Trump was a New York Democrat businessman and celebrity before he decided to go reluctantly into politics. Why does it keep shocking people when his starting positions are often old Democratic talking points?
Why did he choose the Republicans? Look at the Squad and you know the answer.
“I didn’t leave the democrat party…..it left me”…..R. Reagan….and while I’m at it, Ivanka, look pretty and STFU….your dad sometimes has a hard time sorting the bullshit….
> are often old Democratic talking points?
Indeed, what’s unusual about it?
What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.
— Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Every weapon was a military weapon when the Constitution was written. The VP seems to remember: The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.
Everyone could own a fully armed ship of war (Man o’ War) back then. Fully usable for war, diplomacy, trade, travel, etc.
We need our own private Navy. Fully equipped. Well. that would result in more respect for the private citizens. No more of this globalists buying so many off into being traitors by the global designs and free money printed across the world for the globalists (first use before depreciation at least.)
And all of the citizens could have their private arms as God intends.
The US Constitution is only a writing down of some of the rights of Man as given by God.
No, Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinsteein, when you get 51% of the votes in Congress and say ‘America turn in your weapons’, you get the wrath God expects you to get if you actually try it.
The world has been denuded of reasonable private weapons except here and in Switzerland. And the enslavement of the workers of the world continues apace. And they don’t even have to care for them as rulers of old were required to do.
The problem is that arms are so damned expensive to own and operate that most folks cannot afford to own them. That puts owning and operating modern weapons of war out of reach for most folks. Cheap ammo for my FNAR is a buck a round. .223 isn’t just a whole lot cheaper. When you get into the fancy stuff ammo for many/most things is a year’s pay – OR MORE – per round! Even if they repealed the NFA, machine guns and ammo do not come cheap. Most of us out here in flyover country cannot afford to go to the range and shoot off $500 worth of ammo per week.
The only way bigwigs such as POTUS, cabinet level people and Members of Congress have to be worried about close encounters with a lamppost is if their security detail decides to stage it. I’m not saying that a rebellion is impossible today, only that, IMHO, it would be a hellova lot harder today than in the late 18th century.
So all of us are armed like our compatriots in uniform or service.
Security details are the loyal American public, too. One must always be aware of who our natural allies are.
September 9, 2019 at 11:05 am
LowKey
One quibble.
Uncle Sam doesn’t pay as much for a machine gun as we do, the Hughes Amendment pretty much guaranteed inflated prices for civilian “legal” machine guns. Absent that they shouldn’t be more than $1-2K. The machine guns and the ammo fired in training by our military are paid for by us. If they weren’t sucking up so much of OUR money in taxes we’d be able to afford the ammo to practice with a belt fed.
September 9, 2019 at 12:22 pm
Roland Deschain
No disrespect intended, but where are you buying your ammo? A buck a round for .308? .223 not much less?
What a prophet we have in Ayn Rand.
I read Atlas Shrugged once a year to see how America and the world has progressed toward commie social libturdness.
So far, we seem to be digging a deeper hole every year by my view.
Not a good view to have or to hold. However, there it is.
There was a time that each Head of Household was responsible for keeping themselves and their family safe. That each child was taught gun safety and how to shoot. That communities had a constable for lawbreakers and did not relinquish their right to protect their families to anyone. By having the 2nd Amendment WE THE PEOPLE became a Nation that no one would invade. Until now.
Curiously, the gun prohibitionists always make the claim that gun owners can’t take on the U.S. military. They assume that’s who gun owners would be up against. Why would we go after our fellow citizens? It is the politicians who would make the legislation and give the orders to violate the Constitution and our rights. THEY are ones we would go after. Everyone who voted for the intolerable acts and gave the orders would be a target. And the ones who supported them and lobbied them to confiscate the people’s arms? Yep, them too. The politicians would do well to contemplate what we did to the last government officials that tried to confiscate our arms – 245 years ago.
Because those would be the ones we would be facing. Talking to active duty service members has shown me that the vast majority of people serving in the armed have never heard of Oathkeepers (or if they have what they heard was essentially the SPLC’s version) and never considered the possibility that they might actually be given unlawful orders. They have been so indoctrinated to trust the chain of command that it would not occur to them to question their orders. Remember how after Katrina teams of NG troops went around confiscating weapons from N.O. residents. That was clearly an unlawful order but only a couple of teams refused to obey.
