As a former forward observer, I love a tight 6 round shot group. I also prefer an 8 inch over 155. I did get to call for fire from a MLRS one time. That lifted about a football size area off the ground and set it down again. The very best though is an A-10 stopping and backing up in flight. That 20mm Gatling gun is AWESOME!
I am the only person you will ever meet, that has knocked a duck down (Asian Green Teal) with a 105mm howitzer, took it home and ate it. Hence the Nickname.
I’d rather have two solid 8’s than a 9 and a miss…and spread out a little instead of being in the same hole so there’s a more widespread shock effect on the target, it’s got two lungs, hit both. ‘Tight is right’ is a good thing to strive for but being able to shoot all x’s makes it instinctively difficult when you can’t see the ‘x’ zone and unconsciously waste time hunting for it, in the dark, and the rain, lit up by flashes of blue and red lights.
Our qualification standard counted 8’s, 9’s and 10’s as 5 points; 7’s as 4, and anything else on the coloured part as a 1. Dunno why, there’s some parts in the black that I wouldn’t want to get hit in, like shoulders or lower abdomen, but I didn’t draw the rings. We weren’t supposed to ‘shoot to kill’ anyway and I’d suggest never using that term anyway, say ‘shoot to stop’ and the media and lawyers have one less thing to go after you on.
One annoying part of our program was that a ‘focus group’ decided that the targets shouldn’t be black on white because that was somehow ‘racist’, so they went to blue on white instead…we wore blue uniforms……
These States Are Making It Illegal for Illegal Immigrants to Enter
Thousands of miles from the border, red states are taking matters into their own hands as the border crisis persists…
FL, TX, OK, IA, TN, GA, LA, AZ, and even NH…so far.
Arizona? With our governor, the Veto Queen? You’d have to prove it to me.
April 27, 2024 at 2:22 pm
JTC
From the Epoch Times piece, which is worth a read as there are a few more surprises there…and going forward a lot more I think.
“The battleground state of Arizona passed a law similar to Texas’ HB 4, but its Democratic Gov. Katy Hobbs vetoed it.
That inspired the Legislature to draft a ballot measure to be put to voters in November that would require businesses to use E-verify. E-verify is a voluntary federal online service for employers to check an employee’s eligibility to work in the United States against Department of Homeland Security and Social Security records.”
April 27, 2024 at 8:04 pm
Martin Leclerc
Most of America was Mexico first. Let the people in.
The Plains and Eastern Indians would have had a field day with any Aztecs or Incas from ‘Mexico’ or parts south who tried to set up camp in their territory. Aztecs might have been good at human sacrifice and all of them were good at taking slaves, but the Algonquin Alliance was really creative at torturing enemies to see how ‘tough’ they were.
Besides the native population, Mexico is most known for being largely Spanish. Spain, Portugal and Sicily were at one time ruled by the Moors aka islamic invaders…until freed as part of the Crusades…led by the English…it took hundreds of years but eventually the last of the muslims were driven out in 1492, just in time for the first steps toward ‘Mexico’ becoming a Spanish colony 😉
“When Camargo was reached, we found a city of tents outside the Mexican hamlet. I was detailed to act as quartermaster and commissary to the regiment. The teams that had proven abundantly sufficient to transport all supplies from Corpus Christi to the Rio Grande over the level prairies of Texas, were entirely inadequate to the needs of the reinforced army in a mountainous country. To obviate the deficiency, pack mules were hired, with Mexicans to pack and drive them. I had charge of the few wagons allotted to the 4th infantry and of the pack train to supplement them. There were not men enough in the army to manage that train without the help of Mexicans who had learned how. As it was the difficulty was great enough. The troops would take up their march at an early hour each day. After they had started, the tents and cooking utensils had to be made into packages, so that they could be lashed to the backs of the mules. Sheet-iron kettles, tent-poles, and the mess chests were inconvenient articles to transport in that way. It took several hours to get ready to start each morning, and by the time we were ready some of the mules first loaded would be tired of standing so long with their loads on their backs. Sometimes one would start to run, bowing his back and kicking up until he scattered his load; others would lie down and try to disarrange their loads by attempting to get on the top of them by rolling on them; others with tent-poles for part of their loads would manage to run a tent-pole on one side of a sapling while they would take the other. I am not aware of ever having used a profane explicative in my life; but I would have the charity to excuse those who may have done so, if they were in charge of a train of Mexican pack mules at the time.
2Lt U.S. Grant
Camargo, Mexico
August, 1846
Excerpt from Ulysses S. Grant—Memoirs and Selected Letters
ISBN 978-0-94045058-5
You think grant had it bad ? Imagine Moses tyring to wrangle a million Israelites into travelling formation each time they broke camp. Mind you they did seem to have a much more organized method with each load being assigned to specific individuals to prepare for transport in a speedy and efficient manner.
The ‘concurrent activity’ concept is not a new one. Grant should have read his Scriptures, particularly Exodus and Numbers, more often 😉
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Soon to become far more important…..
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(THUNDEROUS.APPLAUSE)
And there was much rejoicing
There are three theories of proper shot placement;
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Plus of course the Redlegs’ theory.
