I coached tackle football for 9 – 14 year olds, including my son and one daughter. Both daughters complained that it cramped their social lives, as the boys were terrified of me.
Zed can also fall back on “I have a 1911 (or as it appears in the second frame, a Super RedHawk), 40+ acres, and a backhoe, don’t make me use them all in one night.”
One “feature” of the Super Redhawk chambered in .454 Casull, is that on the off chance that you miss, your target will be permanently deaf. DO NOT fire without using hearing protection, preferably ear plugs AND ear muffs.
Too Tall,
And you know this about the hearing protection…….how? Sounds like an interesting tale.
Pull up a chair, let me pour you a drink. We have time……
.454 Casull- hand-held howitzer….got to fire one of those …once.. Once was was enough to satisfy me…
September 26, 2020 at 7:00 am
Too Tall
Lucius knows.
My Ruger Super RedHawk with .454 Casull hard nosed rounds is my preferred Close In Weapon System in bear, boar, or other large wild critter country. The round uses a small Boxer rifle primer in place of a pistol primer, and generates 65,0000 psi and 1900 fps muzzle velocity when fired.
However, you won’t make any friends firing one in an indoor range, Or at an outdoor range without severe social distancing. I’ve never put a sound meter on it, but it is probably 170 dB.
I’ve always been an earplugs AND earmuffs kind of guy when shooting, but I can’t imagine going through 200 rounds of .454 Casull in a single range session the way I have with 5.56 or 7.62 ammo. The headache and ringing in my ears would likely be permanent.
I have not had to fire it at a target in the open without ear protection, but am aware that hearing loss may result. I have been outside, 20 yards behind one being fired wearing earplugs (while changing the batteries in my noise-cancelling ear muffs), and the experience was unforgettable.
The Super RedHawk is dual-chambered for .45 Long Colt. It’s a different weapon with that round, fairly equivalent to a 1911 shooting .45 ACP rounds.
September 26, 2020 at 10:05 am
S'aaruuk
Sounds about like my .475 Wildey Magnum. Depending on the powder I use when reloading, I can have a fairly small muzzle flash and still have full Magnum performance (350gn JHP/1400fps), or the same performance with a fireball that looks like a broadside off a battleship.
Trust me…..at an indoor range it gets EVERYBODY’S attention.
*Evil grin/chuckling maniacally*
September 26, 2020 at 7:52 am
Randy
I so want one but too old and feeble for that hand cannon. Guess I’ll be satisfied with my 45-70 carbine. Good enough to Win-the-West, take out angry bears & dissuade the feral “animals” mobbing our streets today.
September 26, 2020 at 9:15 am
Old Codger
In a book I was reading one of the characters used a Chiappa Rhino. Have any of heard of it? I hadn’t until I looked it up. WOW! Almost TWO HUNDRED YEARS (1835) after Sam Colt first patented his revolver, you wouldn’t think much of anything new in the way of wheel guns could come along. The Chiappa Rhino is just that. The round fires out of the bottom of the cylendar, not the top like every other revolver ever made. It puts the recoil down much lower and thereby reduces muzzle climb. Looks more’n a tad odd, too.
He’s got the automation to force them to walk to the house to pick up their date… if they can get past the dogs it might be a good measure of character. And having to flee several hundred yards under sniper fire might deter the casual interloper.
Jo, the first woman I’ve heard of that can turn a man into a boy just by walking through the room.
September 26, 2020 at 12:33 am
Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman
Yep. That’s going to be one very determined boyfriend to run the gauntlet of Tabasco, The Dawgs, and R200. And all before he undergoes Final Inspection by Zed.
And we all know that Sam is a Weapon of Mass Destruction in the kitchen! (She is a Weapon of Mass Distraction everywhere else.)
September 26, 2020 at 7:05 am
Too Tall
You do realize that Candidate #1 is going to be Karen’s son, as a result of his meeting Sam discussing masks with his mom?
