A Complete and Accurate description of any Political Party, Really. I sent an email to my current US Representative, Telling her NOT to support the continuation of the Russian Collusion case against the president. I said’Since the document used to launch this investigation is known to fake, and this fiasco has already cost the US Tax Payer $30,000,000, I want you to withdraw from supporting further investigation.’
Her response?
Let’s just say that in FL’s District 10, the Cure for VD in 2020 is to vote for Republican Kirk Troen…
Given the Dems have talked impeachment of every Republican President since Nixon, the only thing surprising about this time is how long they’ve managed to sustain that fantasy…
I have thought those same things about my emails just yesterday.
tons. DEADLINE. And soooo on.
And they are from both sides.
We won that 20166 elecction. Correct?
And so much has been accomplished against non stop opposition from people in both parties.
And they are coming out of the Republican woodwork again. The Republican in a facade of being a Republican are getting in the primaries as there has been a massive turnover of Republicans by retirement or defeat since President Trump was elected. The past times idea only Fox seemed to be saying are being added to by those who are never Trumpers or only Trumpers because they were forced to do their job. Speaking of those, past Speaker Ryan is a Board member of FOX corp. Now he thinks that he can do something about the problem President Trump is. He says he ws unable to do that as Speaker of the House.
And sociopath politicians will flock to the Republican primaries to be seen as those who would advance the Republicans and Trump’s goals. ( I don’t think that they could conceive of advancing the people’s goals and needs and wants.)
There will be a further influx also of people like the former Hillary and Bernie people who planned the Charlottesville gathering and nighttime march. And of course the police guided by those who wanted certain results, of which a death seemed acceptable, due to their forced throwing the people together and permitting Antifa violence. The democrats now have many people in power that have named anyone who thinks like President Trump to be worthy of the surveillance, entrapment, and provocateurs that they did to many who opposed the left in the past. And they will scream the meaningless but effect hate words at those who oppose them.
I’m also getting Robo-calls. I’ve gotten to the point that if it has an area code from my old state, or is an out of state number that I know I have no connections to, I just let it go to voicemail. They usually just break and the number goes on my “BLOCK” list. What REALLY bugs me is when they leave a message, and start by addressing me by my first name, without an introduction. A classic sales, or con-man start. That one REALLY gets blocked!
With the student debt/car warranty/special credit offers, I’ve found a great way to answer: ¡Hola! The automated machines are usually waiting for hello or hi to start playing the message, hola throws them off and they hang up. If a presumably-real person starts talking with a pitch: ¿Usted habla español? They mark you down as Hispanic and stop calling.
October 1, 2019 at 11:01 am
Pamela
Whenever I decide to answer the phone with one of “Those” calls, I say “Hey Harry, start the call trace. I’ve got another one!”
CLICK.
October 1, 2019 at 3:36 pm
Wineman
As current military, I usually answer with my rank, which upsets the bots. THEN, if a real person answers, I occasionally will demand to know who gave them a classified phone number. It isn’t, of course, but they don’t know that.
October 2, 2019 at 12:42 am
Too Tall
Answer with last four of the phone number. Then ask for:
Full legal name
Date of birth
Place of birth
Social Security number
A phone number where they can be reached after their clearances check out.
Even the die hards hang up by this point.
October 1, 2019 at 5:21 pm
MasterDiver
Moshi-moshi!
Hai!
Aregato, Saraba
Zar Belk!
October 1, 2019 at 11:25 pm
John M.
One thing that usually gets a fast hang-up (if I answer at all) is, as soon as I pick up the phone I say “WQSD you’re on the air!” in my best DJ voice. I even do that with my mobile, since almost no one knows which exchanges are mobile unless they live in the area.
Unfortunately if you use your cell for biz ignoring unknown numbers means ignoring potential customer contacts which are by definition “unknown”. They also get around people who only answer local numbers by spoofing caller ID with numbers that appear to be from your area when in fact they originate in Mumbai or Shanghai or some other shithole. What to do? Well I get from one to ten of them every day and have quit playing games with them and just hang up…wastes a lot less of my time that way.
October 1, 2019 at 2:38 am
Halley
It’s war – the Dims, like al-Qaeda before them, having essentially declared war on America – and GOPers cannot all be epic Street Fighters, but they at least should fight. The ones who refuse to actively oppose/expose the Left’s sedition are deserters or spies, deserving not two cents of support.
