My comment waiting moderation? Why? That’s a first for me here.
October 19, 2015 at 2:16 am
steveb919
Good for the kid. Somebody’s got to do it.
October 19, 2015 at 2:40 am
BlaxPac
*grumble*
…Still no lasers…not even a home-brew CBU system!
Ya slipping, Damon! LOL
October 19, 2015 at 2:42 am
NotYetInACamp
Smart kid.
These are interesting times.
October 19, 2015 at 2:52 am
Uffdaphil
Just hit me that combat forward air controllers need never be KIA again. Those Air Force pilots were some of the most appreciated, gutsiest guys of the Viet Nam war. God bless ’em.
October 19, 2015 at 10:41 am
Unca Walt
I saw Balls of Steel flying a dinky toy plane at 200 feet AGL with little yellow people shooting chunks outa the wings… placed smoke perfectly, and toodled off.
I remain in awe to this day. That was MOH, in my book.
October 19, 2015 at 5:52 am
Bill G
The abilities of drones would have amazed Colonel Eric Eareckson, who did Forward Air Observer work in the Battle of the Aleutians, among many other things.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch house…what will this Forward Air Observer see?
October 19, 2015 at 6:37 am
Pamela
Well should the words “MOM! You need to see this!” come out of his mouth, I’d worry.
October 19, 2015 at 7:29 am
eon
In addition to a budding FAC, you’re probably looking at the Air Force’s next “ace”. Sorry to report, but the next-generation fighter-bomber will be an RPV, not the (overpriced and underperforming) F-35.
cheers
eon
October 19, 2015 at 12:22 pm
Gyro
The problem with having an all RPV air force is the question of what do you do when the bad guys figured out how to hack your system and now can throw your own bombs at you?
October 19, 2015 at 9:28 am
Big Jim
Given most young boys’ curiosity, the ladies of the Double D are going to have to be a little more circumspect about outdoors ‘deshabille’…..
Well, they couldn’t muck it up much worse than my boomer gen has…
And hey, the greatest gen that saved the world last time was largely teens.
October 19, 2015 at 11:32 am
B Woodman
Is that the 13 y.o. conservative young man who has told off O’Bozo on YouTube? HA! What CAN’T the younger generation do?
October 19, 2015 at 11:36 am
B Woodman
In related news. . . Just heard on the radio this morning on the way to work that all unmanned drones (is there any other kind?) will have to register with the Transportation Dept. That caught my attention. Really? The TRANSPORTATION Dept? Are they a sub dept of the FAA?
I see this as close kinship to registering guns with BATFEces. Any other thoughts or news out there on this?
Well I’m not aware of any constitutional provisions of RKFD similar to RKBA.
And while some numbskulls get off on waving their rifles around in Starbucks or Chipotle, responsible gun owners keep theirs under tight control, so there’s otherwise not much parallel to RC aircraft potentially infringing the privacy and safety of others.
OTOH, I’m not much for the calling on inept gov letter agencies to regulate anything, so I don’t know what the answer is for dealing with the booming use and more importantly misuse of UAV’s. Loads of birdshot to deal with incursions seemed to me to be the perfect answer, but apparently that’s been done and not very well received.
So like you, BW, I’d be interested in some of the bright minds here at the DBD comment section chiming in with their thoughts and ideas.
October 19, 2015 at 3:37 pm
B Woodman
PB,
Similar thoughts. Not so much on the Constitutional angle (none there for drones that I can see so far), BUT the inevitable Big Gooberment agency/bureaucracy mission creep, just to justify its continued existence and growth. Starts off all small and innocuous, but then keeps expanding with more rules, and regulations, and fees, and licensing, and taxes, and . . . . .
October 19, 2015 at 1:49 pm
Little-Acorn
So you’ve bought into the “all model airplanes are now drones” meme? Thanks, that’ll make them easier to ban when the gun bans get rejected.
Let me guess: “But everybody calls them that now, so we have to also, so they’ll pay attention.”
The point is that the evolution and merging of formerly distinct systems means that there is just no point in thinking that terminology is going to protect some from regulation. More productive to differentiate on functionality and operating guidelines. As I said in response to B Woodman above, I am averse to gov regs of any damn thing, or any controls period unless and until the rights of others are impacted. And that’s what’s happening, and is only just beginning. So forget the drone/not a drone approach, it’s too late, as the article says, they are all generically drones.
I’d say self or industry regulation would be the best approach, but that inherently would mean limitations on operations and I’m sure you’d be as opposed to that as any gunnie is to any “common sense” gun regs. But as I also said above, there are some similarities, but it’s not the same thing, and it doesn’t do the RC crowd’s cause any good to make the comparison.
What’s the answer? Good question, and I guess time will tell, but that time will be wasted getting hung on a word.
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Time to hit the “come home” button, kiddo!
