Unlike the oil spills which they fund and publicize to castigate domestic energy production, this would require admitting to internal malfeasance on a massive scale, ain’t gonna happen.
But in failing to admit fault and providing help, the progs have alienated one more of the historical support groups that they so callously take for granted…Southern yelladogs over guns and flags, old-line Cubans over “normalization” with Castro, Jewish Americans over Israel, and now Native Americans (people who have already been marginalized and relegated to third-world status via the dole) over poisoning their water…keep it up Dims, and even another Bush can kick your socialist asses out of DC.
You’re right. I could just sit in my bunker and cruise around the intertubes spouting incoherent nazobabble…but then you’ve got that job locked up; how’s it working out for you?
Sorry, that was for our recurrent Nazi Nation apologist whose spew Chris zapped.
September 23, 2015 at 9:47 am
woodNfish
I wish Chris wouldn’t do that. Even morons are entitled to their opinions, and it isn’t like there aren’t others like you who will challenge them.
September 23, 2015 at 10:05 am
B Woodman
But there comes a time when one gets tired of stomping out the innumerable forest fires at your feet, and being nibbled to death by ducks.
The morons can have their opinions. . . . . somewhere else.
At other blogs where I lurk and post, there come those idjits who say something so totally conflationary, straw man, outrageous and stoopid, instead of arguing (you’re NEVER going to change their minds), I just call them for what they are “TROLLS, one each, Do Not Feed”, and move on.
September 23, 2015 at 1:34 pm
Oliver Heaviside
Morons are indeed entitled to their opinions, but absolutely no one has any obligation to host them, print them, disseminate them, etc. Chris is right to keep this site at least quasi-rational. There are sites out there that wander SOOO far OT it makes them useless.
September 23, 2015 at 11:43 am
Indiana Mike
The only thing that matters to Dem groups is the free money. They will take ANYTHING as long as the free money continues. The Dems know it, and laugh about it.
September 22, 2015 at 11:53 pm
Camden
No worries; it’s all right on schedule:
1. Wreck the country.
2. Grab the money and run.
3. Blame the evil Republicans.
Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of The Age of Outrage!
Why, yes, we always have. Why do you ask, Two Dogs Humping?
September 23, 2015 at 12:31 am
SteveInCO
One of the last First Nations* tribes to be doing well, now fucked by a Democratic administration. How much you wanna bet they’ll continue to vote Democrat anyway?
*I can’t abide “Native American” because anyone born here deserves that label, and “Indian” really is silly; this isn’t India. “First Nation” is the Canadian term, and (in spite of that) it makes sense; they were indeed here first.
September 23, 2015 at 11:47 am
Indiana Mike
Except for European Kinniwick Man whom the Asian invaders killed to extinction. Kinniwick Man was indeed the first humans on N. American Continent. The Government has essentially legislated that fact out of existence in order to protect the Asian “Indian” political group.
September 23, 2015 at 1:28 pm
Oliver Heaviside
I wish it were true about Kennewick man, and it may yet be true, but the most recent DNA testing suggests he was closely related to the tribes in that area.
September 23, 2015 at 12:36 am
Iconoclast
Sorry, Charlie, yer skin is too lightly tinted for the dims and Forked Tongue no longer needs yer vote. Post Turtle & Bone Head ain’t much better, but hang in there. Come this time in 2017, the air dancing classes should be in full swing & you can help with the ropes!
September 23, 2015 at 9:55 am
B Woodman
I like that, “air dancing classes”. May I?
I’ve usually referred to it as, “rope, tree, politician. . . some assembly required.”
But yours has a certain air of. . . elegance.
I must agree with B Woodman. “Air dancing classes” has a poetry!
September 23, 2015 at 12:37 am
Wulfenite
The Navajo Nation marches lockstep with the Dems. The wagon burners will toe the line come election day, funny water or not.
Congress Critter Ann Kirkpatrick (D), 1st Dist (including the Navajo Nation), went to Page, AZ for a photo op and make nice on Aug 18th, but that was it. BTW – She is running for McCain’s senate seat. McCain is no picnic, but this woman want to be Barbra Boxer in cowboy boots. Sad thing is that the odds are 50/50.
I am Shawnee. My heart may or may not lay with my tribes politics, as I call myself a hard right conservative libertarian. I always thought that was the most sensible possible mixture of thought processes, and descriptive thereof. For damn sure, them Najos are fucked.
September 23, 2015 at 2:22 am
RegT
We have a local liberal judge, a bluecoat who used to be (was born, anyway) Dineh, who hung up his badge to be a judge. He’s a good example of what the Dineh have become.