That’s interesting because every aspect of it so clearly and concisely details what I would call the “default conservative” doctrine.
I note the rather enthusiastic description, from a professed Christian, of the heathen savior (Holger Danske in this case, but practically every culture has one), a warrior who, like the Pharisees of old had hoped for (and the Israelites of today still hope for), will arise, gather his armies, smash our political and religious enemies into dust and establish an Earthly kingdom. Maybe it represents something which dwells in most all of us; a patient, brooding, long-suffering presence, observing the injustices of the world, waiting for the time to form a posse, arm up and start cutting throats.
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
Well, with most republicans that have been and are in the Swamp, the keeping of the Republic looks mighty slim. Note the big time push to disarm the public before the next election. Not only federal, but in the states individually.
Seems like there is some big time scheming going on as to what will occur, win or lose by some large group of people in some party.
When before in history have we had half the country refusing the results of an election and the leaders of a party calling the winner an “illegitimate president”?
There have been wars because of that in this worlds past.
I am not looking forward as to what will happen here if this continues to escalate.
Yeah send us money. We will not do what You want with or without the money, but send it. you wont need it where we are going to send you.
If the dems pull off this impeachment, at least in the house, and the dems manage to take back the senate next election, we have lost it….we will have become a more in debt Soviet Union….I fear for my grandchildren….making sure they are trained in the use and care of firearms….
Ah, nonncom, you might want to recheck your Constitution. Impeachment can ONLY occur in the House; it’s analogous to an arraignment in civil courts. The trial is conducted in the Senate, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding, where conviction is required before punishment – delineated in the Constitution – may be applied.
October 1, 2019 at 2:53 pm
interventor
Several points, if the Articles of Impeachment are sent to the Senate, they must first vote on the different articles one is charged with. A simple majority removes or approves which are to go forward. The trial is presided over by the Chief Justice of the US. It required a two-thirds vote to remove someone from office.
Good old Creepy Joe, known for being handsy and sniffing hair of women and girls, known for swimming naked in front of the female Secret Service agents, whose detail was considered the second-worst after Hillary, who reportedly has screamed at every staffer, must be forgiven for his little humorous idiosyncrasies because Orange Man Bad, per the woman who couldn’t win with twice the ad spending and ten times the media support. #MeTooLoud
Anything and anyone to finally get rid of Trump, that’s what Democrats are resorting to. Women are construction material for the ramp to the Oval Office. Are there limits? Did Jeffrey Epstein pledge to support the nominee?
I get garbage email, snail mail, and do I calls all the time. The first two go in the trash, and I have broken the Pavlovian response to a ringing phone. If the number’s not stored in my phone I don’t answer it.
I get calls for everything. It allows me to practice my impersonations. I can do Valley Girl, old negro, Chinese restaurant, Movietown news, middle aged liberal, ranting incel and informed college professor. Any age or education. I think that I have personally skewed the results for a number of would be campaigns as being the abnormal outlier for a particular group. Normally get a hang up after two answers that don’t fit the narrative. My invisible dog is amused.
Spin
Tell me again how you want to pull my other finger.
I’m thinking of getting new bumper stickers made that say “Endeavor To Persevere”
Their Twitter-storm actually threatens to blind us to the real DT ones, actually interfering with his preferred method of official communications…have you gotten the “US Census” ones? Incredibly counter-productive. As with everything else Follow The Money…it would be interesting to follow exactly where a hundred bucks sent to them goes and how it is broken down.
You want to know why the government is in no hurry to block robo-calls? It’s been a staple of TV and movies to use bombs with cell phone detonators, landline could also be used. But thanks to telemarketing, any phone anywhere could ring at seemingly anytime. Apparently some scammers just call incrementally, getting numbers that aren’t even in service. Cheap enough as they call blocks of thousands at once.
So phones are virtually worthless to terrorists in America as detonators. Homeland Security wins again. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ran their own service in “areas of suspected activity”.
So…how do random computer-generated calls to random numbers interfere with or prevent Tangoes from calling actually targeted ones?
No, it’s all about the Money…Always Follow The Money, as much with the RNC as with scam calls (redundant). That shit works, THAT’S why they do it and why it is damn near unstoppable. Just hang up. And if you do get targeted by a terrorist bomb…well at least it’ll be quick.
“random computer-generated calls to random numbers”
Scammers can simultaneously call all numbers from (515)723-0000 to (515)723-9999, then go right to the (515)724 block, assuming those are valid exchanges. They only care about who picks up first and instantly hang up the rest. Shouldn’t be that hard to work through several area codes a day and have every capable phone ring at least once.
