Yeah, that’ll never happen. For the same reason that politicians exempt themselves and their campaign committees from anti-spam laws because what they have to say is much more important than what anyone else could possibly have to say.
I’m thinking, stocks and pillory, or maybe bring public flogging of politicians back and charge admission. It would have one of two effects: raise a lot of money for the various municipalities and states or motivate the politicians to do their damn jobs for a change.
Skye, you are close, but Thomas Jefferson said it best:
“From time to time the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
Patriots have been regularly bleeding in defense of this nation, but we are long overdue for a flood of biblical proportions of our homegrown tyrants’ blood.
Lefties know that better than anybody. Think of it like this; they don’t really want gun *laws*, but rather gun *control*…not the same thing.
Forget laws for politicians, they’ll just laugh and ignore them. In their minds, laws are for the little people. And as I said, they are only for law-abiding citizens. That pretty much leaves out politicians. So let’s control them; every movement, every expenditure, every aspect under total control.
The first and best result of that is there would be a lot less politicians to control.
Lamp posts are better. Less chance of damaging a valuable tree. 😛
September 6, 2019 at 12:48 am
WayneM
The concept was supposed to be that politicians should be reluctant to serve and would need to be persuaded by their friends, family and peers to temporarily give of their time… When was Biden first elected?
A fantasy novel I read years ago described a rather innovative way of dealing with politicians which ensured diligence to say the least. As soon as an individual was elected, their entire estate, whether large or small, was seized by the State and valuated. The politician served his time and, at the end of his term, his estate was returned to him improved the same amount as the economy had improved.
Needless to say, the majority of individual did everything they could to avoid being elected… and no-one sought to be re-elected… Executive power was constrained in that it was not possible to artificially stimulate inflation… and deficits were verboten.
Obviously not true considering the Elite Left is bankrolled by multi-billionaires.
Unless, of course you use the classical definition of Liberal, the likes of which are today condemned as “Alt-Right”.
In related news, a true fact and bloody brilliant…
“I considered selling my weapons back to the government, but after a background check and thorough investigation into the buyer, I determined the buyer has a history of violence and is mentally unstable. Big risk to everyone around it.”
Can’t remember where I saw this : “Any bill longer than two pages should require a 2/3 vote in both houses to pass. If this bill is signed into law and then later overturned by the courts as unconstitutional, then everyone who voted for that bill should be removed from office for failure to uphold the oath they took to defend the Constitution.” “Nuff said…………
There are already constitutional limits on lawmakers’ power. Here are two right off the top of my head: No bills of attainder and no ex post facto laws.
Here’s another: presidential vetoes.
And another: SCOTUS overturning bad laws as unconstitutional.
I’d say those few examples show there are and have always been constitutional limits on lawmakers and their power.
September 7, 2019 at 12:15 am
Henry
It’s not enough.
Lawmakers pass blatantly unconstitutional laws, forcing citizen victims to endure hardships and extreme expense for years, before it can get to the one court that can declare it unconstitutional (if the money doesn’t run out first). When so declared, the victim doesnt get his money or his time back, and the politicians responsible get zero penalty. That is not justice. Justice would be to put the bill’s author in a cage alone with one of his victims; if he survives, the next victim in line enters the cage.
September 7, 2019 at 12:20 am
NotYetInACamp
The US Constitution is written as a limitation on government powers. All powers, including those not delegated or authorized, reside in the people.
We loan government power. Then they become tyrannical so often. Pelosi believes the government gives people power and rights and liberties. She is back asswards.
September 6, 2019 at 9:46 am
John D. Egbert
I’ve long maintained that in addition to the two-page limit, every bill submitted for consideration should have as its first paragraph a detailed justification for its existence — citing Article, Section and Clause of the Constitution as written and explained in the Federalist Papers.
Then, go back and apply the same requirement to all laws currently on the books, repealing those that don’t measure up. Imagine, just for openers, what that would do to the more than 20k gun “laws” currently in force . . .
Politician at work: Buttigieg Explains Why He Flies Private Despite Climate Action Message: ‘This is a Very Big Country’ …
He continued, “I’m not even asking for Japanese-level trains. Just give me like Italian-level trains and we would be way ahead of where we are right now, but that’s going to require policy choices and investment. And to anybody who says we shouldn’t subsidize trains, they’ve got to stand on their own two feet. Think about just how many ways we subsidize driving, which is among the most carbon-intensive things we could be doing.”