September 26, 2020 at 9:57 am
Paladin
The smart would befriend Zed first. Asking advice/lessons on long range shooting. Maybe saying he is looking at the Marines, Special Forces…wants to be “boots on the ground”. Then accidentally meeting the twins. A Smart man plans… his conquests.
Buddy of mine met one daughter’s first date while field stripping a 1911 at the living room coffee table. The young man said good things about the 1911 and (when given permission) promptly re-assembled it. He wound up a son-in-law. True story.
I wish I could upload a photo Ive seen and saved, Maybe most here have seen it too. It is a outdoor photo of 2 people who have made it half way up a utility pole in a field
with ” Tabasco” just underneath them in a “business” posture. It definitely defines who I think Tabasco is !
For what it is worth. If you are not in a desperate situation, be careful with the opening and closing of the cylinder on revolvers. Timing can be affected.
OT(sorta)Picked up a new (to me) aphorism this past that I thought I’d share. The author of the book I was reading referred to it in the context of war but I think it applies pretty much everywhere. (Note: try as I might, I could not find a source for this. If you have knowledge regarding its provenance, please share.)
To quote Bill Engvall: “You see, my daughter is my life. So before you get any ideas about huggin’ and kissin’ her, just remember this: I got no problem with goin’ back to prison…”
My daughter introduced me to her boyfriends over the years. When I commented on it, she said doing so gave her a certain amount of extra gravity. Whatever works.
Many moons ago, a friend and her beau needed a date for his cousin. He had a thing for red heads. When they showed up, my Dad, a Navy CMDR, looked at my intended date and said “If you get out of hand, and don’t listen, she’ll hurt you. Now enjoy your evening.”
Can’t discuss monster magnums without bringing up the granddaddy most powerful handgun of them all in the world, the nearly useless but oh so cool and badass Smif .500. While the recoil and report of the .454 is massive, they are outright destructive in the .500, on both ends. A few rounds in the strong hands of an experienced shooter is painful enough to shorten the session, while in the hands of a newbie with the encouragement of a fucking idiotic murderous moron, can be and has been deadly. Can you imagine an inexperienced female firing off a round from that monster and losing control so that it spins upward toward her head where inertia and lack of control cause the bang switch to be pulled again, and because the moron had loaded more than one cylinder shoots her fucking head almost clean off? Well you don’t have to imagine, because it happened, and there’s vid somewhere for those who choose to find it.
That Ruger is a monster too, but quite a bit less so than the Smif as to weight, pressure, and all other metrics. But the 454 is a superior firearm for practical use. I sold one of the first ones available to me (they were scarce early on) to a good ol boy who was a first round draft pitcher for the Expos and at this time was making big bucks with the Rockies, he did a lot of mountain goat hunting I guess and if I recall right he got the Ruger in a six-inch and a Marlin Guide Gun lever rifle in the same chambering…I got some feedback from him and he loved and had effectively used them both.
I can’t imagine a similar scenario and review of the 500. But it’s cool, almost as cool and almost as dangerous as our (lovely in her current iteration) friend Jo. Take that as high praise our high criticism as you will. For me I have to say both. Even after all these years I loves me some shootin’ irons and rarely meet one I don’t like TMMV
And bonus for the boyfriend discussion, we talked about 410 shot for non-lethal deterrence, and the 454 Casull chambering doubles (triples including the low and slow 45 Colt) loves shotshells, hurts a lot less for the shootee and shooter alike.
I mis-remembered (again, I oughta be a politician! Not!).
Anyway, looking back to my big-bore sales to Gabe White the pitcher, he definitely wanted the 454 sidearm but in spite of the convenience of ammo sharing, his research led him to the 45-70 for the Guide Gun due to its very substantial superiority of ballistics, and of course that would be his main goat gun.
Inconsequential to some, but accuracy in this crap matters to me. 🙂
Everything has it’s place, including calibres like the .454 and .500
That place just isn’t for immediate personal defence.
