Hehehehe. Da bros gonna have an up close and personal wit’ Tobasco. That is, if they can even find and get out to the DD Ranch. Considering some of those ranch acerage, the driveways are more like intercity routes for distance.
And “dude” don’t need a cannon. Dude has a Tobasco, four Dawgs, and a long distance Zed. Who needs more?
Pull up the comfy chair, break out the popcorn and libations.
The Russian Army tried hunting Finnish sniper Simo Hayha with artillery. They kept failing to kill him; he kept succeeding in killing Russian officers.
As he put it, mostly, the artillery told him how much the Russians feared him.
clear ether
eon
August 5, 2020 at 8:20 am
Steve
By the ratio of shots taken to casualties / kills inflicted, sure, snipers rule. But for sheer numbers of casualties / kills, from the 20th century on, you could legitimately conclude that every other branch of the ground forces exists to find targets for the artillery.
August 5, 2020 at 10:28 am
Too Tall
I will always have a warm spot in my heart for Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions (DPICM). And the 16″ naval guns of USS New Jersey hurling 11 “Volkswagens” into the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon was a glorious sight.
Artillery got a head start, and may still lead among ground forces, but I am fairly certain that after World War II, and especially after the atomic bombs, air dropped/fired munitions are in first place for the number of casualties/kills.
August 5, 2020 at 7:56 am
Old Codger
I was thinking much the same thing. An armor piercing .50BMG round can do a right nice imitation of a cannon. Certainly put paid to anything NFAC Austin is likely to possess. I’ve read that MRAPs, while protective of occupants, have their running gear somewhat exposed. I’ve also heard that they have difficulty going over obstacles as big as the diameter of a telephone pole. It would seem to me that all would be needed to stop one would be a telephone pole across the road and a couple of well placed shots to the differentials. If the shots to the running gear were followed up quickly with paintball strikes to the windows, it would appear to completely render the vehicle inoperative and its inhabitants blind.
There is a reason for that statute…
I’d dearly love to know what it is
Did somer lawmaker’s brother-in-law have a paint company or chain of hardware stores with a large stock of purple paint that wasn’t moving ?
The vast majority of the time that you see an inclusion in Acts/Laws/Statutes, someone, somewhere paid to have it included.
That’s why someone should have a line-item-veto over all Bills to ensure nothing irrelevant is slipped in, but if it weren’t for the irrelevant (but profitable) stuff, no Bill would ever be written and no good things would happen…Catch-22.05(b)(iii) subsection A(2)(e) as modified in subsection B(4)(g)
I actually have one. 14-inches long, 1-inch by 10-inch bore. Been in the family for at least 250 years. Was originally a trade boat swivel gun. Loaded with 20 musket balls, it was definitely a street sweeper. It can throw a c-cell battery half a mile using a tea-bag sized black powder charge. Put in a tube of BB shot and it will make a nice Claymore.
Maybe I will get this in after trying several times earlier. As a former battery cdr, I can tell you that Artillery is the KING of battle because they have the balls and will put them where the queen (infantry) wants them. First ting you learn at Ft. Sill.
On a slightly different angle….
Despite what you might think of Mattis now, this is a wonderful quote of his: I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.
August 5, 2020 at 12:18 pm
Steveb919
I just loved that saying.
August 5, 2020 at 7:02 pm
JTC
Famously and no doubt seriously said, but still just a variation of the old (heh) and accurate…”Don’t fuck with the old guy, he won’t argue he will just kill you.”
I have used that tongue in cheek many times over the years…lately the tongue is out of the cheek and the finger is on the trigger. I am so sick of it all, just leave me the fuck alone. And if you don’t…if you don’t I might indeed just have to kill your stupid hard headed lazy evil ass.
August 5, 2020 at 1:57 pm
John
And for some strange reason the US Navy is extremely fond of artillery.
They’re even going for powderless these days.