Hah! I sense a new character is being moved to the foreground…
That apple fell close to the tree.
Knowing Dad’s a tenderfoot, just keeping an eye on him. It’s what (high-tech, home-schooled, family-centered) boys do.
Anything “interesting” yet?
What with the wetbacks that caused the crash and all…
Ah. Little Brother.
The next generation of surveillance technology….
New and improved Gen III – worked out the bugs.
My comment waiting moderation? Why? That’s a first for me here.
Good for the kid. Somebody’s got to do it.
*grumble*
…Still no lasers…not even a home-brew CBU system!
Ya slipping, Damon! LOL
Smart kid.
These are interesting times.
Just hit me that combat forward air controllers need never be KIA again. Those Air Force pilots were some of the most appreciated, gutsiest guys of the Viet Nam war. God bless ’em.
I saw Balls of Steel flying a dinky toy plane at 200 feet AGL with little yellow people shooting chunks outa the wings… placed smoke perfectly, and toodled off.
I remain in awe to this day. That was MOH, in my book.
The abilities of drones would have amazed Colonel Eric Eareckson, who did Forward Air Observer work in the Battle of the Aleutians, among many other things.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch house…what will this Forward Air Observer see?
Well should the words “MOM! You need to see this!” come out of his mouth, I’d worry.
In addition to a budding FAC, you’re probably looking at the Air Force’s next “ace”. Sorry to report, but the next-generation fighter-bomber will be an RPV, not the (overpriced and underperforming) F-35.
cheers
eon
The problem with having an all RPV air force is the question of what do you do when the bad guys figured out how to hack your system and now can throw your own bombs at you?
Given most young boys’ curiosity, the ladies of the Double D are going to have to be a little more circumspect about outdoors ‘deshabille’…..
“Boys Will be Boys.”
Still…and thank goodness for that!
1966: http://www.shorpy.com/node/5180?size=_original#caption
When all modern warfare is conducted by remote…14-year-old boys will rule the world.
Well, they couldn’t muck it up much worse than my boomer gen has…
And hey, the greatest gen that saved the world last time was largely teens.
Is that the 13 y.o. conservative young man who has told off O’Bozo on YouTube? HA! What CAN’T the younger generation do?
In related news. . . Just heard on the radio this morning on the way to work that all unmanned drones (is there any other kind?) will have to register with the Transportation Dept. That caught my attention. Really? The TRANSPORTATION Dept? Are they a sub dept of the FAA?
I see this as close kinship to registering guns with BATFEces. Any other thoughts or news out there on this?
Well I’m not aware of any constitutional provisions of RKFD similar to RKBA.
And while some numbskulls get off on waving their rifles around in Starbucks or Chipotle, responsible gun owners keep theirs under tight control, so there’s otherwise not much parallel to RC aircraft potentially infringing the privacy and safety of others.
OTOH, I’m not much for the calling on inept gov letter agencies to regulate anything, so I don’t know what the answer is for dealing with the booming use and more importantly misuse of UAV’s. Loads of birdshot to deal with incursions seemed to me to be the perfect answer, but apparently that’s been done and not very well received.
So like you, BW, I’d be interested in some of the bright minds here at the DBD comment section chiming in with their thoughts and ideas.
PB,
Similar thoughts. Not so much on the Constitutional angle (none there for drones that I can see so far), BUT the inevitable Big Gooberment agency/bureaucracy mission creep, just to justify its continued existence and growth. Starts off all small and innocuous, but then keeps expanding with more rules, and regulations, and fees, and licensing, and taxes, and . . . . .
So you’ve bought into the “all model airplanes are now drones” meme? Thanks, that’ll make them easier to ban when the gun bans get rejected.
Let me guess: “But everybody calls them that now, so we have to also, so they’ll pay attention.”
Is that it?
chill.
“everybody calls them that now”
Yes, including the industry itself. This little article (let’s call it Drones for Dummies) is as good as any I’ve seen on the basics.
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2013-03/drone-any-other-name
The point is that the evolution and merging of formerly distinct systems means that there is just no point in thinking that terminology is going to protect some from regulation. More productive to differentiate on functionality and operating guidelines. As I said in response to B Woodman above, I am averse to gov regs of any damn thing, or any controls period unless and until the rights of others are impacted. And that’s what’s happening, and is only just beginning. So forget the drone/not a drone approach, it’s too late, as the article says, they are all generically drones.
I’d say self or industry regulation would be the best approach, but that inherently would mean limitations on operations and I’m sure you’d be as opposed to that as any gunnie is to any “common sense” gun regs. But as I also said above, there are some similarities, but it’s not the same thing, and it doesn’t do the RC crowd’s cause any good to make the comparison.
What’s the answer? Good question, and I guess time will tell, but that time will be wasted getting hung on a word.
CopsEyes. Larry Niven.