots” or gauntlets of “protesters” for rally attendees to struggle through. Bikers For Trump have been providing external security at events in Wisconsin. It’s a lot harder to beat up on elderly men and women practicing free-assembly when faced with a scowling wall of military vets wearing road-leather…
Behave,Jorge.
Oh, I’m trying. But I fear the ghost of a Founding Father waiting for me and asking “that was YOUR watch, down there, what did you do, how did you protect what we died to give you? What stinking low life did you allow to put his dirty paws on OUR Republic and why? We gave you a Republic and the ways to protect her. What did YOU do?”
But this is your house so thank you and all the best. Great cartoon.
Go vote. Yes, really.
If you’ve already voted, then make arguments for your position.
Think of it this way: if you pull the chain on armed action too early, you face that ghost of a Founding Father and he says “……you done F****d It Up, didn’t you?”
Jorge, “gay mulatto” would be kinder and gentler, but I admit I prefer your description, even if you did cross it off.
And cmblake6 – sorry, but the courts stopped dispensing justice a long, long time ago. Somewhere back around Marbury vs Madison, and it has gotten so bad nowadays that it is almost impossible to get it today. You certainly cannot rely upon them. Sometimes – as with asset forfeiture, eminent domain, and the NDAA, you don’t even get to go to court before you are damaged by .gov.
“Walter Mitty’s Second Amendment” is true, BUT the fact that we still possess our firearms means there is still some protection from even _worse_ treatment from our own government. It understands the Japanese admiral’s (Ishimoto? I can’t recall right now) fear of a gun behind every blade of grass.
Yamamoto
Interventor, where and when were these “arsenic-eating soviet refugees” you saw and mentioned yesterday?
Have to put in my two cents about a new show on Netflix starring our beloved Sam Elliot. It is called “Ranch” and also has Danny Masterson (That 70s Show), Ashton Kutcher (That 70s Show), and Debra Winger (Officer and a Gentlemen). Sam is the owner of a failing 1500 acre Texas ranch with two pretty messed up sons and an ex-wife. The youngest (Kutcher) comes home from a semi-professional football career after getting cut from the Saskatoon whatevers. Both sons are pretty much into very young girls (think high school), drinking, and snarky comments. Winger is refreshing as an independent woman (she owns their favorite bar) who is still attractive after all these years.
It is a comedy, the laughter is annoyingly canned, and do I tell you that Sam appears in his whitey tighties? Maybe not. Still getting the rest of the cast together; the old high school girlfriend, her fiancé, the old bar fly, and the hot neighbor girl (19 years old) who thinks Kutcher is a hero. I hope to see the writing get better.
Change that, Colorado ranch, not Texas ranch.
How is it that tariffs – and the inevitable cost of everything going up – is “leaving us alone”?
Because if you have the opportunity to make money in a growing economy again, in your own business and your own way, you can afford higher prices and more – plus not be messed with for government “assistance” of some sort.
Note that the alternative is to continue on the spiral of higher regulation and taxation costs in America, encouraging high end companies to relocate elsewhere, while unrestricted immigration lowers local costs only for people who employ illegals – the national economy gets hollowed out from both ends.
Also note that Trump has threatened tariffs, but that’s not the only thing he’s talked about. He’s also campaigned on reducing personal and (especially competition-killing) corporate taxes and slashing bureaucratic regulation costs. The taxes part would require action from Congress. Difficult to do…unless you can say “sure I’d like it if you could slash taxes, but you don’t have to. I’m perfectly willing to reach the same end by raising tariffs and setting off a trade war. America would come out on top in the end, but I’m not sure your rich cross-border-trading donors would benefit from that. So it’s up to you what you want to do. I can go either way…”
Oh, and let me add that whether or not tariffs are raised, prices for random nick-nacks are likely to go up. China is in serious risk (due to inefficiency, rampant corruption, rising health and labor costs, misallocation of financial credit, and simply running out of road to kick the can down) of doing a 1990s-Japan style tits-up.
Trump is the ONLY candidate who has actually threatened to take any action on China besides talking tough. No wonder they, and North Korea, keep defying the rest of the world. They know that no one is going to do anything to stop them and and anyone who tries will be roundly criticized.
Also, most likely, anyone who doesn’t want them stopped are in on the take.
Hard for one couple to care for 4 parents and 8 grandparents. Results of one child doctrine.
H-B, I’m not TouchStoneMT (although I _do_ live in MT), but I’m thinking he is referring to the tariffs being charged to the South for selling their products to the North and as exports to other countries.
Read a little DeLorenzo, it might open your eyes to the nonsense we all were taught back in high school about what a saint and “liberator” Lincoln was made out to be. He wasn’t as bad as FDR, but he wasn’t much better, either.
http://mises.org/article.aspx?control=952
I’m…pretty sure he was actually talking about Trump’s suggestion of tariffs to protect American business and the counter argument that tariff-free imports make everyday items cheaper.
Wasn’t as bad? Lincoln was the worst president ever! He didn’t get a majority vote,waged war on ourselves ,suspended habeus corpus,arrested the whole Maryland legislature for disagreeing with him.He was responsible for the only war the US has fought on our own soil,killing hundreds of thousands of Americans (including women and children),and setting Southern economy back a hundred years.He was a real war criminal.
Tariffs are in the Constitution and were the main source of federal government revenue until income tax was discovered. called unconstitutional, then rediscovered with a constitutional amendment.