August 5, 2020 at 4:16 am
Bill G
Louis XIV of France had Ultima Ratio Regum (“last argument of kings”) cast on the cannons of his armies. Meanwhile, I’m wondering if Javier has ever placed a sonic device on one of his drones.
He’s not hitting with every single round, but he’s still doing pretty well. Now, Zed, with beanbag rounds (do they make .50 beanbag rounds?), herding them toward Tabasco………
Both are shotguns. One just has a camo paint job.
Not sure if they’re using buckshot or slugs but I would think they’re probably 3″ shells. He’s catching a lot of recoil.
August 5, 2020 at 7:44 am
PaulS
That’s the perfect case for a belt fed shotgun! 🙂
Only if you can afford a chiropractor and a masseuse on call, 24/7.
Of course, the Mosin-Nagint presents the same issue after a day at the range or in the field. The 7.62×51 mm (Win .308) leaves bruises, the 7.62x54R mm leaves dislocations.
Considering what’s going on in Louisville, BLM now means Black Lives Mafia.
Considering the merger of Antifa and BLM I think the DoJ now has a RICO handle on the “resistance”.
Pamela thinks of all the finishing touches. Willy Peter will make you a believer.
In the event white phosphorous rounds are not available for smoke or marking targets, the 3″ 12 gauge Dragon Fire or Dragon’s Breath shot shells (Magnesium) are an acceptable substitute.
Actually “Dragon’s Breath” shells are not loaded with magnesium. They’re loaded with “Misch Metal”…..basically cigarette lighter flints. I have several boxes of them and took a couple apart to see what made ’em work. Very simply, instead of shot, dump a load of mischmetal into the shot cup (wad) but first drill 3 or so 1/16th in holes in the bottom of the cup to allow the hot gasses from the burning powder to reach the load. That’s what ignites it.
As an experiment, take a flint from either a refill pack or out of an old lighter, hold it with a pair of needle nose pliers, heat it with either a small torch or one of those micro blowtorches used for light soldering or lighting a cigar. When the ‘flint’ starts to glow, toss it on the floor and watch the reaction.
They melt quickly, so be on your toes.
Voila……”Dragon’s Breath”
Thank you, thank you, “The Professor” will be here all week. *Evil chuckle/grin*
Yeah, I’m hoping Zed breaks out his sniper rifle. That would mean more to me because most of us don’t have Tabascos or dawgs. But we do have rifles.
Probably horridus, (Timber or Canebrake) or adamanteus. (Eastern Diamondback). Those are the first rattlesnakes the colonists encountered, and the likely inspiration for the various “Don’t tread on me” rattlesnake flags of the War for Independence, to which my name also refers.
Not having any exposure to pit vipers before they arrived, the first colonists were extremely susceptible to snakebites as well as to poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac, for the same reason. It is also why 90% of the deadliest species of anything are in Australia, because most of the world’s population has not encountered them and has not developed any genetic immunity.
The Timber Rattlesnake is endangered where I live, but there is no shortage of Copperheads (Agkistrodon contortrix) and Cottonmouths (Agkistrodon piscivorous).
I have a fair amount of formal and field education on snakes. I might have survived on one or two of them pickled or fried (and no, they don’t really taste like chicken, without a LOT of seasoning), but I don’t keep them as pets.
Other than sharing a fighting position with them, I’m pretty much live and let live with the non-venomous varieties, as they keep the rodent population down. The venomous ones are designated “hostile” on sight and dealt with appropriately.
Just saw on y-tube some guy blasting away with a 12 ga. loaded with HESH rounds. Be still my pounding heart……………………………..Talent : Hitting a target no one else can hit….. Genius : Hitting a target no one else can see.
Kudos to whomever caught the Panamint rattlesnake. They and the Mojave seem to have perfected the ambush. I understand that it is becoming more common for rattlesnakes not to rattle as their biggest threats are now humans, and not getting stomped by buffalo and other large animals.