True, they’re likely to bring the festivities to a fairly quick halt
That depends a lot on which drugs are in the system of the attacker
There are documented cases of individuals soaking up multiple rounds
of .45, .44 mag, 5.56, 7.72R and even 7.62 NATO and still advancing
If I have to go to a sidearm, I want something I can recover for a second shot
Not getting any younger here and the arthritis doesn’t help
Once upon a time I could rapid fire a Redhawk in .44 from the hip one-handed
Nowadays, I kind of want to keep both hands on a .45 and autos are not fun
You have to assume today that you won’t face a single assailant but a swarm
That’s what vermin do, they swarm, and you’d need to be able to switch targets
You also need to maintain control because the media will crucify you if you miss
Especially if you use anything socially unacceptable like a ‘magnum’
All that said, you go with what you have not what you want
If you spent all your pesos on a flashy thundergun, learn to use it
Maybe download it a little if you have to in order to get a second shot off fast
I’d far rather have a quick second shot for immediate application than try wrestling the bangy end down from pointing at the clouds and go searching for the front sight again 😉
My dad said the largest man he ever saw was SS. He put 8 30-06 rounds from his M-1 Garand in him, and the SS man kept coming. Dad managed to load another clip and put a 9th round in him before he went down. Probably was high on Pervitin aka crystal meth. Dad switched to a BAR after that.
My Dad was big for a Depression kid (6’1″ and 218). When my two sisters were dating, Dad would sit in his chair reading the evening paper. He’d look at them, then go back to the paper. Never said a word. Scared the bejabbers out of those boys anyway.
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Zed’s “rep” will stand him in good stead.
I coached tackle football for 9 – 14 year olds, including my son and one daughter. Both daughters complained that it cramped their social lives, as the boys were terrified of me.
Zed can also fall back on “I have a 1911 (or as it appears in the second frame, a Super RedHawk), 40+ acres, and a backhoe, don’t make me use them all in one night.”
One “feature” of the Super Redhawk chambered in .454 Casull, is that on the off chance that you miss, your target will be permanently deaf. DO NOT fire without using hearing protection, preferably ear plugs AND ear muffs.
Whatever works.
Too Tall,
And you know this about the hearing protection…….how? Sounds like an interesting tale.
Pull up a chair, let me pour you a drink. We have time……
.454 Casull- hand-held howitzer….got to fire one of those …once.. Once was was enough to satisfy me…
Lucius knows.
My Ruger Super RedHawk with .454 Casull hard nosed rounds is my preferred Close In Weapon System in bear, boar, or other large wild critter country. The round uses a small Boxer rifle primer in place of a pistol primer, and generates 65,0000 psi and 1900 fps muzzle velocity when fired.
However, you won’t make any friends firing one in an indoor range, Or at an outdoor range without severe social distancing. I’ve never put a sound meter on it, but it is probably 170 dB.
I’ve always been an earplugs AND earmuffs kind of guy when shooting, but I can’t imagine going through 200 rounds of .454 Casull in a single range session the way I have with 5.56 or 7.62 ammo. The headache and ringing in my ears would likely be permanent.
I have not had to fire it at a target in the open without ear protection, but am aware that hearing loss may result. I have been outside, 20 yards behind one being fired wearing earplugs (while changing the batteries in my noise-cancelling ear muffs), and the experience was unforgettable.
The Super RedHawk is dual-chambered for .45 Long Colt. It’s a different weapon with that round, fairly equivalent to a 1911 shooting .45 ACP rounds.
Sounds about like my .475 Wildey Magnum. Depending on the powder I use when reloading, I can have a fairly small muzzle flash and still have full Magnum performance (350gn JHP/1400fps), or the same performance with a fireball that looks like a broadside off a battleship.
Trust me…..at an indoor range it gets EVERYBODY’S attention.
*Evil grin/chuckling maniacally*
I so want one but too old and feeble for that hand cannon. Guess I’ll be satisfied with my 45-70 carbine. Good enough to Win-the-West, take out angry bears & dissuade the feral “animals” mobbing our streets today.