I was thinking “crime mea (culpa) river” would be more appropriate, but you’ll never hear zero or his band of bros say anything is their fault.
Doubt they would use Latin anyway; arabic or ebonics maybe.
September 23, 2015 at 5:37 am
NotYetInACamp
All Soviets and communist nations, and totalitarian nations have no concern for the people and the environment. Their bleatings are merely words that are cheap that claim their undying loyalty to the people and the land. Meaningless words from horribly dangerous and damaging people.
“They” do not want to solve problems. “They” want their power agenda followed, no matter their mere words of protestation and alleged beauty.
I recall back when the PTB decided that a beginning of a solution to building homes and villages in Haiti was not desired by the PTB (Highest score of 2227 firms worldwide proposing villages to a City of London located architectural control and judging firm), I looked at the Gulf. That insanity brought on by foreseeable negligence in the drilling was “solved” incorrectly by the EPA and friends. They were permitting all of the oil to flow into the Gulf and spewing incredibly toxic chemicals into the water and oil streaming out thus contaminating God knows how much of the water column. An ignorant cricket could see the insanity involved in the constraints the EPA placed on everything and its toxic results.
So I devised methods of catching much of the oil at it’s sea bottom position and transporting it to the surface where collection systems could be, then oil / water separators would do so with the resultant mostly oil mix taken to land for further processing and refining. not catching much interest, I simply went on Coasttocoast AM and spread the idea out into the Zeitgeist knowing the intelligent minds that often listen there.
rather quickly they miraculously and quickly found their answer to plugging the well. So quick that my idea never passed beyond the realization stage among many to the that is so simple why isn’t that being done at billions less cost and massively less environmental damage. It was not a final solution. it was mitigation on an extremely large level.
The EPA contractor was digging into earth behind which water was dammed up. What did a child think would happen?
A magic coefficient of friction moment was reached and the remaining dirt holding the water in simply released and the insult and contamination of Navajo lands and water happened.
There is no concern. There is no care.
There is no point except that they are the soviet, and they have the power for the benefit of the soviet / crony’s only.
The Navajo are not cronies. The PTB consider them members of the plantation that they never really concern themselves about no matter their empty words.
The Obama types who have moles into positions all through society are no more than soviet designed political commissar that inflict their soviet limitations, regulations and control on what was formerly a somewhat efficient and productive society that included past crony gains like that crony and government cooperative mining operation that created the problem to begin with.
The Navajo were screwed, but likely will remain on the plantation due to the desire for more meaningless words that are given to them by RINOS and Democrats who hamstring them, then “give” them just enough to stay constrained.
I was glad that they chased McCain out of the reservation a short while ago when he was there.
The treatment of the Navajo is a microcosm of how all of the sheeple on the plantation are treated.
Sad.
In case anyone wonders, I must be a legend in my own mind. Ya gotta be somewhere.
September 23, 2015 at 5:58 am
Bill G
Big Government giveth, and Big Government taketh away.
Blessed be the name of Big Government.
September 23, 2015 at 6:46 am
Pamela
Outside of not declaring the area a Superfund site, (which, if I remember correctly would have curtailed any mining for the next 30 or so years), what does the Fed want with the mineral resources from the Nation?
Does Barry plan on mining the uranium ore-remember that new untapped resource the supreme ass was talking about- and shipping it out?
Was that one of the nudge-nudge wink-wink off to the side deals made by the swift boat himself that no one gets to know about, if ever, unless you know the secret handshake?
September 23, 2015 at 7:29 am
eon
If he wants to sell it to the mullahs, he guessed wrong- again.
Iran has some of the largest untapped mineral reserves on the planet. Including the 11th largest known uranium ore deposits. There’s no guarantee the deposits aren’t even larger than that because The only reason we even know about those is due to exploration done by the British back in the 1920s, at an “oh, that’s interesting but irrelevant” level.
(Before Hahn & Meitner in 1938, the only use for U238 was as an ingredient in pottery glazes- no, seriously. It had been used in that way in “Iran”- Persia- since ancient times.)
More likely The One wants Anima to be a Superfund site to close it off for any “use”, forever. He doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ about the Nation (Navajo or USA)- he does care about his deep-ecology friends, his primitivist “back to the Stone Age” agenda, and of course borrowing and spending money like a drunken Chicago pol. (Not a sailor- I have respect for them.)