Still, I wonder if the Panamint and Mojave ever rattle. They do a better imitation of a Copperhead than the Copperhead.
Locusts are no match for a class of hungry SERE students. You would be amazed at what is edible in the wild and how little of it is left after the students pass through.
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my brother Daryl – and my other brother Daryl……. 🙂
Twin brothers from different mothers.
Tabasco, after goring will do a tap dance on the remains.
Good grief.
Hehehehe. Da bros gonna have an up close and personal wit’ Tobasco. That is, if they can even find and get out to the DD Ranch. Considering some of those ranch acerage, the driveways are more like intercity routes for distance.
And “dude” don’t need a cannon. Dude has a Tobasco, four Dawgs, and a long distance Zed. Who needs more?
Pull up the comfy chair, break out the popcorn and libations.
Artillery may style itself as “King of the Battlefield,” but snipers are more deadly and effective.
The Russian Army tried hunting Finnish sniper Simo Hayha with artillery. They kept failing to kill him; he kept succeeding in killing Russian officers.
As he put it, mostly, the artillery told him how much the Russians feared him.
clear ether
eon
By the ratio of shots taken to casualties / kills inflicted, sure, snipers rule. But for sheer numbers of casualties / kills, from the 20th century on, you could legitimately conclude that every other branch of the ground forces exists to find targets for the artillery.
I will always have a warm spot in my heart for Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions (DPICM). And the 16″ naval guns of USS New Jersey hurling 11 “Volkswagens” into the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon was a glorious sight.
Artillery got a head start, and may still lead among ground forces, but I am fairly certain that after World War II, and especially after the atomic bombs, air dropped/fired munitions are in first place for the number of casualties/kills.
I was thinking much the same thing. An armor piercing .50BMG round can do a right nice imitation of a cannon. Certainly put paid to anything NFAC Austin is likely to possess. I’ve read that MRAPs, while protective of occupants, have their running gear somewhat exposed. I’ve also heard that they have difficulty going over obstacles as big as the diameter of a telephone pole. It would seem to me that all would be needed to stop one would be a telephone pole across the road and a couple of well placed shots to the differentials. If the shots to the running gear were followed up quickly with paintball strikes to the windows, it would appear to completely render the vehicle inoperative and its inhabitants blind.
One assumes that the Double D is marked with purple paint in accordance with Texas Penal Code 30.05?
If so, let the Live Fire Exercises begin.
There is a reason for that statute…
I’d dearly love to know what it is
Did somer lawmaker’s brother-in-law have a paint company or chain of hardware stores with a large stock of purple paint that wasn’t moving ?
The vast majority of the time that you see an inclusion in Acts/Laws/Statutes, someone, somewhere paid to have it included.
That’s why someone should have a line-item-veto over all Bills to ensure nothing irrelevant is slipped in, but if it weren’t for the irrelevant (but profitable) stuff, no Bill would ever be written and no good things would happen…Catch-22.05(b)(iii) subsection A(2)(e) as modified in subsection B(4)(g)
Burning, Looting, and Murdering (BLM) groidtards gonna thug, thug, thug…
Yes! Dude has a cannon. 🙂
So do the dudettes!
I actually have one. 14-inches long, 1-inch by 10-inch bore. Been in the family for at least 250 years. Was originally a trade boat swivel gun. Loaded with 20 musket balls, it was definitely a street sweeper. It can throw a c-cell battery half a mile using a tea-bag sized black powder charge. Put in a tube of BB shot and it will make a nice Claymore.
Zar Belk!
LOL……I like how you think!!
It is Texas, after all.
And it would be Zed playing El Deguello.
Or as heard in one of the Dorsai stories, Tu Madre.
There’s a reason swivel guns were called “Murder Guns”. And they weren’t all pointed outboard of the vessel.
Good lord… I have one of those, too. You can put a penny in a spark plug socket, and pour in lead.