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As a former forward observer, I love a tight 6 round shot group. I also prefer an 8 inch over 155. I did get to call for fire from a MLRS one time. That lifted about a football size area off the ground and set it down again. The very best though is an A-10 stopping and backing up in flight. That 20mm Gatling gun is AWESOME!
I am the only person you will ever meet, that has knocked a duck down (Asian Green Teal) with a 105mm howitzer, took it home and ate it. Hence the Nickname.
Def a 10.
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Oh. Never mind.
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I’d rather have two solid 8’s than a 9 and a miss…and spread out a little instead of being in the same hole so there’s a more widespread shock effect on the target, it’s got two lungs, hit both. ‘Tight is right’ is a good thing to strive for but being able to shoot all x’s makes it instinctively difficult when you can’t see the ‘x’ zone and unconsciously waste time hunting for it, in the dark, and the rain, lit up by flashes of blue and red lights.
Our qualification standard counted 8’s, 9’s and 10’s as 5 points; 7’s as 4, and anything else on the coloured part as a 1. Dunno why, there’s some parts in the black that I wouldn’t want to get hit in, like shoulders or lower abdomen, but I didn’t draw the rings. We weren’t supposed to ‘shoot to kill’ anyway and I’d suggest never using that term anyway, say ‘shoot to stop’ and the media and lawyers have one less thing to go after you on.
One annoying part of our program was that a ‘focus group’ decided that the targets shouldn’t be black on white because that was somehow ‘racist’, so they went to blue on white instead…we wore blue uniforms……
“Smiley Face”
Might come to shooting, but in the meantime (as we have known and attempted to enforce since 1862 or so), it is up to the states.
States’ rights, and states’ responsibilities. Somebody has to do it.
These States Are Making It Illegal for Illegal Immigrants to Enter
Thousands of miles from the border, red states are taking matters into their own hands as the border crisis persists…
FL, TX, OK, IA, TN, GA, LA, AZ, and even NH…so far.
Arizona? With our governor, the Veto Queen? You’d have to prove it to me.
From the Epoch Times piece, which is worth a read as there are a few more surprises there…and going forward a lot more I think.
“The battleground state of Arizona passed a law similar to Texas’ HB 4, but its Democratic Gov. Katy Hobbs vetoed it.
That inspired the Legislature to draft a ballot measure to be put to voters in November that would require businesses to use E-verify. E-verify is a voluntary federal online service for employers to check an employee’s eligibility to work in the United States against Department of Homeland Security and Social Security records.”
Most of America was Mexico first. Let the people in.
Big Negatori on that.
I’ve heard those arguments before by those who like to cherry-pick history to justify insanity. Long story short, NO.
The Plains and Eastern Indians would have had a field day with any Aztecs or Incas from ‘Mexico’ or parts south who tried to set up camp in their territory. Aztecs might have been good at human sacrifice and all of them were good at taking slaves, but the Algonquin Alliance was really creative at torturing enemies to see how ‘tough’ they were.
Besides the native population, Mexico is most known for being largely Spanish. Spain, Portugal and Sicily were at one time ruled by the Moors aka islamic invaders…until freed as part of the Crusades…led by the English…it took hundreds of years but eventually the last of the muslims were driven out in 1492, just in time for the first steps toward ‘Mexico’ becoming a Spanish colony 😉
Ah, speaking of Mexico, a bit of history–
“When Camargo was reached, we found a city of tents outside the Mexican hamlet. I was detailed to act as quartermaster and commissary to the regiment. The teams that had proven abundantly sufficient to transport all supplies from Corpus Christi to the Rio Grande over the level prairies of Texas, were entirely inadequate to the needs of the reinforced army in a mountainous country. To obviate the deficiency, pack mules were hired, with Mexicans to pack and drive them. I had charge of the few wagons allotted to the 4th infantry and of the pack train to supplement them. There were not men enough in the army to manage that train without the help of Mexicans who had learned how. As it was the difficulty was great enough. The troops would take up their march at an early hour each day. After they had started, the tents and cooking utensils had to be made into packages, so that they could be lashed to the backs of the mules. Sheet-iron kettles, tent-poles, and the mess chests were inconvenient articles to transport in that way. It took several hours to get ready to start each morning, and by the time we were ready some of the mules first loaded would be tired of standing so long with their loads on their backs. Sometimes one would start to run, bowing his back and kicking up until he scattered his load; others would lie down and try to disarrange their loads by attempting to get on the top of them by rolling on them; others with tent-poles for part of their loads would manage to run a tent-pole on one side of a sapling while they would take the other. I am not aware of ever having used a profane explicative in my life; but I would have the charity to excuse those who may have done so, if they were in charge of a train of Mexican pack mules at the time.
2Lt U.S. Grant
Camargo, Mexico
August, 1846
Excerpt from Ulysses S. Grant—Memoirs and Selected Letters
ISBN 978-0-94045058-5
You think grant had it bad ? Imagine Moses tyring to wrangle a million Israelites into travelling formation each time they broke camp. Mind you they did seem to have a much more organized method with each load being assigned to specific individuals to prepare for transport in a speedy and efficient manner.
The ‘concurrent activity’ concept is not a new one. Grant should have read his Scriptures, particularly Exodus and Numbers, more often 😉