Seen in this light, plus the fact that the EPA’s action was predicted by local geologists and etc. when they began sniffing about the mine, that “Oops” looks more like a “ha-ha, fooled you again.”
clear ether
eon
September 23, 2015 at 10:39 am
SteveInCO
With the caveat that back in the 1920s, few (if any) knew, much less cared, about the distinction between isotopes. (According to Wiki, the first glimmering of the concept of different atomic weights occupying the same slot in the periodic table was in 1913.) It was simply “uranium” back then. Certainly (as you point out) no one had any notion that it could matter until Hahn and Meitner. Before that, there was some awareness that radioactive isotopes of the same element were radiocative in different ways with different half lives.
September 23, 2015 at 8:32 am
Unca Walt
(*sigh*) That is a beautiful piece of artwork… showing the very best of Skye.
September 23, 2015 at 8:44 am
Chris Muir
Sam,not Skye.;)
September 23, 2015 at 6:56 pm
DDS
Walt may be referring to the remarkable image of Skye in the Project Wonderful ad immediately below the strip, before the comments are opened… I have to agree with Unca Walt… sigh, if only…
Agreed. I keep intending to mention that, but it could be lost in translation unless specifically identified. If that is indeed what Walt speaks of, then I am absolutely in harmony.
September 23, 2015 at 10:40 am
SteveInCO
Wow, careful there! Sam could plug you between the eyes for less of an insult than that.
First, the Democrats screw the Jews with the Iran deal and now the Administration slaps the Navajos in the face by poisoning their water supply. Maybe some groups are starting to learn that the Democrats aren’t their freinds.
September 23, 2015 at 11:33 am
Stan Penkala
If you’ve been looking at the Environmental community, this “unintended” release of toxic water was not only predicted at least a week ahead of the event, but it was very useful to the EPA agenda. They have wanted to put this mine, and other such sealed-off mines, into their Superfund sites. By creating the release [never let a good catastrophe go to waste] they were able to do just that.
People at the EPA should go to jail for this, but I’m not holding my breath.
One of the grave problems of government, no matter what government, is holding the police accountable.
The only way it can be practically approached is to make those police live in a fishbowl with their every action scrutinized by the public.
Fat chance.
Way OT but further to our loss of culture, The Yogi left us yesterday on the 69th anniversary of his first big-league game. Some have said it’s finally over, but in his faith he would probably say it ain’t over yet.
He was famous for paradoxical contradictions, most of which he said he never said, but with his passing one of them rings true: “the future ain’t what it used to be” with him gone, and neither is baseball.
September 23, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Don Edwards
Of COURSE that spill wasn’t a disaster – the government did it, therefore it was wonderful and the Navajo nation should be thankful for all the benefits it will bring.
Several recent comments say it perfectly, starting 5 comments above this. Certain infuriations need not be tolerated. You have the right to believe as you will, but you don’t have the right to violate others space given that.
40 Comments
Unlike the oil spills which they fund and publicize to castigate domestic energy production, this would require admitting to internal malfeasance on a massive scale, ain’t gonna happen.
But in failing to admit fault and providing help, the progs have alienated one more of the historical support groups that they so callously take for granted…Southern yelladogs over guns and flags, old-line Cubans over “normalization” with Castro, Jewish Americans over Israel, and now Native Americans (people who have already been marginalized and relegated to third-world status via the dole) over poisoning their water…keep it up Dims, and even another Bush can kick your socialist asses out of DC.
You’re right. I could just sit in my bunker and cruise around the intertubes spouting incoherent nazobabble…but then you’ve got that job locked up; how’s it working out for you?
Sorry, that was for our recurrent Nazi Nation apologist whose spew Chris zapped.
I wish Chris wouldn’t do that. Even morons are entitled to their opinions, and it isn’t like there aren’t others like you who will challenge them.
But there comes a time when one gets tired of stomping out the innumerable forest fires at your feet, and being nibbled to death by ducks.
The morons can have their opinions. . . . . somewhere else.
At other blogs where I lurk and post, there come those idjits who say something so totally conflationary, straw man, outrageous and stoopid, instead of arguing (you’re NEVER going to change their minds), I just call them for what they are “TROLLS, one each, Do Not Feed”, and move on.
Morons are indeed entitled to their opinions, but absolutely no one has any obligation to host them, print them, disseminate them, etc. Chris is right to keep this site at least quasi-rational. There are sites out there that wander SOOO far OT it makes them useless.
The only thing that matters to Dem groups is the free money. They will take ANYTHING as long as the free money continues. The Dems know it, and laugh about it.
No worries; it’s all right on schedule:
1. Wreck the country.
2. Grab the money and run.
3. Blame the evil Republicans.
Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of The Age of Outrage!
Why, yes, we always have. Why do you ask, Two Dogs Humping?