Drive out the projectile with a Phillips screwdriver stuck in the rear hole of the socket.
It will penetrate a 20″ oak tree.
it will make a nice Claymore
Or… a “whiff of grapeshot”?
Hopefully they bring “Xir” as their cheerleader. That thing needs some quality time with Tabasco.
Hmm, is it breeding season for Tabasco? He might conjure that some of the Brothers are right pretty
I think bulls are like stallions and stud dogs – always at “ready”.
Give Sam a number of frozen turkeys.
They do not Have to be on vertical ballistic path.
THIS!
Artillery – King of Battle – always brings a certain decorum to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl.
Actually, that was what the Duke of Wellington said about cavalry;
“The purpose of cavalry upon the battlefield is to lend tone to what would otherwise be merely a vulgar brawl.”
He was not an enthusiast of cavalry. And it must be said that most of his victories were won by infantry firepower backed up by cannon.
cheers
eon
Arty is referred to as the “King of Battle”, for the effect it usually has on the “Queen of Battle”…. the Infantry. But not by consent…
Maybe I will get this in after trying several times earlier. As a former battery cdr, I can tell you that Artillery is the KING of battle because they have the balls and will put them where the queen (infantry) wants them. First ting you learn at Ft. Sill.
“Artillery is the God of War”– Josef Stalin
“Only bring artillery if you intend to kill everybody.”
-U.S.M.C.
cheers
eon
On a slightly different angle….
Despite what you might think of Mattis now, this is a wonderful quote of his:
I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.
I just loved that saying.
Famously and no doubt seriously said, but still just a variation of the old (heh) and accurate…”Don’t fuck with the old guy, he won’t argue he will just kill you.”
I have used that tongue in cheek many times over the years…lately the tongue is out of the cheek and the finger is on the trigger. I am so sick of it all, just leave me the fuck alone. And if you don’t…if you don’t I might indeed just have to kill your stupid hard headed lazy evil ass.
And for some strange reason the US Navy is extremely fond of artillery.
They’re even going for powderless these days.
Louis XIV of France had Ultima Ratio Regum (“last argument of kings”) cast on the cannons of his armies. Meanwhile, I’m wondering if Javier has ever placed a sonic device on one of his drones.
I think this should be how Zed handles it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFSkSwC-eHY
(The action starts a little more than 2 minutes in.)
He’s not hitting with every single round, but he’s still doing pretty well. Now, Zed, with beanbag rounds (do they make .50 beanbag rounds?), herding them toward Tabasco………
BTW, I just noticed he’s not nearly as good a shot with the black rifle. Anybody know what he’s using?
Both are shotguns. One just has a camo paint job.
Not sure if they’re using buckshot or slugs but I would think they’re probably 3″ shells. He’s catching a lot of recoil.
That’s the perfect case for a belt fed shotgun! 🙂
Only if you can afford a chiropractor and a masseuse on call, 24/7.
Of course, the Mosin-Nagint presents the same issue after a day at the range or in the field. The 7.62×51 mm (Win .308) leaves bruises, the 7.62x54R mm leaves dislocations.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gibsmedat
I had to look it up…
“Dude got a cannon?”
Sounds like Zed sent them a picture of the Gonzales Flag.
It is Texas, after all.
And it would be Zed playing El Deguello.
Or as heard in one of the Dorsai stories, Tu Madre.
Dorsai.
First discovered Gordon R. in 1976.
Might be time to reread the Childe Cycle. I still have all those 75 cent paperbacks.
Zed has his Team Angus.
BLM (Burn, Loot, Murder) has their Team Anus.
It’s the Longhorns vs. the Assholes.
Guess who’s gonna get gored?
Don’t Mess With Texas …
Considering what’s going on in Louisville, BLM now means Black Lives Mafia.
Considering the merger of Antifa and BLM I think the DoJ now has a RICO handle on the “resistance”.
