Well I guess it’s the gat not the ammo she’s doing the poster-child America Reloaded meme for, think the revolver caught Jan by surprise like it did me.
@PaulS, there’s a reason old Gaston bit it before ever venturing into wheel guns…well there’s actually millions of reasons, but I mean the engineering part.
Still, there is nothing to this day that fits my ham-fist and goes where I point it better than a nickel TT,TH,TS model 19 Smif that was gifted to me by the second in command of the West Palm Beach police (Jamie was later chief) after I did him a favor related to his wildish teen daughter… 🙂
Wheelguns have a definite advantage when the effluent contacts the air handler- – – – -While the guy with the Glock is doing his “Tap- – – -Rack- – – -Bang” jam clearing routine after a dud round, I’ll be pulling the trigger again a few times- – – -BANG BANG BANG! Putting lots of lead downrange is the name of the survival game! A few speed loaders help keep the rate of fire up.
Not a yuge Glock guy, and not that it can’t happen, but in personal experience through maybe 10,000 rounds, I’ve never had a no-go in a G17 using factory FMJ OR in a 38/357 Smif.
So, ROF arguments fall apart when that wheelie with a belt full of speed loaders in 45 is competing with two mags of 17 9’s each.
Wheelguns don’t jam often, but they’re not immune, and once they do, the only clearance drill is usually a New York reload.
That said, I carried wheelguns exclusively until I moved out west, given that standard procedure following a shooting in Chicago at the time, no matter how justified, involved checking for witnesses and getting the F out of there.
Didn’t want to serve time (and serving time would have been a given) with friends and associates of whoever had tried to get me, but got got.
I’ve tried a lot of autos and owned a few but I still prefer revolvers for ‘when it has to work first AND second time,every time’
The IA and stoppage drill for a fully loaded wheelie is ‘pull the trigger again’.
They make 8-shot .357’s that take said clips now, but that 5-shot might be easier for her to keep out of sight until needed and won’t be chucking hot brass where it doesn’t belong.
Well all 1917’s are 45ACP and even though ammo is way up you can still buy it at about .50 rd…not up to the level of that Webley 455 stuff, if I’m going to send a $5 downrange with each pull it’s gonna be BMG!
January 16, 2024 at 12:59 pm
Oldarmourer
Had both, they do make speedloaders for Webleys but they’re kind of scarce.
You can however have the back of the cylinder shaved to take a moon clip of sorts, the only probem being that it won’t headspace properly without one.
January 15, 2024 at 3:55 pm
Bingo
Check the aligment of the shown chambers. I’m pretty sure that’s a six round cylinder, not a five round.
Check the cylinder itself – there isn’t one- I’m pretty sure that’s a cap gun or a starter pistol not an actual weapon.
January 15, 2024 at 12:46 pm
Advo
If I was going to have a magnum revolver, I’d want to get a Colt snake series with a 6 inch barrel. The short barrels don’t extract all the energy out of the round, and the 3 inch Model 13 I used to own had the entire sight picture in a sheet of flame whenever I fired it.
Sad story of where it ended up, but a 4″ heavy-barrel Mo.13 with blue so deep you could swim in it, was the first handgun I bought brand new for myself. At the old-line hardware store where I had my first job, I had just turned 14 in August ’68 and was planning on a new deer rifle in .243 but my manager/hunting buddy reminded me of what we knew was coming about GCA coming so, Smith and Wesson it was. What good advice, I loved it, just a basic, solid, damn near perfect shooter. If I ever run across the POS who got my girl drunk when she and I had separated for a while in ’78 and told her he would keep the gun (which she could handle pretty well and I had let her take to Georgia with her) safe from harm, then refused to return it claiming she did not give it to him…Yes it’s been 45 years (we reunited in ’79) but those old Smifs last forever with minimal care and I know that beeyotch Bobby S. is still alive, so…
Some might say one is better than the other but each suits the need of the operator. It’s also unfortunate that new shooters are self defense orientated. Starting with a bb gun or .22LR is a smart move until the reactive interference is gone. Forget the marketing hype and think on your own. Buy and train what is better for you and compete in the fun games to improve.
