Based on the “coming out” of all the septugenarians around here yesterday that chronological criteria is a sensitive one. Of course the responses when pushed of these old dawgs of war would likely be a bit different from that of those gnarly old broads.
I do note that The Beast was left out of that cadaver parade, probably because of her well-known and very experienced personal hit crew and her proclivity to use it.
Any platform that would split and/or discourage the Dim vote would be desirable. A platform focusing on Dim election/voter fraud…? An Expose-the-Enemedia platform?
It has now been eighteen years since some people did something. Isn’t it time to admit that “country”, Afghanistan, is too backward and broken for the US to ever fix? So what if we’re negotiating with the Taliban. We deal with many countries with worse human rights records.
But what of our hard-fought gains there? What we have now is an endless bucket chain dumping sand for a flood wall on a flood plain. That river will win as it has for centuries and we’re not prepared to do what is needed for a long-lasting alteration.
They hit us, we hit them back harder. Otherwise we leave them alone and stay the hell out. When the people are ready for freedoms like ours we will know it because they will fight for them like we did. It is time to stop trying to give them what they don’t want enough to get themselves.
Probably the one time in history where we could have gotten away with glassifying the place and the world would have applauded. Missed opportunity there. Now it’s far too late.
Yes. Had our chance and George the Lesser effed it up with attempts to rebuild a society that has torn itself down over and over for centuries. Didn’t take the Russkies nearly this long to quit squandering treasure and warriors in that black hole.
September 11, 2019 at 11:40 am
Halley
Sept. 11, 2001 was the American Left’s golden opportunity to redeem itself. It could chose to support the USA in a righteous war to rid the earth of 7th century religious-fanatic mass murderers on the verge of acquiring WMDs, or it could form a de facto alliance with the 7th century religious-fanatic mass murderers on the verge of acquiring WMDs by making George W. Bush the enemy to be defeated. We all know what they chose, and to me it was the most horrible and unforgivable part of our post-9/11 world.
All true, but could have been rendered moot by PG’s “glassification” solution.
And what was done instead (and largely to mollify that criticism) by Little G was to me the most horrible and unforgivable -and unending- part.
September 12, 2019 at 12:40 am
John M.
So we pave Afghanistan with Trinity Glass. How far West do we bring the glazing job? To the Iranian border? To the Persian Gulf? Do we include Iraq? Syria? Jordan? Saudi Arabia?
September 11, 2019 at 7:52 am
eon
During the Raj, the British Indian Army’s attitude toward Afghanistan was simple.
They didn’t give a damn what the Afridi did to each other in their interminable clan feuds and even all-out tribal wars, as long as they kept it on their side of the border.
But if they ever pulled anything in British India (which included what is now Pakistan), the BIA would cross the border, in force, hunt down the perpetrators, kill them, their families, and their goats, and burn their village(s) to the ground.
The BIA also pointed out to every tribal and clan headman that all their unfriendly neighbors would finger them to the BIA, on the principle of letting it do the heavy lifting in the aforementioned clan feuds and etc.
This policy was the result of early failures in trying to conduct what would later be called “geopolitics” in the region. (It wasn’t called that at the time because the term was only coined by Hitler’s mentor, Gen. Karl Haushofer, around 1919 or so.)
The first time the British made the mistake of trying to “pacify” Afghanistan was in 1839-42. It ended badly for the British;
The retreat was to be the greatest British military disaster until the fall of Singapore, almost exactly a century later (1942).
After that, the British decided that the best they could do was “containment”. In spite of Afghanistan being a major venue for “The Great Game”, the struggle for supremacy in Asia between the British Empire and Tsarist Russia. No, the Soviet invasion in 1980-89 wasn’t “just” a Communist doctrinal line-item, it was simply another act in a drama that had played out for almost two centuries by that time. And was no more successful than any of the previous scripts.
The British were to fight two more wars with the Afridi (1878-80, 1913-19), which were large-scale applications of the “Stay out of British India or else” policy.
I believe that this is the only policy which makes any sense at all in that region. “We don’t care what you do to each other, but cross us and you’re dead”.