One of the last First Nations* tribes to be doing well, now fucked by a Democratic administration. How much you wanna bet they’ll continue to vote Democrat anyway?
*I can’t abide “Native American” because anyone born here deserves that label, and “Indian” really is silly; this isn’t India. “First Nation” is the Canadian term, and (in spite of that) it makes sense; they were indeed here first.
Except for European Kinniwick Man whom the Asian invaders killed to extinction. Kinniwick Man was indeed the first humans on N. American Continent. The Government has essentially legislated that fact out of existence in order to protect the Asian “Indian” political group.
I wish it were true about Kennewick man, and it may yet be true, but the most recent DNA testing suggests he was closely related to the tribes in that area.
Sorry, Charlie, yer skin is too lightly tinted for the dims and Forked Tongue no longer needs yer vote. Post Turtle & Bone Head ain’t much better, but hang in there. Come this time in 2017, the air dancing classes should be in full swing & you can help with the ropes!
I like that, “air dancing classes”. May I?
I’ve usually referred to it as, “rope, tree, politician. . . some assembly required.”
But yours has a certain air of. . . elegance.
I must agree with B Woodman. “Air dancing classes” has a poetry!
The Navajo Nation marches lockstep with the Dems. The wagon burners will toe the line come election day, funny water or not.
Congress Critter Ann Kirkpatrick (D), 1st Dist (including the Navajo Nation), went to Page, AZ for a photo op and make nice on Aug 18th, but that was it. BTW – She is running for McCain’s senate seat. McCain is no picnic, but this woman want to be Barbra Boxer in cowboy boots. Sad thing is that the odds are 50/50.
When you let the Reservation become a Democrat plantation, what d’you expect?
Have really strong doubts that McCain will be the nominee this time.
I am Shawnee. My heart may or may not lay with my tribes politics, as I call myself a hard right conservative libertarian. I always thought that was the most sensible possible mixture of thought processes, and descriptive thereof. For damn sure, them Najos are fucked.
We have a local liberal judge, a bluecoat who used to be (was born, anyway) Dineh, who hung up his badge to be a judge. He’s a good example of what the Dineh have become.
Cry me a river?
As in… “Crimea river”.
O’s actions the same, just working at home nhere.
I was thinking “crime mea (culpa) river” would be more appropriate, but you’ll never hear zero or his band of bros say anything is their fault.
Doubt they would use Latin anyway; arabic or ebonics maybe.
All Soviets and communist nations, and totalitarian nations have no concern for the people and the environment. Their bleatings are merely words that are cheap that claim their undying loyalty to the people and the land. Meaningless words from horribly dangerous and damaging people.
“They” do not want to solve problems. “They” want their power agenda followed, no matter their mere words of protestation and alleged beauty.
I recall back when the PTB decided that a beginning of a solution to building homes and villages in Haiti was not desired by the PTB (Highest score of 2227 firms worldwide proposing villages to a City of London located architectural control and judging firm), I looked at the Gulf. That insanity brought on by foreseeable negligence in the drilling was “solved” incorrectly by the EPA and friends. They were permitting all of the oil to flow into the Gulf and spewing incredibly toxic chemicals into the water and oil streaming out thus contaminating God knows how much of the water column. An ignorant cricket could see the insanity involved in the constraints the EPA placed on everything and its toxic results.
So I devised methods of catching much of the oil at it’s sea bottom position and transporting it to the surface where collection systems could be, then oil / water separators would do so with the resultant mostly oil mix taken to land for further processing and refining. not catching much interest, I simply went on Coasttocoast AM and spread the idea out into the Zeitgeist knowing the intelligent minds that often listen there.
rather quickly they miraculously and quickly found their answer to plugging the well. So quick that my idea never passed beyond the realization stage among many to the that is so simple why isn’t that being done at billions less cost and massively less environmental damage. It was not a final solution. it was mitigation on an extremely large level.
The EPA contractor was digging into earth behind which water was dammed up. What did a child think would happen?
A magic coefficient of friction moment was reached and the remaining dirt holding the water in simply released and the insult and contamination of Navajo lands and water happened.
There is no concern. There is no care.
There is no point except that they are the soviet, and they have the power for the benefit of the soviet / crony’s only.
The Navajo are not cronies. The PTB consider them members of the plantation that they never really concern themselves about no matter their empty words.
The Obama types who have moles into positions all through society are no more than soviet designed political commissar that inflict their soviet limitations, regulations and control on what was formerly a somewhat efficient and productive society that included past crony gains like that crony and government cooperative mining operation that created the problem to begin with.