Added note: worrying about a boogie man won’t do you any good if you haven’t seen a doctor in years or too stupid to follow his advice.
In my young and more stupid days, I preferred a large bore wheel gun. If I seriously hit something, it was down. If I missed/wounded, I could beat it to death with all that heavy metal.
It’s also hard to get a limp wrist jam with a revolver, and it can be thumb cocked and fired by a semi-disabled guy after getting a hole or two punched in himself. Of course, the bad guy never gets in a lucky hit, right? My wife’s 90+ year old grandmother could cock and fire a single action Ruger .22 revolver from her wheelchair, long after she didn’t have the hand strength to rack a slide or even fire a double action revolver. Home invasions and strongarm robberies were pretty frequent where she lived and died, Cairo Illinois in the 1980s. She ran a boarding house there in the 1930s.
Best thing about a wheelgun is that you don’t have to stop to pick up your brass after you take out the trash.
Wife loved her 2″ M-27. Carried it with her in her Coronado purse and beside her on the seat of her tricked-out ’67 Chevy II when she drove from FL to CT to meet me at my new job-site . . . Good times.
Oddly enough, one of the best ‘instinct shooting’ firearms I ever tried, auto or revolver was a 1990ish S&W ‘Ladysmith’, it shot where I looked every time, I should have bought it, I’d developed a pretty good relationship with the S&W factory rep that came to the range we often used in Fla. but I was in the US at the time and the gov’t rigmarole of importing it was asinine even then, today they’d probably confiscate everything else you owned just for asking.
That was the 5-shot revolver, S&W Autos don’t do much for me.
We had the 5-shot ‘Chiefs Special’ and the 6-shot Colt Cobra in service and I maintained both of them for the MP’s, but didn’t care for either one of them as a shooter, although if I’d had to choose I’d have picked the S&W.
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Reloaded with a wheelie?
Surprising, but I like it!
Looks like it’s SA/DA so no problem. ;-D
I’ve reloaded 357 mag for over 40 years… Nothing better than a couple Smith & Wesson revolvers in your hand.
Similarly for 9mm, but I gravitate to the Glock Revolver 😉 LOL
Well I guess it’s the gat not the ammo she’s doing the poster-child America Reloaded meme for, think the revolver caught Jan by surprise like it did me.
@PaulS, there’s a reason old Gaston bit it before ever venturing into wheel guns…well there’s actually millions of reasons, but I mean the engineering part.
Still, there is nothing to this day that fits my ham-fist and goes where I point it better than a nickel TT,TH,TS model 19 Smif that was gifted to me by the second in command of the West Palm Beach police (Jamie was later chief) after I did him a favor related to his wildish teen daughter… 🙂
Wheelguns have a definite advantage when the effluent contacts the air handler- – – – -While the guy with the Glock is doing his “Tap- – – -Rack- – – -Bang” jam clearing routine after a dud round, I’ll be pulling the trigger again a few times- – – -BANG BANG BANG! Putting lots of lead downrange is the name of the survival game! A few speed loaders help keep the rate of fire up.
Yeah, that happens a lot! (And revolvers NEVER jam!) LOL
Not a yuge Glock guy, and not that it can’t happen, but in personal experience through maybe 10,000 rounds, I’ve never had a no-go in a G17 using factory FMJ OR in a 38/357 Smif.
So, ROF arguments fall apart when that wheelie with a belt full of speed loaders in 45 is competing with two mags of 17 9’s each.
Wheelguns don’t jam often, but they’re not immune, and once they do, the only clearance drill is usually a New York reload.
That said, I carried wheelguns exclusively until I moved out west, given that standard procedure following a shooting in Chicago at the time, no matter how justified, involved checking for witnesses and getting the F out of there.
Didn’t want to serve time (and serving time would have been a given) with friends and associates of whoever had tried to get me, but got got.
I’d take a .45 wheelgun in full moon clips 🙂
I’ve tried a lot of autos and owned a few but I still prefer revolvers for ‘when it has to work first AND second time,every time’
The IA and stoppage drill for a fully loaded wheelie is ‘pull the trigger again’.
They make 8-shot .357’s that take said clips now, but that 5-shot might be easier for her to keep out of sight until needed and won’t be chucking hot brass where it doesn’t belong.