Burn, Loot and Murder
So what’s the going rate for bulk ordered body bags…
Will William Peter be coming to the party?
Pamela thinks of all the finishing touches. Willy Peter will make you a believer.
In the event white phosphorous rounds are not available for smoke or marking targets, the 3″ 12 gauge Dragon Fire or Dragon’s Breath shot shells (Magnesium) are an acceptable substitute.
Actually “Dragon’s Breath” shells are not loaded with magnesium. They’re loaded with “Misch Metal”…..basically cigarette lighter flints. I have several boxes of them and took a couple apart to see what made ’em work. Very simply, instead of shot, dump a load of mischmetal into the shot cup (wad) but first drill 3 or so 1/16th in holes in the bottom of the cup to allow the hot gasses from the burning powder to reach the load. That’s what ignites it.
As an experiment, take a flint from either a refill pack or out of an old lighter, hold it with a pair of needle nose pliers, heat it with either a small torch or one of those micro blowtorches used for light soldering or lighting a cigar. When the ‘flint’ starts to glow, toss it on the floor and watch the reaction.
They melt quickly, so be on your toes.
Voila……”Dragon’s Breath”
Thank you, thank you, “The Professor” will be here all week. *Evil chuckle/grin*
OH My GOODNESS! More along the lines of bad blow badness
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/03/media-silent-as-christopher-steele-hero-spymaster-narrative-crumbles/
Yeah, I’m hoping Zed breaks out his sniper rifle. That would mean more to me because most of us don’t have Tabascos or dawgs. But we do have rifles.
Crotalus,
Diamondback, sidewinder, timber, Mojave, Panamint, tiger, rock, prairie, or massasauga? Inquiring minds want to know.
Probably horridus, (Timber or Canebrake) or adamanteus. (Eastern Diamondback). Those are the first rattlesnakes the colonists encountered, and the likely inspiration for the various “Don’t tread on me” rattlesnake flags of the War for Independence, to which my name also refers.
Too Tall, you sound like you know your snakes. I like them all, and currently have a California kingsnake as a pet. You like them too?
Love the reference to the Gadsden flag.
Not having any exposure to pit vipers before they arrived, the first colonists were extremely susceptible to snakebites as well as to poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac, for the same reason. It is also why 90% of the deadliest species of anything are in Australia, because most of the world’s population has not encountered them and has not developed any genetic immunity.
The Timber Rattlesnake is endangered where I live, but there is no shortage of Copperheads (Agkistrodon contortrix) and Cottonmouths (Agkistrodon piscivorous).
I have a fair amount of formal and field education on snakes. I might have survived on one or two of them pickled or fried (and no, they don’t really taste like chicken, without a LOT of seasoning), but I don’t keep them as pets.
Other than sharing a fighting position with them, I’m pretty much live and let live with the non-venomous varieties, as they keep the rodent population down. The venomous ones are designated “hostile” on sight and dealt with appropriately.
Just saw on y-tube some guy blasting away with a 12 ga. loaded with HESH rounds. Be still my pounding heart……………………………..Talent : Hitting a target no one else can hit….. Genius : Hitting a target no one else can see.
Excellent video, inspirational.
I don’t keep venomous snakes as pets, either, but the Kingsnakes are harmless (I presume you know that).
First time I ate rattlesnake was a Panamint Rattlesnake. Fried in butter, it was a very mild, sweet flavor.
Kudos to whomever caught the Panamint rattlesnake. They and the Mojave seem to have perfected the ambush. I understand that it is becoming more common for rattlesnakes not to rattle as their biggest threats are now humans, and not getting stomped by buffalo and other large animals.
Still, I wonder if the Panamint and Mojave ever rattle. They do a better imitation of a Copperhead than the Copperhead.
I suppose the SERE course keeps the snakes down around Fairchild AFB.
Locusts are no match for a class of hungry SERE students. You would be amazed at what is edible in the wild and how little of it is left after the students pass through.