The Navajo were screwed, but likely will remain on the plantation due to the desire for more meaningless words that are given to them by RINOS and Democrats who hamstring them, then “give” them just enough to stay constrained.
I was glad that they chased McCain out of the reservation a short while ago when he was there.
The treatment of the Navajo is a microcosm of how all of the sheeple on the plantation are treated.
Sad.
In case anyone wonders, I must be a legend in my own mind. Ya gotta be somewhere.
Big Government giveth, and Big Government taketh away.
Blessed be the name of Big Government.
Outside of not declaring the area a Superfund site, (which, if I remember correctly would have curtailed any mining for the next 30 or so years), what does the Fed want with the mineral resources from the Nation?
Does Barry plan on mining the uranium ore-remember that new untapped resource the supreme ass was talking about- and shipping it out?
Was that one of the nudge-nudge wink-wink off to the side deals made by the swift boat himself that no one gets to know about, if ever, unless you know the secret handshake?
If he wants to sell it to the mullahs, he guessed wrong- again.
Iran has some of the largest untapped mineral reserves on the planet. Including the 11th largest known uranium ore deposits. There’s no guarantee the deposits aren’t even larger than that because The only reason we even know about those is due to exploration done by the British back in the 1920s, at an “oh, that’s interesting but irrelevant” level.
(Before Hahn & Meitner in 1938, the only use for U238 was as an ingredient in pottery glazes- no, seriously. It had been used in that way in “Iran”- Persia- since ancient times.)
More likely The One wants Anima to be a Superfund site to close it off for any “use”, forever. He doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ about the Nation (Navajo or USA)- he does care about his deep-ecology friends, his primitivist “back to the Stone Age” agenda, and of course borrowing and spending money like a drunken Chicago pol. (Not a sailor- I have respect for them.)
Seen in this light, plus the fact that the EPA’s action was predicted by local geologists and etc. when they began sniffing about the mine, that “Oops” looks more like a “ha-ha, fooled you again.”
clear ether
eon
With the caveat that back in the 1920s, few (if any) knew, much less cared, about the distinction between isotopes. (According to Wiki, the first glimmering of the concept of different atomic weights occupying the same slot in the periodic table was in 1913.) It was simply “uranium” back then. Certainly (as you point out) no one had any notion that it could matter until Hahn and Meitner. Before that, there was some awareness that radioactive isotopes of the same element were radiocative in different ways with different half lives.
(*sigh*) That is a beautiful piece of artwork… showing the very best of Skye.
Sam,not Skye.;)
Walt may be referring to the remarkable image of Skye in the Project Wonderful ad immediately below the strip, before the comments are opened… I have to agree with Unca Walt… sigh, if only…
Agreed. I keep intending to mention that, but it could be lost in translation unless specifically identified. If that is indeed what Walt speaks of, then I am absolutely in harmony.
Wow, careful there! Sam could plug you between the eyes for less of an insult than that.
Navajo: suckers!
First, the Democrats screw the Jews with the Iran deal and now the Administration slaps the Navajos in the face by poisoning their water supply. Maybe some groups are starting to learn that the Democrats aren’t their freinds.
If you’ve been looking at the Environmental community, this “unintended” release of toxic water was not only predicted at least a week ahead of the event, but it was very useful to the EPA agenda. They have wanted to put this mine, and other such sealed-off mines, into their Superfund sites. By creating the release [never let a good catastrophe go to waste] they were able to do just that.
People at the EPA should go to jail for this, but I’m not holding my breath.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-12/did-epa-intentionally-poison-animas-river-secure-superfund-money
http://news.discovery.com/earth/toxic-spill-in-animas-river-spawns-conspiracies-150815.htm
One of the grave problems of government, no matter what government, is holding the police accountable.
The only way it can be practically approached is to make those police live in a fishbowl with their every action scrutinized by the public.
Fat chance.
Way OT but further to our loss of culture, The Yogi left us yesterday on the 69th anniversary of his first big-league game. Some have said it’s finally over, but in his faith he would probably say it ain’t over yet.
He was famous for paradoxical contradictions, most of which he said he never said, but with his passing one of them rings true: “the future ain’t what it used to be” with him gone, and neither is baseball.
Of COURSE that spill wasn’t a disaster – the government did it, therefore it was wonderful and the Navajo nation should be thankful for all the benefits it will bring.
Several recent comments say it perfectly, starting 5 comments above this. Certain infuriations need not be tolerated. You have the right to believe as you will, but you don’t have the right to violate others space given that.
This was supposed to be 6 slots beneath where it is.