So a wannabe terrorist makes their clever cell phone-activated bomb, turns it on to admire their handiwork. And suddenly will not be interested in that extended vehicle warranty.
October 1, 2019 at 11:50 pm
John M.
Think the other way – the Tango gets the phone wired and ready right there in his bomb shack, when a telemarketer blind calls…
Ah. Stupid terrorists then. Well as we know, can’t fix that. Except by you know, detonation I guess.
Yes to your second paragraph; not so much random as universal I guess for the marketing scams, somewhat more targeted from a list for the fund-raising I imagine. Still, point being both are done and will continue to be done, because it works on some sub-percentile of recipients enough to make it remunerative…again due to the “can’t fix stupid” factual meme.
Beautiful post and re-post by daughter in law Lara Trump and daddy in law Donald.
Best part though is CNN’s admission…”The map is a county-by-county rendering of the 2016 election. And it is accurate. Trump won 2,626 counties to Hillary Clinton’s 487 in the last presidential election.” Followed by the red-faced sputtering…”But, but, but…” wherein they said you buncha redneck porch-sittin’ gun totin’ bible-thumpin’ Deplorables don’t matter; we are the real people, they chosen, the elites, and your betters.” Well not verbatim, but that’s what they meant.
Finally pulled a WTF and did an online no-purchase Publishers Clearing House entry. About four days later I got a call that they were in my area awarding prizes but I needed a special gold seal from a mailing about the prize I should have gotten a week ago, it’s needed for prizes of a million and up. They’ll only be here today but they could give me directions to pick up my prize at the headquarters in Pittsburgh if that’s what I really wanted, but if I want it here and now…
A few days later when someone called again, I still wasn’t impressed by their time-traveling entry system and hung up again.
These days, 90% of the calls that come in on my land line are bogus. I answer the phone silently. If there is a real person calling me, they will say something. I count to 3 silently, and if no human voice, I hang up. If a robocall starts, I hang up. Actually, most of the time I don’t answer the phone, if the ID says Unknown, Anonymous, or is from halfway across the country.
I figure nearly all of the “please support our group” calls are scams, whether it’s a political party, veterans, firemen, etc. And all the telemarketers are scams, for sure.
Real people that you know either send you a text message or an email. The USA has the greatest telephone system in the world, but it has been taken over by con artists and crooks. Expect the government to do nothing about it, nor the phone companies.
This past year I signed up for Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee emails to see what they are having to say. This was as a lark. I would guess I get a minimum of 6 to 8 a day asking for “just a dollar” please. EVERYTHING is an existential crisis to these people and I mean everything.
It would be laughable if it were not so sad.
And not a one talks about what they are going to do FOR the USA if elected. It is all just about how horrible the GoP, Trump, et al are. Not much else.
All campaigns in the last 20-or-so years have been “MY opponent is a bum – look what he did (or didn’t)”
I don’t remember a single Federal, state, or local campaign since I moved here (North Carolina) 22 years ago that started of with “If elected I will…” EVERY one to my recollection, from all parties, starts “If you don’t vote for me the other so-and-so will…” Unfortunately, even “Orange Man” had a few in 2016.
Yes in most cases and races John M…notably from DJT who couldn’t have been more right with his dire warnings, and from HRC who couldn’t have been more wrong with hers.
But be careful what you wish for as there are some major exceptions to that rule right now…
The most radically leftist of the left in the prez race right now are busily telling us exactly what they would do, and it ain’t good.
Last time spoke to a Republican money raiser, I told him I’d been down this road for 35 years, to no avail. I said I’d start donating again AFTER they “defeated the Democratic Party” (as was the language of the solicitation).
Money cannot buy them principles, nor confidence, nor courage. They have to demonstrate that first, and then, maybe, I could support them again. Certainly not before. 99% of them will run scared! or lash back at you! for broaching the subject of principled action.
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A complete and accurate description of the GOP in three panels.
A Complete and Accurate description of any Political Party, Really. I sent an email to my current US Representative, Telling her NOT to support the continuation of the Russian Collusion case against the president. I said’Since the document used to launch this investigation is known to fake, and this fiasco has already cost the US Tax Payer $30,000,000, I want you to withdraw from supporting further investigation.’
Her response?