We Americans don’t have to be as great as the Japanese, merely being as wonderful as the Italians would be a vast improvement. And the government should subsidize trains like we subsidize driving, helping drivers cover the equipment and fuel costs on every trip. We could even give this system of federal train subsidization a catchy name, like Amtrak.
We already subsidize trains. And for some limited uses they are OK, but they don’t always run on time, and they break down a fair amount. On top of that they are expensive compared to buses and don’t get you there.
Funny how the left want to be progressive, yet want to go back to the days when rails ran the country. Of course I would never insinuate the left are hypocrites….
Not the first time the commies have held up the .gov model as the ideal for the takeover of private enterprise. This from a decade ago at the old dead blog when bobo was promoting the boondoggle of Obamacare:
In fact they don’t just repeat them, they have a marked tendency to double down.
September 6, 2019 at 9:53 am
Kafiroon
If, Buttboy has Ever ridden on a Indian train, It would Only have been in a reserved car with bodyguards. Ridding those is a lifetime experience in crushed crowding, robbery, assault, and you probably will not get off at your wanted stop. If you get off with those who were in your party and any luggage is gambling at best. An experience that will not be forgotten.
Red flag laws for politicians who propose anything that violates the Constitution.
Violation proven by a panel of 3 constitutional judges
Perpetrator is returned to private life for life
With cars, you decide where to go and when. With government-owned mass transit, the government limits your choices and wastes your time – and even more when it’s a train. Even back when the passenger trains were privately owned and mostly unregulated, Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote, “The train is in the saddle and rides mankind.”
The other thing is, North American railroads have been optimized for freight. Compared to Europe, we ship a much higher percentage of our freight by rail, and a lower percentage by roads[1]. This saves A LOT of fuel (and carbon emissions, if you think we should care about that). I suspect our greater use of rail freight pretty much balances out the carbon emissions Europeans save by taking buses and trains instead of driving. And I think most of them aren’t doing that voluntarily – high taxes and an over-taxed and over-regulated economy leave half of them too poor to buy a car, and many of the wealthier commuters are forced into mass transit by government policies limiting parking and road capacity.
[1] Europe has a substantially higher portion of it’s freight traffic going by ships, which is even more efficient than rail, but the geographies are quite different. Europe is a cluster of peninsulas around a barely populated central mountain mass. North American has most of the land far from the sea, and aside from the Great Lakes area and Mississippi valley, most of it not even accessible to _small_ ocean-going ships, lake freighters, or river barges. We might have a little more freight going by coastal freighters if foreign-flagged ships (exempted from many ridiculous American regulations) were allowed to carry freight between American ports without stopping at a foreign port in between, but it would not have much impact – by my count, only 23 states – including nearly all the small ones – have a sea-coast at all, and even within those, very little industry or warehousing is directly on the water. Even for containerized and bulk freight, it costs to load from trucks or trains to a ship and then off-load to land transport again, so coastal shipping is only going to used for longer distances.
The progressives, Marxists, Muslims, and many others only say what they think will win.
Then that allegedly “common sense compromise law” is placed as the benchmark to move the law, argument, or conquest a little farther. There never is a common sense law that they agreed to that is any longer acceptable the moment after a workable agreement may have been reached.
It is war. Diplomats and lawmakers are part of that war even if they are just following orders.
Senator Chuckie, Speaker Pelosi, the retired Rep Speaker, and many others are just mouthpieces in the war against the people.
Some have been forced to the good side.
EVRYthing that happens results in laws taking away the people’s freedom and liberty, should we permit it.
Those girls could make this LARP, but seriously played, a real fun time. These women might even achieve some good things by getting ideas and facts out to the people.
Skye really pointed out who is acting on and supporting the problems and the creation of more problems. Humor is strong for the good force.
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Yeah, that’ll never happen. For the same reason that politicians exempt themselves and their campaign committees from anti-spam laws because what they have to say is much more important than what anyone else could possibly have to say.
If, older traditions involving tar, feathers, and fence rails were revived, perhaps, the common sense laws would be welcomed.
I didn’t see “lampposts” in there, so we may not be taken seriously.
I’m thinking, stocks and pillory, or maybe bring public flogging of politicians back and charge admission. It would have one of two effects: raise a lot of money for the various municipalities and states or motivate the politicians to do their damn jobs for a change.
Why do you think “they” outlawed dueling?
Need sound effects, Chris. Like a BIG, loud rim-shot.
Politicians, lamp-posts, and rope. Some assembly required….
sounds good to me. Hey, here;s an idea- ask the Alexa, “Alexa, where can I get sturdy hemp rope, a bucket of tar and a pound of feathers?”
heh…beat me to it 😉
Being a politician is a privilege, not a right. How about some licensing, maybe some training or a learner’s permit system.