Remember, also, that by the end of the revolution more colonists were fighting WITH the redcoats than against them. I cannot help but see parallels between that and a future rebellion. I also cannot help but see at least the possibility of it becoming necessary to at least threaten the families of service members fighting on the side of the government as a way to get them to back off. Recall Col Taffington in “The Patriot” (who, I have read, has a stature in Trafalgar Square) and think about the likelihood of actions such as the burning of that church (which, IIRC, actually happened).
Well, Taffington didn’t exist; he was a composite based on Tarelton. No evidence the church burning ever happened. The movie created that scene to illustrate his reputation based on a few examples of his conduct. In the attempt to arrest a rebel officer, he threated to burn down his house if he didn’t surrender. He was famous for not offering quarter after his horse was shot under him and his men thought he was killed by surrendering rebels. So they killed the surrenders. He didn’t order it but he didn’t necessarily disapprove based on his statements. He definitely didn’t go out of his way to ensure his enemies were treated fairly. While it didn’t happen, it showed perfectly what we thought of him.
September 9, 2019 at 11:40 pm
ExNuke
That sounds a lot like Bill Clinton’s “rules of engagement” in Kosovo.
Well said. Too bad Trump may not realize he has Constitutionalist supporters questioning another 4 yrs.
For those of us who may copy some of Chris’ stuff to the White House email may not what to share this one since POTUS’ staff might look at it as a threat and a reason to Red Flag DBD members. LOL
It is good to recall that in those Colonial times and places it was almost entirely the commoners (witches etc) who were strung up in the square, on the orders of and for the entertainment of the elites of their day.
Can’t help but believe that important fact was in the mind of the framers when they fashioned the Second Amendment, specifically to defend against our own evil government…
NEVER give up your arms, even if it God forbid comes to armed resistance against the armed forces acting on government’s behalf. But I also believe as others have said that if it comes to that many will in fact join our cause with the arms provided by gov…a most poetic if tragic turn of events that I hope never comes to pass.
Most importantly, remember that PDJT throws out a lot of words and very general ideas to see what sticks and what gets shot down…in spite of the bombastic words it is what actually gets done that has to be our focus and our cause. And as to that, has anyone had their guns rights abridged under his admin? No, with the exception of the junk stocks which were discussed yesterday and I am convinced was ultimately for the cause of resistance, not a single one that I am aware of.
Listen to the talk, as it does have a purpose. But act on the walk, which so far at least has been entirely on behalf of us and our interests. We are not just his base but his employers and he does NOT want to hear the words “YOUR’RE FIRED!”
“The argument [that the] two parties should represent opposed ideas and policies, one perhaps of the right and the other of the left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinate and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. The policies that are vital and necessary for America are no longer subjects of significant disagreement, but are disputable only in details of procedure, priority or method.” — Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinon’s mentor
We can certainly make the argument that in the shifts from 1989 thru 2015 Mr. Quigley’s assessment is correct, even from 2016 until now most of what calls itself conservative within gov is anything but. The one factor that (so far) has acted in total disruption of that status quo and resulted in the most vehement and concentrated response to that disruption, is the one who now carries the title of President.
Which begs the question Lyle…can you say with a straight face and any kind of belief and candor that the movement which has as its one and only actual agenda the removal of this disruptive force, that if successful it would entail no “profound and extensive shifts in policy” and methods?
NASCAR has been dead to me since Little Dale came against the Confederate Flag. Next I expect him to come out of the closet. He and KaepScum can be cheerleaders together.
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Politician and bureaucrat realignment kit: tall tree or lamppost, rope, bureaucrat or polotician. Some assembly required.
(damned touchscreen. “politician”)
I dunno, elitists all. 😉
A Fredoian slip? LOL
If the law does not protect me from thee, it also does not protect thee from me.
Is that a quote from someone or are you just awesome? Stealing.
Trump was a New York Democrat businessman and celebrity before he decided to go reluctantly into politics. Why does it keep shocking people when his starting positions are often old Democratic talking points?
Why did he choose the Republicans? Look at the Squad and you know the answer.
