Or a single shot muzzle loader with flint out or percussion cap off, but even then a spark could happen by…and even unloaded completely, those butts were designed and shaped to beat a man to death with and that ramrod could put an eye out š
December 8, 2024 at 12:57 am
eon
The other safe place with white jackets is the sort of place a certain British agent used to drink vodka martinis.
Having a PPK under the formal white tux was a useful bit of insurance, and you always carry it with the safety off, hammer down on a loaded chamber.
Yeah, I laughed aloud for a while at that one. Might expose you to lead, huh? Hoodathunk? Should be alright as long as it’s not moving really fast when it contacts you.
December 8, 2024 at 8:30 am
Browncoat57
I’ve had five Caniks. Sold one, and loaned one to a friend, indefinitely.
I’ve moved up to the TP9SF Elite. Trigger is as good as an H&K or Walther.
The early Glocks came in a plastic tub very reminiscent of Tupperware. As I recall, no one minded the nickname because the Glocks were dead nuts reliable.
December 8, 2024 at 1:27 am
PeregrineJohn
When someone wants to be safe more than feel safe, that person has taken a big step toward adulthood.
Personal responsibility for your own security is like reverse-Fernando (Billy Crystal): “It is better to be safe than to feel safe, you know what I’m saying?”
Revolvers don’t generally have safeties, one less thing to forget in the heat of the moment.
When they took our Model 10’s and gave us H&K P2000’s I was relieved that they didn’t have either a safety or a hammer drop, one gets you killed and the other gets someone else killed. Potentially a very good choice, but…the powers that be who had never held a sidearm but still made the decisions, decided that the adjustable trigger would be set as hard as it would go in the interests of ‘safety’ and nobody could convince them that a 16+lb trigger pull destroyed any semblance of accuracy and was likely to pull the sights off target yanking the trigger in a stress situation to the point that bystanders would be in more danger than the intended target. Hardly anyone failed the qualification during basic training on the revolver but hardly anyone passed with the H&K on the first try, or at all, and we lost a lot of potentially very good Officers to that. I’d been shooting competitively for years at that point and I really had to think about it when I qualified, I very literally had to use the trigger finger on both hands at once to get a shot off cleanly.
My wife wants a revolver rather than a semi-auto as she fears the slide. She has tiny hands and says she struggles to rack a round. Also she is afraid of getting hit by the slide kicking back during discharges. I pointed out the trigger pull issue on revolvers; she wasn’t aware of such.
I should arrange some range time with her so she’s more comfortable with a semi-auto. Hmmm…
Also expose her (range rental) to a couple of the popup barrel semi autos, function effectively as a s/a revolver with chamber kept loaded safely, and so easy to load the chamber and magazine with no manipulating of the slide at all.
December 8, 2024 at 6:14 pm
RHT447
Double action revolvers offer reliability and simplicity of operation. The solution to just about any scenario is the same–pull the trigger.
Agree with JTC, rental range time. Introduce her to the S&W Shield EZ line. My wife is able to rack the slide on hers with no problem. Wife’s issue is that her grip strength is not what it once was, so she has to be mindful of the grip safety.
December 8, 2024 at 6:46 pm
eon
Introduce her to the Ruger LCP in either .380 ACP or 9 x 19mm. Being Colt-Browning pattern locked-breech designs, they don’t have the heavier recoil springs required by straight blowbacks in small auto pistols. Also, their DAO searage has a relatively light trigger pull.
The major thing about the LCP .380 is that it is no bigger or heavier than the average .25 ACP pistol. Meaning, very easy for even a petite’ lady to carry discreetly. Also, advances in bullet design have gotten the .380 ACP round up off its knees in the fight-stopping department. It’s still not a “one-and-done” stopper like a .357 Magnum, but it’s about as effective as some of the better .38 Specials these days.
Ruger also has the LCR revolvers in 9mm and .357 Magnum. They do tend to have heavier triggers, but the 9mm can use any of the “hot” 9 x 19 defense loads with less felt recoil than the .357.
I hope this helps.
cheers
eon
December 9, 2024 at 12:09 am
Sam
I shot an LCP when they first came out. Harsh is a description I remember. Gutter sights, and heavy trigger. I don’t know if they improved with later iteratitions.
I carry an LCR357, with .38 Special defensive rounds. I got the .357 version because it weighed 17.6 ounces, vs 13.5 for the .38 Special version. And also so I can shoot the longer rounds if I wish to. The recoil tamer grip helps a lot. The double action only trigger is about 8#, but is smooth, with no stacking.