Real Joe Biden Quote: ‘You Can’t, in Fact, Preach to the Choir if You Can’t Sing’
Maybe some sort of check-up as they get older, to verify their faculties are still up to snuff and not turning to dust.
Skye, you are close, but Thomas Jefferson said it best:
“From time to time the Tree of Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
Patriots have been regularly bleeding in defense of this nation, but we are long overdue for a flood of biblical proportions of our homegrown tyrants’ blood.
That won’t work. Laws are for the law-abiding.
Lefties know that better than anybody. Think of it like this; they don’t really want gun *laws*, but rather gun *control*…not the same thing.
Forget laws for politicians, they’ll just laugh and ignore them. In their minds, laws are for the little people. And as I said, they are only for law-abiding citizens. That pretty much leaves out politicians. So let’s control them; every movement, every expenditure, every aspect under total control.
The first and best result of that is there would be a lot less politicians to control.
That’s why God created trees and man invented rope.
Lamp posts are better. Less chance of damaging a valuable tree. 😛
The concept was supposed to be that politicians should be reluctant to serve and would need to be persuaded by their friends, family and peers to temporarily give of their time… When was Biden first elected?
A fantasy novel I read years ago described a rather innovative way of dealing with politicians which ensured diligence to say the least. As soon as an individual was elected, their entire estate, whether large or small, was seized by the State and valuated. The politician served his time and, at the end of his term, his estate was returned to him improved the same amount as the economy had improved.
Needless to say, the majority of individual did everything they could to avoid being elected… and no-one sought to be re-elected… Executive power was constrained in that it was not possible to artificially stimulate inflation… and deficits were verboten.
It’s interesting to see that Skye is waking up…
One of my late father’s favorite two-liners was:
“A Conservative is conservative from the moment of birth,
A Liberal is liberal until he has something of worth.”
He said it was something he had heard in college (Harvard, of all places) but he could not remember who to attribute it to.
Obviously not true considering the Elite Left is bankrolled by multi-billionaires.
Unless, of course you use the classical definition of Liberal, the likes of which are today condemned as “Alt-Right”.
In related news, a true fact and bloody brilliant…
“I considered selling my weapons back to the government, but after a background check and thorough investigation into the buyer, I determined the buyer has a history of violence and is mentally unstable. Big risk to everyone around it.”
— Justin Maloney (@JMaloneyLiberty)
Hear here!!
Awesome!
Can’t remember where I saw this : “Any bill longer than two pages should require a 2/3 vote in both houses to pass. If this bill is signed into law and then later overturned by the courts as unconstitutional, then everyone who voted for that bill should be removed from office for failure to uphold the oath they took to defend the Constitution.” “Nuff said…………
That would be a constitutional limit of the lawmakers powers, I believe.
There are already constitutional limits on lawmakers’ power. Here are two right off the top of my head: No bills of attainder and no ex post facto laws.
Here’s another: presidential vetoes.
And another: SCOTUS overturning bad laws as unconstitutional.
I’d say those few examples show there are and have always been constitutional limits on lawmakers and their power.
It’s not enough.
Lawmakers pass blatantly unconstitutional laws, forcing citizen victims to endure hardships and extreme expense for years, before it can get to the one court that can declare it unconstitutional (if the money doesn’t run out first). When so declared, the victim doesnt get his money or his time back, and the politicians responsible get zero penalty. That is not justice. Justice would be to put the bill’s author in a cage alone with one of his victims; if he survives, the next victim in line enters the cage.
The US Constitution is written as a limitation on government powers. All powers, including those not delegated or authorized, reside in the people.
We loan government power. Then they become tyrannical so often. Pelosi believes the government gives people power and rights and liberties. She is back asswards.
I’ve long maintained that in addition to the two-page limit, every bill submitted for consideration should have as its first paragraph a detailed justification for its existence — citing Article, Section and Clause of the Constitution as written and explained in the Federalist Papers.
Then, go back and apply the same requirement to all laws currently on the books, repealing those that don’t measure up. Imagine, just for openers, what that would do to the more than 20k gun “laws” currently in force . . .
The U S Constitution is a limitation of government actions against the people.
I suppose that a few laws that follow the US Constitution that limit individuals as members of the government may just be in order.
But how to write them well.