Today, we should enforce it with strategic weapons. If they desire martyrdom that much, we should make it easy for them to attain.
They just won’t get to take any infidels with them as slaves for their afterlife. They’ll just arrive in Paradise burnt to a crisp, glowing in the dark, and unable to enjoy the virgins.
Agreed!
A 1000% agreed. They’re sending 59 members of an engineering unit of the Louisiana National Guard to… what?
I love my country and I love our military but we need to GTFO of their.
“The military order Havoc! was a signal given to the English military forces in the Middle Ages to direct the soldiery (in Shakespeare’s parlance ‘the dogs of war’) to pillage and chaos.”
That’s where the squad is headed for. Observe antifa, for example.
Sorry, Chris. Call me picky or nit picking, or whatever other phrase you prefer, but I think the original from Julius Caesar was “Cry havoc and let “slip” the dogs of war.”
Kadaka’s comment should be required reading for policy makers and construction companies when considering any options on the Southwest border. It has a history of flooding and changing over a thousand years. Sometimes it’s U.S. territory, sometimes it’s Mexican territory and most families who live on the border have been conducting cross-border business for generations, without much ado, intermarrying, speaking Tex-Mex or Mex-Tex, and generally getting along aside from the occasional tick on a stray cow, but we have riders for that kind of thing. The wall is nothing more than drama encapsulated in a construction project with millions of dollars at stake for profit-intentioned donor companies. This mass immigration thing, started under Obama, has caused nothing but problems for the folks living in the Rio Grande Valley and considering the region leads the U.S. in a number of categories relating to poverty, not enforcing existing policy has harmed all. Simply put, enforce existing laws more strenuously, cut off aid to Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Mexico and Guatemala until they get their collective heads out of their ….s and quit dumping new Democratic voters on us.
Our failure in Afghanistan is similar to our failures in American cities. We have a collective ignorance of what we need to produce a stable, productive, and just local government. It seems to be the case that in every case, whatever system came to be was not arrived at scientifically but purely on an ad hoc basis.
We now have the scientific method at our disposal. We can match modes of government to the prevailing culture whatever it may be.
Why don’t we?
Starting with places like Detroit and Chicago even reducing the body count would be a start.
Chicago and Afghanistan share a common problem, it’s hard to get the populace to respect the rule of law when their own governments don’t respect their own laws. Both governments are corrupt, members acting for personal gain. Drugs flow freely from one, freely into the other, backed by violence at both ends, with politicians finding someone else to blame.
What’s the scientific method for that? Eliminate politicians until the replacements act properly and the governments function? That’s troubleshooting!
Actually the US Supreme Court removed the stay on the US ‘migra’ rejecting asylum applications not only outside the 9th Circuit’s stayed Arizona and California, but it includes the 99th Circuit.
The case still has to filter up to the U S Supreme Court on the merits. in the meantime a Leftist judge has not stoppeed the entire US Federal government from enforcing the laws.
This really is just what used to be normal occurring. Normal is now unusual, in the leftist Alinsky new world AOC Squad.
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They keep pushing… Them dawgs is comin.
But what if they identify as cats? Big cats. Sabre-tooth sized?
They were run out for promoting chaos too gradually. The squad wants it all at once, with a cherry bomb on top.
Ch ch ch ch Cherry Bomb!
Based on the “coming out” of all the septugenarians around here yesterday that chronological criteria is a sensitive one. Of course the responses when pushed of these old dawgs of war would likely be a bit different from that of those gnarly old broads.
I do note that The Beast was left out of that cadaver parade, probably because of her well-known and very experienced personal hit crew and her proclivity to use it.
All the old dawgs I know are sneaky bastards and could twist those youngins’ in knots 20 ways from Sunday.
I’ve been trying to picture what kind of platform Skye would come up with and suddenly the Squad seems almost respectable.
Any platform that would split and/or discourage the Dim vote would be desirable. A platform focusing on Dim election/voter fraud…? An Expose-the-Enemedia platform?
She admires them because their were fighters…for the wrong cause. Just like Confederate soldiers. That’s not very politically correct.