In a book I was reading one of the characters used a Chiappa Rhino. Have any of heard of it? I hadn’t until I looked it up. WOW! Almost TWO HUNDRED YEARS (1835) after Sam Colt first patented his revolver, you wouldn’t think much of anything new in the way of wheel guns could come along. The Chiappa Rhino is just that. The round fires out of the bottom of the cylendar, not the top like every other revolver ever made. It puts the recoil down much lower and thereby reduces muzzle climb. Looks more’n a tad odd, too.
Read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiappa_Rhino
Are there feral hawgs at the ranch…
Texas has an abundance of wild hogs and such. May not need the backhoe.
.50 Beowulf in an indoor range also garners much attention.
Not gonna lie, I’m a recoil whore..
He’s got the automation to force them to walk to the house to pick up their date… if they can get past the dogs it might be a good measure of character. And having to flee several hundred yards under sniper fire might deter the casual interloper.
Punta Gorda,
You forgot “meet Tabasco.”
Oh. and then there is Jo. As hot as she looks, I am sure she can cool down young man’s ardor.
Jo, the first woman I’ve heard of that can turn a man into a boy just by walking through the room.
Yep. That’s going to be one very determined boyfriend to run the gauntlet of Tabasco, The Dawgs, and R200. And all before he undergoes Final Inspection by Zed.
And even more final inspection by Sam. Zed’s just flicking the revolver cylinder open and closed. Sam’s sharpening a knife.
And we all know that Sam is a Weapon of Mass Destruction in the kitchen! (She is a Weapon of Mass Distraction everywhere else.)
You do realize that Candidate #1 is going to be Karen’s son, as a result of his meeting Sam discussing masks with his mom?
The smart would befriend Zed first. Asking advice/lessons on long range shooting. Maybe saying he is looking at the Marines, Special Forces…wants to be “boots on the ground”. Then accidentally meeting the twins. A Smart man plans… his conquests.
Because, meeting the twins, he will be conquered.
Actually, I am sure the Girls are quite safe on their own; they seem to have plenty of good sense.
Not to mention extensive weapons training by full blown professionals.
Not to mention training in Krav Maga from Naomi.
Zar Belk!
I know I said my girls had no boy problems but I did chase one guy off the property with a shovel. Lol!!
Buddy of mine met one daughter’s first date while field stripping a 1911 at the living room coffee table. The young man said good things about the 1911 and (when given permission) promptly re-assembled it. He wound up a son-in-law. True story.
Wonderful cartoons and brilliant list of sharing options, but the RSS feed link at the bottom of the page doesn’t work.
I wish I could upload a photo Ive seen and saved, Maybe most here have seen it too. It is a outdoor photo of 2 people who have made it half way up a utility pole in a field
with ” Tabasco” just underneath them in a “business” posture. It definitely defines who I think Tabasco is !
I think Zed is smart enough to say what my Dad said: She’s got homework to do this weekend. Have her home by 10PM. Don’t make me come looking for you.
For what it is worth. If you are not in a desperate situation, be careful with the opening and closing of the cylinder on revolvers. Timing can be affected.
OT(sorta)Picked up a new (to me) aphorism this past that I thought I’d share. The author of the book I was reading referred to it in the context of war but I think it applies pretty much everywhere. (Note: try as I might, I could not find a source for this. If you have knowledge regarding its provenance, please share.)
Anyhow, here it is. Let me know wht you think.
Pretty sure I’ve seen that in more than one John Ringo book.
Jerry Pournelle was fond of it too IIRC.
To quote Bill Engvall: “You see, my daughter is my life. So before you get any ideas about huggin’ and kissin’ her, just remember this: I got no problem with goin’ back to prison…”
I’ve got a T-shirt that says: “The older I get, the less ‘life in prison’ is a deterrent”. (Now 70)
My daughter introduced me to her boyfriends over the years. When I commented on it, she said doing so gave her a certain amount of extra gravity. Whatever works.
And here I thought women didn’t like gravity. 😉
Many moons ago, a friend and her beau needed a date for his cousin. He had a thing for red heads. When they showed up, my Dad, a Navy CMDR, looked at my intended date and said “If you get out of hand, and don’t listen, she’ll hurt you. Now enjoy your evening.”