Let’s just say that in FL’s District 10, the Cure for VD in 2020 is to vote for Republican Kirk Troen…
Given the Dems have talked impeachment of every Republican President since Nixon, the only thing surprising about this time is how long they’ve managed to sustain that fantasy…
I have thought those same things about my emails just yesterday.
tons. DEADLINE. And soooo on.
And they are from both sides.
We won that 20166 elecction. Correct?
And so much has been accomplished against non stop opposition from people in both parties.
And they are coming out of the Republican woodwork again. The Republican in a facade of being a Republican are getting in the primaries as there has been a massive turnover of Republicans by retirement or defeat since President Trump was elected. The past times idea only Fox seemed to be saying are being added to by those who are never Trumpers or only Trumpers because they were forced to do their job. Speaking of those, past Speaker Ryan is a Board member of FOX corp. Now he thinks that he can do something about the problem President Trump is. He says he ws unable to do that as Speaker of the House.
And sociopath politicians will flock to the Republican primaries to be seen as those who would advance the Republicans and Trump’s goals. ( I don’t think that they could conceive of advancing the people’s goals and needs and wants.)
There will be a further influx also of people like the former Hillary and Bernie people who planned the Charlottesville gathering and nighttime march. And of course the police guided by those who wanted certain results, of which a death seemed acceptable, due to their forced throwing the people together and permitting Antifa violence. The democrats now have many people in power that have named anyone who thinks like President Trump to be worthy of the surveillance, entrapment, and provocateurs that they did to many who opposed the left in the past. And they will scream the meaningless but effect hate words at those who oppose them.
And the ladies can promise to not solicit funds.
Bingo! Not one penny from my limited budget.
It’s not the e-mails. They send me snail mail constantly.
I’m also getting Robo-calls. I’ve gotten to the point that if it has an area code from my old state, or is an out of state number that I know I have no connections to, I just let it go to voicemail. They usually just break and the number goes on my “BLOCK” list. What REALLY bugs me is when they leave a message, and start by addressing me by my first name, without an introduction. A classic sales, or con-man start. That one REALLY gets blocked!
Zar Belk!
With the student debt/car warranty/special credit offers, I’ve found a great way to answer: ¡Hola! The automated machines are usually waiting for hello or hi to start playing the message, hola throws them off and they hang up. If a presumably-real person starts talking with a pitch: ¿Usted habla español? They mark you down as Hispanic and stop calling.
Whenever I decide to answer the phone with one of “Those” calls, I say “Hey Harry, start the call trace. I’ve got another one!”
CLICK.
As current military, I usually answer with my rank, which upsets the bots. THEN, if a real person answers, I occasionally will demand to know who gave them a classified phone number. It isn’t, of course, but they don’t know that.
Answer with last four of the phone number. Then ask for:
Full legal name
Date of birth
Place of birth
Social Security number
A phone number where they can be reached after their clearances check out.
Even the die hards hang up by this point.
Moshi-moshi!
Hai!
Aregato, Saraba
Zar Belk!
One thing that usually gets a fast hang-up (if I answer at all) is, as soon as I pick up the phone I say “WQSD you’re on the air!” in my best DJ voice. I even do that with my mobile, since almost no one knows which exchanges are mobile unless they live in the area.
Unfortunately if you use your cell for biz ignoring unknown numbers means ignoring potential customer contacts which are by definition “unknown”. They also get around people who only answer local numbers by spoofing caller ID with numbers that appear to be from your area when in fact they originate in Mumbai or Shanghai or some other shithole. What to do? Well I get from one to ten of them every day and have quit playing games with them and just hang up…wastes a lot less of my time that way.
It’s war – the Dims, like al-Qaeda before them, having essentially declared war on America – and GOPers cannot all be epic Street Fighters, but they at least should fight. The ones who refuse to actively oppose/expose the Left’s sedition are deserters or spies, deserving not two cents of support.
OT sorta ~ http://holgerawakens.blogspot.com/2019/10/chicken-little-and-shattered-dreams.html
That’s interesting because every aspect of it so clearly and concisely details what I would call the “default conservative” doctrine.
I note the rather enthusiastic description, from a professed Christian, of the heathen savior (Holger Danske in this case, but practically every culture has one), a warrior who, like the Pharisees of old had hoped for (and the Israelites of today still hope for), will arise, gather his armies, smash our political and religious enemies into dust and establish an Earthly kingdom. Maybe it represents something which dwells in most all of us; a patient, brooding, long-suffering presence, observing the injustices of the world, waiting for the time to form a posse, arm up and start cutting throats.