Freedom , independence, sovereignty…Saying the CSA was fighting for the wrong cause is exactly analogous to saying the Revolutionary War was wrong.
It has now been eighteen years since some people did something. Isn’t it time to admit that “country”, Afghanistan, is too backward and broken for the US to ever fix? So what if we’re negotiating with the Taliban. We deal with many countries with worse human rights records.
But what of our hard-fought gains there? What we have now is an endless bucket chain dumping sand for a flood wall on a flood plain. That river will win as it has for centuries and we’re not prepared to do what is needed for a long-lasting alteration.
They hit us, we hit them back harder. Otherwise we leave them alone and stay the hell out. When the people are ready for freedoms like ours we will know it because they will fight for them like we did. It is time to stop trying to give them what they don’t want enough to get themselves.
Probably the one time in history where we could have gotten away with glassifying the place and the world would have applauded. Missed opportunity there. Now it’s far too late.
Yes. Had our chance and George the Lesser effed it up with attempts to rebuild a society that has torn itself down over and over for centuries. Didn’t take the Russkies nearly this long to quit squandering treasure and warriors in that black hole.
Sept. 11, 2001 was the American Left’s golden opportunity to redeem itself. It could chose to support the USA in a righteous war to rid the earth of 7th century religious-fanatic mass murderers on the verge of acquiring WMDs, or it could form a de facto alliance with the 7th century religious-fanatic mass murderers on the verge of acquiring WMDs by making George W. Bush the enemy to be defeated. We all know what they chose, and to me it was the most horrible and unforgivable part of our post-9/11 world.
All true, but could have been rendered moot by PG’s “glassification” solution.
And what was done instead (and largely to mollify that criticism) by Little G was to me the most horrible and unforgivable -and unending- part.
So we pave Afghanistan with Trinity Glass. How far West do we bring the glazing job? To the Iranian border? To the Persian Gulf? Do we include Iraq? Syria? Jordan? Saudi Arabia?
During the Raj, the British Indian Army’s attitude toward Afghanistan was simple.
They didn’t give a damn what the Afridi did to each other in their interminable clan feuds and even all-out tribal wars, as long as they kept it on their side of the border.
But if they ever pulled anything in British India (which included what is now Pakistan), the BIA would cross the border, in force, hunt down the perpetrators, kill them, their families, and their goats, and burn their village(s) to the ground.
The BIA also pointed out to every tribal and clan headman that all their unfriendly neighbors would finger them to the BIA, on the principle of letting it do the heavy lifting in the aforementioned clan feuds and etc.
This policy was the result of early failures in trying to conduct what would later be called “geopolitics” in the region. (It wasn’t called that at the time because the term was only coined by Hitler’s mentor, Gen. Karl Haushofer, around 1919 or so.)
The first time the British made the mistake of trying to “pacify” Afghanistan was in 1839-42. It ended badly for the British;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Anglo-Afghan_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1842_retreat_from_Kabul
The retreat was to be the greatest British military disaster until the fall of Singapore, almost exactly a century later (1942).
After that, the British decided that the best they could do was “containment”. In spite of Afghanistan being a major venue for “The Great Game”, the struggle for supremacy in Asia between the British Empire and Tsarist Russia. No, the Soviet invasion in 1980-89 wasn’t “just” a Communist doctrinal line-item, it was simply another act in a drama that had played out for almost two centuries by that time. And was no more successful than any of the previous scripts.
The British were to fight two more wars with the Afridi (1878-80, 1913-19), which were large-scale applications of the “Stay out of British India or else” policy.
I believe that this is the only policy which makes any sense at all in that region. “We don’t care what you do to each other, but cross us and you’re dead”.
Today, we should enforce it with strategic weapons. If they desire martyrdom that much, we should make it easy for them to attain.
They just won’t get to take any infidels with them as slaves for their afterlife. They’ll just arrive in Paradise burnt to a crisp, glowing in the dark, and unable to enjoy the virgins.
clear ether
eon
kadaka,
Well articulated and trenchant…
Many thanks!