“I didn’t leave the democrat party…..it left me”…..R. Reagan….and while I’m at it, Ivanka, look pretty and STFU….your dad sometimes has a hard time sorting the bullshit….
> are often old Democratic talking points?
Indeed, what’s unusual about it?
Every weapon was a military weapon when the Constitution was written. The VP seems to remember: The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.
Everyone could own a fully armed ship of war (Man o’ War) back then. Fully usable for war, diplomacy, trade, travel, etc.
We need our own private Navy. Fully equipped. Well. that would result in more respect for the private citizens. No more of this globalists buying so many off into being traitors by the global designs and free money printed across the world for the globalists (first use before depreciation at least.)
And all of the citizens could have their private arms as God intends.
The US Constitution is only a writing down of some of the rights of Man as given by God.
No, Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinsteein, when you get 51% of the votes in Congress and say ‘America turn in your weapons’, you get the wrath God expects you to get if you actually try it.
The world has been denuded of reasonable private weapons except here and in Switzerland. And the enslavement of the workers of the world continues apace. And they don’t even have to care for them as rulers of old were required to do.
The problem is that arms are so damned expensive to own and operate that most folks cannot afford to own them. That puts owning and operating modern weapons of war out of reach for most folks. Cheap ammo for my FNAR is a buck a round. .223 isn’t just a whole lot cheaper. When you get into the fancy stuff ammo for many/most things is a year’s pay – OR MORE – per round! Even if they repealed the NFA, machine guns and ammo do not come cheap. Most of us out here in flyover country cannot afford to go to the range and shoot off $500 worth of ammo per week.
The only way bigwigs such as POTUS, cabinet level people and Members of Congress have to be worried about close encounters with a lamppost is if their security detail decides to stage it. I’m not saying that a rebellion is impossible today, only that, IMHO, it would be a hellova lot harder today than in the late 18th century.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-02/army-starts-testing-next-generation-squad-weapons-27-month-test
So all of us are armed like our compatriots in uniform or service.
Security details are the loyal American public, too. One must always be aware of who our natural allies are.
One quibble.
Uncle Sam doesn’t pay as much for a machine gun as we do, the Hughes Amendment pretty much guaranteed inflated prices for civilian “legal” machine guns. Absent that they shouldn’t be more than $1-2K. The machine guns and the ammo fired in training by our military are paid for by us. If they weren’t sucking up so much of OUR money in taxes we’d be able to afford the ammo to practice with a belt fed.
No disrespect intended, but where are you buying your ammo? A buck a round for .308? .223 not much less?
Listen to the talk, but watch the walk.
I’d watch Sam walk any day of week.
…when you see that your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you…you may know that your society is doomed. Rand ’57
What a prophet we have in Ayn Rand.
I read Atlas Shrugged once a year to see how America and the world has progressed toward commie social libturdness.
So far, we seem to be digging a deeper hole every year by my view.
Not a good view to have or to hold. However, there it is.
Responsible citizens with guns are our only safety.
There was a time that each Head of Household was responsible for keeping themselves and their family safe. That each child was taught gun safety and how to shoot. That communities had a constable for lawbreakers and did not relinquish their right to protect their families to anyone. By having the 2nd Amendment WE THE PEOPLE became a Nation that no one would invade. Until now.
So?!? You forgot about the lamp posts? tsk tsk
I had a dream… of liberals and special snowflakes being dragged kicking and screaming to the rope.
I like your dream.
…when lampposts are outlawed, only outlaws will have lampposts…
The hemp industry is in fine shape; plenty for everyone. 100-ft of rope is never a bad thing to have in the trunk.
Curiously, the gun prohibitionists always make the claim that gun owners can’t take on the U.S. military. They assume that’s who gun owners would be up against. Why would we go after our fellow citizens? It is the politicians who would make the legislation and give the orders to violate the Constitution and our rights. THEY are ones we would go after. Everyone who voted for the intolerable acts and gave the orders would be a target. And the ones who supported them and lobbied them to confiscate the people’s arms? Yep, them too. The politicians would do well to contemplate what we did to the last government officials that tried to confiscate our arms – 245 years ago.