That can be a part of nationalism.
It can be a part of negotiating “fair trade” treaties. It can be a part of not losing jobs to countries that have suicide prevention nets on workplaces, and wages that enrich the chosen few only. Our system depends on people working. Tariffs may let the system act alone so that people can work and produce without the wealth shift that controlling laws and open trade creates. There is more, but i write too mch. This topic is not given to easy discussion, and is given to easy misrepresentation and attacks. Hm. many topics are.
Libs in power cannot leave others alone. Correcting deficiencies in the peasantry is what they see as their role in life.
Pull the trigger? We will all lose unless very careful and very lucky, as many outside groups would love to attack us while divided, some of them attacking both sides to insure maximum destruction of this country.
Destroyed from within or destroyed from without, regardless the end sate is destruction. Not sure how much longer we can allow the internal destruction to progress…
We have two groups that are insistant on imposing their will on the masses, the ultra right and the ultra left. Both want to force us to behave in ways that wont offend them. Example: The left wants to force abortion on us all, while the right wants to force rape victims to give birth to satan’s spawn. I don’t figure that it is either goup’s business what any of us choose to do. The left wants to force me to embrace and love homosexual behavior, while the right wan’t to force me to reject and hate it. Again, it’s neither groups business how I feel or act about and toward such behavior. I’m done with both sides of this argument. I want conservatives and liberals BOTH to leave me the hell alone! I’m ready to be rid of both groups. Can we please export them both to places where they would feel at home, like China and Iran or my favorite destination for them both, Anartica?
I have a question for you. Why do the right -to-lifers (and many others) oppose abortion? Because they don’t think women have the right to murder an unborn? The “choice” types think we should go ahead and murder the unborn if it is convenient for the woman – it is her God-given right after all. Then they are for abortion and for replacing the baby with a Mexican, whom they don’t have to pay to raise to productive age.
What I don’t understand is why the R-T-Ls want to make the exception for the “devil’s spawn” of a rape baby. That baby didn’t choose it’s sperm donor. Why should it have to die because you don’t like it’s father? If no baby shoud be murdered, then why should a rape baby be murdered? It didn’t do the raping.
Spot on,Dread,.I’m personally pretty conservative,but I don’t think I have the right to tell others how to live.
If we could all just Mind Your Own Business,we wouldn’t need the thousands of agencies and millions of regulations;things would just tske carecof itself.
oops-take care of themselves.
I think a lot of folks are playing – or getting sucked into – the progressive game of “Let’s Change That Definition”. I am conservative, and the “far right” isn’t Nazi (a socialist system on the Left, along with Communism), it is a set of conservative values that adhere to Judeo-Christian moral codes, the belief that the individual should not have to give up his rights for the “general welfare” or “improvement” of the rest of society, and the willingness to separate ourselves from the rest of a country that refuses to honor the Constitution and a decent moral code of ethics. Many of us _true_ conservatives are being likened to the GOPe, which is about as conservative as FDR, and is far from the truth.
I agree with a lot of the libertarian philosophy, but their notion of “open borders” is DEATH to any country – as is being proven in Europe as I type. (There are a couple of other points I don’t go along with, but are not germane to this discussion.)
This practice of taking a word and giving it a meaning that can no longer be agreed upon is one of the MAJOR tools of the Left. They get to re-define it, and they get to cause confusion and dissension in our ranks by doing so, which greatly assists their agenda of controlling all of us. IT HAS GOT TO STOP. We have to stop playing by their rules and their distortions of reality, or we will lose for sure.
The Left is still a minority, but they have taken control of 90% of government and possibly total control of the voting/election process, so their lesser numbers are still able to overwhelm our divided ranks. Conservatives are like a herd of cats, and getting us to work together to defeat and overturn the control exerted by the Left is very difficult, but if it isn’t done, we will perish fighting a law enforcement and possibly even a military which are being operated by the Left.
Dread,
I must stick my 2 cents oar into the water here.
I, personally, am against abortion. But at the same time, I am NOT going to tell a rape victim that she must carry to term.
What I AM against, is having Teh Gubberment pick my pockets to give money to an agency that I detest, physically, mentally, morally, spiritually.
At the same time, I realize that no one can legislate morality. So, let others have their abortions, legally, IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT out of their own pockets, NOT mine. And suffer their own consequences.
Pity the penguins.
Dread, you’re describing some tenets of libertarianism, a non-system of what this ‘toon is all about, leaving us the hell alone; essentially invoking the God-given freedom to do as we please as long as we harm or infringe on no one else. But of course then they went and added that upper-case “L”, creating an actual party about as goofy and dangerous as the others (anyone see the Libertarian debate?).
So over time, I’ve come to realize that libertarianism belongs in the same category, albeit for essentially opposite reasons, as true communism. It just can’t and won’t work once real-world people with all their foibles and weaknesses get involved.
So back to Trump, neither left nor right, but for better or worse. Unlikely we will -or can- be left completely alone, but at least he’s not “them”. Maybe that should be his campaign slogan…”Hey, at least I’m not THEM”.
Already being done:…
https://onthenorthriver.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/trump-lion.jpg
As the latest “critical theory” series of attacks on our heroes fails yet again and recedes into to background expected to rise yet another day, our heroes ride off into their own sunsets to do the positive building and empowering things that good people like us do.
Mr Muir, FYI: https://hotgas.net/2016/04/hot-gas-announces-link-link-program/