Can’t discuss monster magnums without bringing up the granddaddy most powerful handgun of them all in the world, the nearly useless but oh so cool and badass Smif .500. While the recoil and report of the .454 is massive, they are outright destructive in the .500, on both ends. A few rounds in the strong hands of an experienced shooter is painful enough to shorten the session, while in the hands of a newbie with the encouragement of a fucking idiotic murderous moron, can be and has been deadly. Can you imagine an inexperienced female firing off a round from that monster and losing control so that it spins upward toward her head where inertia and lack of control cause the bang switch to be pulled again, and because the moron had loaded more than one cylinder shoots her fucking head almost clean off? Well you don’t have to imagine, because it happened, and there’s vid somewhere for those who choose to find it.
That Ruger is a monster too, but quite a bit less so than the Smif as to weight, pressure, and all other metrics. But the 454 is a superior firearm for practical use. I sold one of the first ones available to me (they were scarce early on) to a good ol boy who was a first round draft pitcher for the Expos and at this time was making big bucks with the Rockies, he did a lot of mountain goat hunting I guess and if I recall right he got the Ruger in a six-inch and a Marlin Guide Gun lever rifle in the same chambering…I got some feedback from him and he loved and had effectively used them both.
I can’t imagine a similar scenario and review of the 500. But it’s cool, almost as cool and almost as dangerous as our (lovely in her current iteration) friend Jo. Take that as high praise our high criticism as you will. For me I have to say both. Even after all these years I loves me some shootin’ irons and rarely meet one I don’t like TMMV
And bonus for the boyfriend discussion, we talked about 410 shot for non-lethal deterrence, and the 454 Casull chambering doubles (triples including the low and slow 45 Colt) loves shotshells, hurts a lot less for the shootee and shooter alike.
I mis-remembered (again, I oughta be a politician! Not!).
Anyway, looking back to my big-bore sales to Gabe White the pitcher, he definitely wanted the 454 sidearm but in spite of the convenience of ammo sharing, his research led him to the 45-70 for the Guide Gun due to its very substantial superiority of ballistics, and of course that would be his main goat gun.
Inconsequential to some, but accuracy in this crap matters to me. 🙂
Everything has it’s place, including calibres like the .454 and .500
That place just isn’t for immediate personal defence.
True, they’re likely to bring the festivities to a fairly quick halt
That depends a lot on which drugs are in the system of the attacker
There are documented cases of individuals soaking up multiple rounds
of .45, .44 mag, 5.56, 7.72R and even 7.62 NATO and still advancing
If I have to go to a sidearm, I want something I can recover for a second shot
Not getting any younger here and the arthritis doesn’t help
Once upon a time I could rapid fire a Redhawk in .44 from the hip one-handed
Nowadays, I kind of want to keep both hands on a .45 and autos are not fun
You have to assume today that you won’t face a single assailant but a swarm
That’s what vermin do, they swarm, and you’d need to be able to switch targets
You also need to maintain control because the media will crucify you if you miss
Especially if you use anything socially unacceptable like a ‘magnum’
All that said, you go with what you have not what you want
If you spent all your pesos on a flashy thundergun, learn to use it
Maybe download it a little if you have to in order to get a second shot off fast
I’d far rather have a quick second shot for immediate application than try wrestling the bangy end down from pointing at the clouds and go searching for the front sight again 😉
My dad said the largest man he ever saw was SS. He put 8 30-06 rounds from his M-1 Garand in him, and the SS man kept coming. Dad managed to load another clip and put a 9th round in him before he went down. Probably was high on Pervitin aka crystal meth. Dad switched to a BAR after that.
My Dad was big for a Depression kid (6’1″ and 218). When my two sisters were dating, Dad would sit in his chair reading the evening paper. He’d look at them, then go back to the paper. Never said a word. Scared the bejabbers out of those boys anyway.
Don’t forget the Married ones, the single but attached ones, and the alternative lifestyle ones Zed…:D