Agreed!
A 1000% agreed. They’re sending 59 members of an engineering unit of the Louisiana National Guard to… what?
I love my country and I love our military but we need to GTFO of their.
Your last paragraph should be framed and hung beside desk of every decision maker in our government.
“The military order Havoc! was a signal given to the English military forces in the Middle Ages to direct the soldiery (in Shakespeare’s parlance ‘the dogs of war’) to pillage and chaos.”
That’s where the squad is headed for. Observe antifa, for example.
They’re already there!
Medieval war dogs were mostly mastiffs, outfitted with their own suits of armor. Nice breed to have in a fight.
No matter what her handlers put in the bubble, Sam should be smart enough to know that the actual quote is “Cry ‘Havoc’ and let slip the dogs of war”.
I must be getting old. I missed that misquote. I guess I’ll have to watch Olivier’s “Henry V” 29 more times.
JJC
Sorry, Chris. Call me picky or nit picking, or whatever other phrase you prefer, but I think the original from Julius Caesar was “Cry havoc and let “slip” the dogs of war.”
Kadaka’s comment should be required reading for policy makers and construction companies when considering any options on the Southwest border. It has a history of flooding and changing over a thousand years. Sometimes it’s U.S. territory, sometimes it’s Mexican territory and most families who live on the border have been conducting cross-border business for generations, without much ado, intermarrying, speaking Tex-Mex or Mex-Tex, and generally getting along aside from the occasional tick on a stray cow, but we have riders for that kind of thing. The wall is nothing more than drama encapsulated in a construction project with millions of dollars at stake for profit-intentioned donor companies. This mass immigration thing, started under Obama, has caused nothing but problems for the folks living in the Rio Grande Valley and considering the region leads the U.S. in a number of categories relating to poverty, not enforcing existing policy has harmed all. Simply put, enforce existing laws more strenuously, cut off aid to Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Mexico and Guatemala until they get their collective heads out of their ….s and quit dumping new Democratic voters on us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XrYoNbO-78
Speaking of dogs of war.
a classic
Meet the hero service dogs of 9/11
Our failure in Afghanistan is similar to our failures in American cities. We have a collective ignorance of what we need to produce a stable, productive, and just local government. It seems to be the case that in every case, whatever system came to be was not arrived at scientifically but purely on an ad hoc basis.
We now have the scientific method at our disposal. We can match modes of government to the prevailing culture whatever it may be.
Why don’t we?
Starting with places like Detroit and Chicago even reducing the body count would be a start.
Good luck with that. The elites in charge there are perfectly fine with the status quo.
Chicago and Afghanistan share a common problem, it’s hard to get the populace to respect the rule of law when their own governments don’t respect their own laws. Both governments are corrupt, members acting for personal gain. Drugs flow freely from one, freely into the other, backed by violence at both ends, with politicians finding someone else to blame.
What’s the scientific method for that? Eliminate politicians until the replacements act properly and the governments function? That’s troubleshooting!
Hey Zed get this for Sam’s next birthday https://americanguncraft.com/product/diablo-break-open-12-gauge-pistol-black-grips/
Perfect for those new shorty shot shells, 1 3/4″ , IIRC.
NO.
“No license or FFL required, order direct”
“12 Gauge – Conventional 209 Primer Breech Plug Design BP muzzleloader“
And yet despite AOC, the Squad, and the entire Democrat insanity crowd source, the legal wall just went back up.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-overrules-california-judge-grants-asylum-restrictions-southern-border
What will the Squad do now?
Who’da thunk DT could turn the San Fran 9th to Red Pillers?
Another masterpiece from the Artist.
Actually the US Supreme Court removed the stay on the US ‘migra’ rejecting asylum applications not only outside the 9th Circuit’s stayed Arizona and California, but it includes the 99th Circuit.
The case still has to filter up to the U S Supreme Court on the merits. in the meantime a Leftist judge has not stoppeed the entire US Federal government from enforcing the laws.
This really is just what used to be normal occurring. Normal is now unusual, in the leftist Alinsky new world AOC Squad.