But; Christian? It most certainly is not.
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
Well, with most republicans that have been and are in the Swamp, the keeping of the Republic looks mighty slim. Note the big time push to disarm the public before the next election. Not only federal, but in the states individually.
Seems like there is some big time scheming going on as to what will occur, win or lose by some large group of people in some party.
When before in history have we had half the country refusing the results of an election and the leaders of a party calling the winner an “illegitimate president”?
There have been wars because of that in this worlds past.
I am not looking forward as to what will happen here if this continues to escalate.
Yeah send us money. We will not do what You want with or without the money, but send it. you wont need it where we are going to send you.
If the dems pull off this impeachment, at least in the house, and the dems manage to take back the senate next election, we have lost it….we will have become a more in debt Soviet Union….I fear for my grandchildren….making sure they are trained in the use and care of firearms….
Ah, nonncom, you might want to recheck your Constitution. Impeachment can ONLY occur in the House; it’s analogous to an arraignment in civil courts. The trial is conducted in the Senate, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding, where conviction is required before punishment – delineated in the Constitution – may be applied.
Several points, if the Articles of Impeachment are sent to the Senate, they must first vote on the different articles one is charged with. A simple majority removes or approves which are to go forward. The trial is presided over by the Chief Justice of the US. It required a two-thirds vote to remove someone from office.
Hillary Clinton Has a Message for Anyone Concerned about Biden’s Treatment of Women: ‘Get Over It’
Good old Creepy Joe, known for being handsy and sniffing hair of women and girls, known for swimming naked in front of the female Secret Service agents, whose detail was considered the second-worst after Hillary, who reportedly has screamed at every staffer, must be forgiven for his little humorous idiosyncrasies because Orange Man Bad, per the woman who couldn’t win with twice the ad spending and ten times the media support. #MeTooLoud
Anything and anyone to finally get rid of Trump, that’s what Democrats are resorting to. Women are construction material for the ramp to the Oval Office. Are there limits? Did Jeffrey Epstein pledge to support the nominee?
What about her husband’s treatment of women…
He supports abortion on demand, so it doesn’t count.
Zar Belk!
Twelve of 14 numbers in my “Call Blocked” list are “RNCC”.
I get garbage email, snail mail, and do I calls all the time. The first two go in the trash, and I have broken the Pavlovian response to a ringing phone. If the number’s not stored in my phone I don’t answer it.
I get calls for everything. It allows me to practice my impersonations. I can do Valley Girl, old negro, Chinese restaurant, Movietown news, middle aged liberal, ranting incel and informed college professor. Any age or education. I think that I have personally skewed the results for a number of would be campaigns as being the abnormal outlier for a particular group. Normally get a hang up after two answers that don’t fit the narrative. My invisible dog is amused.
Spin
Tell me again how you want to pull my other finger.
I’m thinking of getting new bumper stickers made that say “Endeavor To Persevere”
Their Twitter-storm actually threatens to blind us to the real DT ones, actually interfering with his preferred method of official communications…have you gotten the “US Census” ones? Incredibly counter-productive. As with everything else Follow The Money…it would be interesting to follow exactly where a hundred bucks sent to them goes and how it is broken down.
My guess, as Sam implies, that about a dollar goes to the Trump “cause”, and the other ninety nine dollars go to MORE COWBELL!
I mean, MORE EMAILS!
sounds a lot like the NRA as well.
That was my first thought: is Wayne LaPierre moonlighting?
You want to know why the government is in no hurry to block robo-calls? It’s been a staple of TV and movies to use bombs with cell phone detonators, landline could also be used. But thanks to telemarketing, any phone anywhere could ring at seemingly anytime. Apparently some scammers just call incrementally, getting numbers that aren’t even in service. Cheap enough as they call blocks of thousands at once.
So phones are virtually worthless to terrorists in America as detonators. Homeland Security wins again. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ran their own service in “areas of suspected activity”.
So…how do random computer-generated calls to random numbers interfere with or prevent Tangoes from calling actually targeted ones?
No, it’s all about the Money…Always Follow The Money, as much with the RNC as with scam calls (redundant). That shit works, THAT’S why they do it and why it is damn near unstoppable. Just hang up. And if you do get targeted by a terrorist bomb…well at least it’ll be quick.