Because those would be the ones we would be facing. Talking to active duty service members has shown me that the vast majority of people serving in the armed have never heard of Oathkeepers (or if they have what they heard was essentially the SPLC’s version) and never considered the possibility that they might actually be given unlawful orders. They have been so indoctrinated to trust the chain of command that it would not occur to them to question their orders. Remember how after Katrina teams of NG troops went around confiscating weapons from N.O. residents. That was clearly an unlawful order but only a couple of teams refused to obey.
Remember, also, that by the end of the revolution more colonists were fighting WITH the redcoats than against them. I cannot help but see parallels between that and a future rebellion. I also cannot help but see at least the possibility of it becoming necessary to at least threaten the families of service members fighting on the side of the government as a way to get them to back off. Recall Col Taffington in “The Patriot” (who, I have read, has a stature in Trafalgar Square) and think about the likelihood of actions such as the burning of that church (which, IIRC, actually happened).
Well, Taffington didn’t exist; he was a composite based on Tarelton. No evidence the church burning ever happened. The movie created that scene to illustrate his reputation based on a few examples of his conduct. In the attempt to arrest a rebel officer, he threated to burn down his house if he didn’t surrender. He was famous for not offering quarter after his horse was shot under him and his men thought he was killed by surrendering rebels. So they killed the surrenders. He didn’t order it but he didn’t necessarily disapprove based on his statements. He definitely didn’t go out of his way to ensure his enemies were treated fairly. While it didn’t happen, it showed perfectly what we thought of him.
That sounds a lot like Bill Clinton’s “rules of engagement” in Kosovo.
Well said. Too bad Trump may not realize he has Constitutionalist supporters questioning another 4 yrs.
For those of us who may copy some of Chris’ stuff to the White House email may not what to share this one since POTUS’ staff might look at it as a threat and a reason to Red Flag DBD members. LOL
It is good to recall that in those Colonial times and places it was almost entirely the commoners (witches etc) who were strung up in the square, on the orders of and for the entertainment of the elites of their day.
Can’t help but believe that important fact was in the mind of the framers when they fashioned the Second Amendment, specifically to defend against our own evil government…
NEVER give up your arms, even if it God forbid comes to armed resistance against the armed forces acting on government’s behalf. But I also believe as others have said that if it comes to that many will in fact join our cause with the arms provided by gov…a most poetic if tragic turn of events that I hope never comes to pass.
Most importantly, remember that PDJT throws out a lot of words and very general ideas to see what sticks and what gets shot down…in spite of the bombastic words it is what actually gets done that has to be our focus and our cause. And as to that, has anyone had their guns rights abridged under his admin? No, with the exception of the junk stocks which were discussed yesterday and I am convinced was ultimately for the cause of resistance, not a single one that I am aware of.
Listen to the talk, as it does have a purpose. But act on the walk, which so far at least has been entirely on behalf of us and our interests. We are not just his base but his employers and he does NOT want to hear the words “YOUR’RE FIRED!”
So, does it actually appear to move anywhere, or it’s just business as usual, and all those panties were twisted in a bunch for nothing?
“The argument [that the] two parties should represent opposed ideas and policies, one perhaps of the right and the other of the left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinate and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. The policies that are vital and necessary for America are no longer subjects of significant disagreement, but are disputable only in details of procedure, priority or method.” — Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinon’s mentor
We can certainly make the argument that in the shifts from 1989 thru 2015 Mr. Quigley’s assessment is correct, even from 2016 until now most of what calls itself conservative within gov is anything but. The one factor that (so far) has acted in total disruption of that status quo and resulted in the most vehement and concentrated response to that disruption, is the one who now carries the title of President.
Which begs the question Lyle…can you say with a straight face and any kind of belief and candor that the movement which has as its one and only actual agenda the removal of this disruptive force, that if successful it would entail no “profound and extensive shifts in policy” and methods?
I didn’t think so.
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NASCAR has been dead to me since Little Dale came against the Confederate Flag. Next I expect him to come out of the closet. He and KaepScum can be cheerleaders together.
There is nothing “stock” about nascar. Except possibly for having idiots behind the wheel.
Numbskulls are STOCK!
Last time I was in Washington DC I was disappointed by the number of lampposts missing their politician.
And EVERY lamp post should be properly decorated.