December 9, 2024 at 3:10 am
Henry
Have your wife:
Turn 90Ā° right but keep the muzzle downrange (pointing to her left)
Hold the gun close in to her chest
Rack the semi-auto by pushing the arms together across her chest in a “hug” motion, using the strongest arm muscles.
The “slingshot” rack can challenghe even male newbies.
December 9, 2024 at 12:24 pm
Oldarmourer
A nice smooth DA pull can feel surprisingly light. I’ve had a lot of people, including a 4’10” woman rapid fire my N-frame .45 with no effort. It’s a fairly light pull, even for a S&W and in SA it’s as crisp as a cracker with no overtravel but not a ‘hair trigger’ by any means. I can’t remember what I weighed it at but I think it was about 3/3.5 lbs SA and 9 or so DA but smooooth.
December 8, 2024 at 2:05 pm
JTC
Sorry entirely OT as much of my drivel is but Elon’s Re-post of this with the 100% symbol is very predictive, thank God.
āInflation is made in Washington because only Washington can create money, and any other attribution to other groups of inflation is wrong.
Consumers donāt produce it. Producers donāt produce it. The trade unions don’t produce it. Foreign sheiks don’t produce it. Oil imports don’t produce it. What produces it is too much government spending and too much government creation of money and nothing else.ā
Explaining the truth of the 2024 economy in 1978 by Milton Friedman
Probably would never have been a conflict if Obama had not deliberately engineered a coup in the first place to install the Z puppet.
December 9, 2024 at 12:28 pm
Oldarmourer
Pretty much everything going on in the ME can be traced directly back to ‘bama and his ‘the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam’ bullshit.
That kickstarted the ‘arab spring’ and of course his arming isis didn’t hurt.
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One should never trust a Safety anyway.
Treat every weapon as if it is loaded.
The only remotely trustworthy safety is on a Colt SAA – – hammer down on an empty chamber . . .
Or a single shot muzzle loader with flint out or percussion cap off, but even then a spark could happen by…and even unloaded completely, those butts were designed and shaped to beat a man to death with and that ramrod could put an eye out š
The other safe place with white jackets is the sort of place a certain British agent used to drink vodka martinis.
Having a PPK under the formal white tux was a useful bit of insurance, and you always carry it with the safety off, hammer down on a loaded chamber.
clear ether
eon
I am a die hard 1911 fan. That said, my choice of Tactical Tupperware is this one–
https://www.canikusa.com/tp9sf
–IMHO, what Glock should have evolved to 20 years ago, and at under 4 Benjamins. I recommend sootch00 channel on YouTube for reviews.
I like the California health warning:
California Residents:
WARNING: THIS PRODUCT CAN EXPOSE YOU TO CHEMICALS INCLUDING LEAD,
Yeah, I laughed aloud for a while at that one. Might expose you to lead, huh? Hoodathunk? Should be alright as long as it’s not moving really fast when it contacts you.
I’ve had five Caniks. Sold one, and loaned one to a friend, indefinitely.
I’ve moved up to the TP9SF Elite. Trigger is as good as an H&K or Walther.
*Snerk* “Tactical Tupperware” š š
What a perfect name/description for polymer framed pistols!!!!
Two thumbs up Sir!!!
The early Glocks came in a plastic tub very reminiscent of Tupperware. As I recall, no one minded the nickname because the Glocks were dead nuts reliable.
When someone wants to be safe more than feel safe, that person has taken a big step toward adulthood.
By the numbers, most never get that far.
Personal responsibility for your own security is like reverse-Fernando (Billy Crystal): “It is better to be safe than to feel safe, you know what I’m saying?”
What a great and necessary message being sent and already having Yuge effect…the statement by POTUS47 on the exploding Syria:
“Not our circus. Not our monkeys.”
Feelings donāt make you safe.
Good words. “Real-world, safeties off”.
Nourishment for the soul in every panel.
Revolvers don’t generally have safeties, one less thing to forget in the heat of the moment.