Politician at work: Buttigieg Explains Why He Flies Private Despite Climate Action Message: ‘This is a Very Big Country’
…
He continued, “I’m not even asking for Japanese-level trains. Just give me like Italian-level trains and we would be way ahead of where we are right now, but that’s going to require policy choices and investment. And to anybody who says we shouldn’t subsidize trains, they’ve got to stand on their own two feet. Think about just how many ways we subsidize driving, which is among the most carbon-intensive things we could be doing.”
We Americans don’t have to be as great as the Japanese, merely being as wonderful as the Italians would be a vast improvement. And the government should subsidize trains like we subsidize driving, helping drivers cover the equipment and fuel costs on every trip. We could even give this system of federal train subsidization a catchy name, like Amtrak.
We already subsidize trains. And for some limited uses they are OK, but they don’t always run on time, and they break down a fair amount. On top of that they are expensive compared to buses and don’t get you there.
Funny how the left want to be progressive, yet want to go back to the days when rails ran the country. Of course I would never insinuate the left are hypocrites….
Not the first time the commies have held up the .gov model as the ideal for the takeover of private enterprise. This from a decade ago at the old dead blog when bobo was promoting the boondoggle of Obamacare:
https://poetnthepawnbroker.blogspot.com/2009/08/healthcaregov-post-office-of-medical.html
It’s the hallmark of the mental disease that is leftism; never learn from past mistakes but rather just keep repeating them.
In fact they don’t just repeat them, they have a marked tendency to double down.
If, Buttboy has Ever ridden on a Indian train, It would Only have been in a reserved car with bodyguards. Ridding those is a lifetime experience in crushed crowding, robbery, assault, and you probably will not get off at your wanted stop. If you get off with those who were in your party and any luggage is gambling at best. An experience that will not be forgotten.
Red flag laws for politicians who propose anything that violates the Constitution.
Violation proven by a panel of 3 constitutional judges
Perpetrator is returned to private life for life
Industrial wood clippers and the rendering plant make a lot of sense also.
Not a Liberal, Demoncrat, not a Republican, but I’d vote for her for that!
Unfortunately, we have laws on politicians. They are rarely enforced and prosecuted.
With cars, you decide where to go and when. With government-owned mass transit, the government limits your choices and wastes your time – and even more when it’s a train. Even back when the passenger trains were privately owned and mostly unregulated, Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote, “The train is in the saddle and rides mankind.”
The other thing is, North American railroads have been optimized for freight. Compared to Europe, we ship a much higher percentage of our freight by rail, and a lower percentage by roads[1]. This saves A LOT of fuel (and carbon emissions, if you think we should care about that). I suspect our greater use of rail freight pretty much balances out the carbon emissions Europeans save by taking buses and trains instead of driving. And I think most of them aren’t doing that voluntarily – high taxes and an over-taxed and over-regulated economy leave half of them too poor to buy a car, and many of the wealthier commuters are forced into mass transit by government policies limiting parking and road capacity.
[1] Europe has a substantially higher portion of it’s freight traffic going by ships, which is even more efficient than rail, but the geographies are quite different. Europe is a cluster of peninsulas around a barely populated central mountain mass. North American has most of the land far from the sea, and aside from the Great Lakes area and Mississippi valley, most of it not even accessible to _small_ ocean-going ships, lake freighters, or river barges. We might have a little more freight going by coastal freighters if foreign-flagged ships (exempted from many ridiculous American regulations) were allowed to carry freight between American ports without stopping at a foreign port in between, but it would not have much impact – by my count, only 23 states – including nearly all the small ones – have a sea-coast at all, and even within those, very little industry or warehousing is directly on the water. Even for containerized and bulk freight, it costs to load from trucks or trains to a ship and then off-load to land transport again, so coastal shipping is only going to used for longer distances.
When was the last time a politician showed an common sense.
Politicians follow what they are told.
The progressives, Marxists, Muslims, and many others only say what they think will win.
Then that allegedly “common sense compromise law” is placed as the benchmark to move the law, argument, or conquest a little farther. There never is a common sense law that they agreed to that is any longer acceptable the moment after a workable agreement may have been reached.
It is war. Diplomats and lawmakers are part of that war even if they are just following orders.
Senator Chuckie, Speaker Pelosi, the retired Rep Speaker, and many others are just mouthpieces in the war against the people.
Some have been forced to the good side.
EVRYthing that happens results in laws taking away the people’s freedom and liberty, should we permit it.
Those girls could make this LARP, but seriously played, a real fun time. These women might even achieve some good things by getting ideas and facts out to the people.
Skye really pointed out who is acting on and supporting the problems and the creation of more problems. Humor is strong for the good force.
Screw Georgie boy Lucas, that plagiarizing piece of feces.