“random computer-generated calls to random numbers”
Scammers can simultaneously call all numbers from (515)723-0000 to (515)723-9999, then go right to the (515)724 block, assuming those are valid exchanges. They only care about who picks up first and instantly hang up the rest. Shouldn’t be that hard to work through several area codes a day and have every capable phone ring at least once.
So a wannabe terrorist makes their clever cell phone-activated bomb, turns it on to admire their handiwork. And suddenly will not be interested in that extended vehicle warranty.
Think the other way – the Tango gets the phone wired and ready right there in his bomb shack, when a telemarketer blind calls…
Ah. Stupid terrorists then. Well as we know, can’t fix that. Except by you know, detonation I guess.
Yes to your second paragraph; not so much random as universal I guess for the marketing scams, somewhat more targeted from a list for the fund-raising I imagine. Still, point being both are done and will continue to be done, because it works on some sub-percentile of recipients enough to make it remunerative…again due to the “can’t fix stupid” factual meme.
Forgetting for a moment “Those who ask” and concentrating on “Those who do”…
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/01/politics/donald-trump-map-2016-election/index.html
Beautiful post and re-post by daughter in law Lara Trump and daddy in law Donald.
Best part though is CNN’s admission…”The map is a county-by-county rendering of the 2016 election. And it is accurate. Trump won 2,626 counties to Hillary Clinton’s 487 in the last presidential election.” Followed by the red-faced sputtering…”But, but, but…” wherein they said you buncha redneck porch-sittin’ gun totin’ bible-thumpin’ Deplorables don’t matter; we are the real people, they chosen, the elites, and your betters.” Well not verbatim, but that’s what they meant.
Lately, I’ve received robocalls in Mandarin on both my landline and cell. Don’t speak the language, but recognize it. Started answering in Vietnamese.
Finally pulled a WTF and did an online no-purchase Publishers Clearing House entry. About four days later I got a call that they were in my area awarding prizes but I needed a special gold seal from a mailing about the prize I should have gotten a week ago, it’s needed for prizes of a million and up. They’ll only be here today but they could give me directions to pick up my prize at the headquarters in Pittsburgh if that’s what I really wanted, but if I want it here and now…
A few days later when someone called again, I still wasn’t impressed by their time-traveling entry system and hung up again.
Sweet
These days, 90% of the calls that come in on my land line are bogus. I answer the phone silently. If there is a real person calling me, they will say something. I count to 3 silently, and if no human voice, I hang up. If a robocall starts, I hang up. Actually, most of the time I don’t answer the phone, if the ID says Unknown, Anonymous, or is from halfway across the country.
I figure nearly all of the “please support our group” calls are scams, whether it’s a political party, veterans, firemen, etc. And all the telemarketers are scams, for sure.
Real people that you know either send you a text message or an email. The USA has the greatest telephone system in the world, but it has been taken over by con artists and crooks. Expect the government to do nothing about it, nor the phone companies.
This past year I signed up for Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee emails to see what they are having to say. This was as a lark. I would guess I get a minimum of 6 to 8 a day asking for “just a dollar” please. EVERYTHING is an existential crisis to these people and I mean everything.
It would be laughable if it were not so sad.
And not a one talks about what they are going to do FOR the USA if elected. It is all just about how horrible the GoP, Trump, et al are. Not much else.
All campaigns in the last 20-or-so years have been “MY opponent is a bum – look what he did (or didn’t)”
I don’t remember a single Federal, state, or local campaign since I moved here (North Carolina) 22 years ago that started of with “If elected I will…” EVERY one to my recollection, from all parties, starts “If you don’t vote for me the other so-and-so will…” Unfortunately, even “Orange Man” had a few in 2016.
Yes in most cases and races John M…notably from DJT who couldn’t have been more right with his dire warnings, and from HRC who couldn’t have been more wrong with hers.
But be careful what you wish for as there are some major exceptions to that rule right now…
The most radically leftist of the left in the prez race right now are busily telling us exactly what they would do, and it ain’t good.
Money does not translate into principled action.
Last time spoke to a Republican money raiser, I told him I’d been down this road for 35 years, to no avail. I said I’d start donating again AFTER they “defeated the Democratic Party” (as was the language of the solicitation).
Money cannot buy them principles, nor confidence, nor courage. They have to demonstrate that first, and then, maybe, I could support them again. Certainly not before. 99% of them will run scared! or lash back at you! for broaching the subject of principled action.