When they took our Model 10’s and gave us H&K P2000’s I was relieved that they didn’t have either a safety or a hammer drop, one gets you killed and the other gets someone else killed. Potentially a very good choice, but…the powers that be who had never held a sidearm but still made the decisions, decided that the adjustable trigger would be set as hard as it would go in the interests of ‘safety’ and nobody could convince them that a 16+lb trigger pull destroyed any semblance of accuracy and was likely to pull the sights off target yanking the trigger in a stress situation to the point that bystanders would be in more danger than the intended target. Hardly anyone failed the qualification during basic training on the revolver but hardly anyone passed with the H&K on the first try, or at all, and we lost a lot of potentially very good Officers to that. I’d been shooting competitively for years at that point and I really had to think about it when I qualified, I very literally had to use the trigger finger on both hands at once to get a shot off cleanly.
My wife wants a revolver rather than a semi-auto as she fears the slide. She has tiny hands and says she struggles to rack a round. Also she is afraid of getting hit by the slide kicking back during discharges. I pointed out the trigger pull issue on revolvers; she wasn’t aware of such.
I should arrange some range time with her so she’s more comfortable with a semi-auto. Hmmm…
Also expose her (range rental) to a couple of the popup barrel semi autos, function effectively as a s/a revolver with chamber kept loaded safely, and so easy to load the chamber and magazine with no manipulating of the slide at all.
Double action revolvers offer reliability and simplicity of operation. The solution to just about any scenario is the same–pull the trigger.
Agree with JTC, rental range time. Introduce her to the S&W Shield EZ line. My wife is able to rack the slide on hers with no problem. Wife’s issue is that her grip strength is not what it once was, so she has to be mindful of the grip safety.
Introduce her to the Ruger LCP in either .380 ACP or 9 x 19mm. Being Colt-Browning pattern locked-breech designs, they don’t have the heavier recoil springs required by straight blowbacks in small auto pistols. Also, their DAO searage has a relatively light trigger pull.
The major thing about the LCP .380 is that it is no bigger or heavier than the average .25 ACP pistol. Meaning, very easy for even a petite’ lady to carry discreetly. Also, advances in bullet design have gotten the .380 ACP round up off its knees in the fight-stopping department. It’s still not a “one-and-done” stopper like a .357 Magnum, but it’s about as effective as some of the better .38 Specials these days.
Ruger also has the LCR revolvers in 9mm and .357 Magnum. They do tend to have heavier triggers, but the 9mm can use any of the “hot” 9 x 19 defense loads with less felt recoil than the .357.
I hope this helps.
cheers
eon
I shot an LCP when they first came out. Harsh is a description I remember. Gutter sights, and heavy trigger. I don’t know if they improved with later iteratitions.
I carry an LCR357, with .38 Special defensive rounds. I got the .357 version because it weighed 17.6 ounces, vs 13.5 for the .38 Special version. And also so I can shoot the longer rounds if I wish to. The recoil tamer grip helps a lot. The double action only trigger is about 8#, but is smooth, with no stacking.
Have your wife:
Turn 90Ā° right but keep the muzzle downrange (pointing to her left)
Hold the gun close in to her chest
Rack the semi-auto by pushing the arms together across her chest in a “hug” motion, using the strongest arm muscles.
The “slingshot” rack can challenghe even male newbies.
A nice smooth DA pull can feel surprisingly light. I’ve had a lot of people, including a 4’10” woman rapid fire my N-frame .45 with no effort. It’s a fairly light pull, even for a S&W and in SA it’s as crisp as a cracker with no overtravel but not a ‘hair trigger’ by any means. I can’t remember what I weighed it at but I think it was about 3/3.5 lbs SA and 9 or so DA but smooooth.
Sorry entirely OT as much of my drivel is but Elon’s Re-post of this with the 100% symbol is very predictive, thank God.
āInflation is made in Washington because only Washington can create money, and any other attribution to other groups of inflation is wrong.
Consumers donāt produce it. Producers donāt produce it. The trade unions don’t produce it. Foreign sheiks don’t produce it. Oil imports don’t produce it. What produces it is too much government spending and too much government creation of money and nothing else.ā
Explaining the truth of the 2024 economy in 1978 by Milton Friedman
Left upthread by mistake, DT’s effective comment on Syria…
What a great and necessary message being sent and already having Yuge effect…the statement by POTUS47 on the exploding Syria:
“Not our circus. Not our monkeys.”
That bodes mighty well.
Which message btw, if followed ref. Russia/Ukraine would have ended that conflict right then and there.
Probably would never have been a conflict if Obama had not deliberately engineered a coup in the first place to install the Z puppet.
Pretty much everything going on in the ME can be traced directly back to ‘bama and his ‘the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam’ bullshit.
That kickstarted the ‘arab spring’ and of course his arming isis didn’t hurt.