You know… an M1917 S&W revolver in .45 ACP is the only wheelgun I ever really wanted.
Except for maybe a .455 Webley Mk VI…..
Well all 1917’s are 45ACP and even though ammo is way up you can still buy it at about .50 rd…not up to the level of that Webley 455 stuff, if I’m going to send a $5 downrange with each pull it’s gonna be BMG!
Had both, they do make speedloaders for Webleys but they’re kind of scarce.
You can however have the back of the cylinder shaved to take a moon clip of sorts, the only probem being that it won’t headspace properly without one.
Check the aligment of the shown chambers. I’m pretty sure that’s a six round cylinder, not a five round.
Check the cylinder itself – there isn’t one- I’m pretty sure that’s a cap gun or a starter pistol not an actual weapon.
If I was going to have a magnum revolver, I’d want to get a Colt snake series with a 6 inch barrel. The short barrels don’t extract all the energy out of the round, and the 3 inch Model 13 I used to own had the entire sight picture in a sheet of flame whenever I fired it.
Sad story of where it ended up, but a 4″ heavy-barrel Mo.13 with blue so deep you could swim in it, was the first handgun I bought brand new for myself. At the old-line hardware store where I had my first job, I had just turned 14 in August ’68 and was planning on a new deer rifle in .243 but my manager/hunting buddy reminded me of what we knew was coming about GCA coming so, Smith and Wesson it was. What good advice, I loved it, just a basic, solid, damn near perfect shooter. If I ever run across the POS who got my girl drunk when she and I had separated for a while in ’78 and told her he would keep the gun (which she could handle pretty well and I had let her take to Georgia with her) safe from harm, then refused to return it claiming she did not give it to him…Yes it’s been 45 years (we reunited in ’79) but those old Smifs last forever with minimal care and I know that beeyotch Bobby S. is still alive, so…
Some might say one is better than the other but each suits the need of the operator. It’s also unfortunate that new shooters are self defense orientated. Starting with a bb gun or .22LR is a smart move until the reactive interference is gone. Forget the marketing hype and think on your own. Buy and train what is better for you and compete in the fun games to improve.
Added note: worrying about a boogie man won’t do you any good if you haven’t seen a doctor in years or too stupid to follow his advice.
In my young and more stupid days, I preferred a large bore wheel gun. If I seriously hit something, it was down. If I missed/wounded, I could beat it to death with all that heavy metal.
It’s also hard to get a limp wrist jam with a revolver, and it can be thumb cocked and fired by a semi-disabled guy after getting a hole or two punched in himself. Of course, the bad guy never gets in a lucky hit, right? My wife’s 90+ year old grandmother could cock and fire a single action Ruger .22 revolver from her wheelchair, long after she didn’t have the hand strength to rack a slide or even fire a double action revolver. Home invasions and strongarm robberies were pretty frequent where she lived and died, Cairo Illinois in the 1980s. She ran a boarding house there in the 1930s.
Slightly off topic.
TX Police Protecting Human Smuggling by NGOs
https://twitter.com/watchTENETnow/status/1746637592752255362
Time to employ some cocktails…..Molotov cocktails….
Best thing about a wheelgun is that you don’t have to stop to pick up your brass after you take out the trash.
Wife loved her 2″ M-27. Carried it with her in her Coronado purse and beside her on the seat of her tricked-out ’67 Chevy II when she drove from FL to CT to meet me at my new job-site . . . Good times.
Oddly enough, one of the best ‘instinct shooting’ firearms I ever tried, auto or revolver was a 1990ish S&W ‘Ladysmith’, it shot where I looked every time, I should have bought it, I’d developed a pretty good relationship with the S&W factory rep that came to the range we often used in Fla. but I was in the US at the time and the gov’t rigmarole of importing it was asinine even then, today they’d probably confiscate everything else you owned just for asking.
That was the 5-shot revolver, S&W Autos don’t do much for me.
We had the 5-shot ‘Chiefs Special’ and the 6-shot Colt Cobra in service and I maintained both of them for the MP’s, but didn’t care for either one of them as a shooter, although if I’d had to choose I’d have picked the S&W.