Y’know, that’s just frightening enough to be prescient. Would like to know what is your back door into the regime, Chris. On second thought no, I don’t.
November cannot get here soon enough.
Heck yes. They’re the ones who don’t like America, let them build their communist utopia and leave the rest of us alone.
Thank God I live in Texas.
February 21, 2016 at 12:55 am
eon
The trouble is that, as Peggy Noonan pointed out in her column today, progressives are never satisfied. They always want “More”.
More power for themselves.
More restrictions on everyone else.
More control of everything.
If they ever had absolute power over everything, I believe they would start killing people at random to reassure themselves that the power could not be taken away from them no matter what they did.
They might do it anyway. After all, they’ve spent the last century or so hating the rest of humanity for not being as enlightened as they are.
When somebody thinks they are the heir of Plato, it’s very difficult to convince them that they are not entitled to be a philosopher-king.
clear ether
eon
February 21, 2016 at 2:22 am
B Woodman
Peggy Noonan said that? That’s one in a row for her.
February 21, 2016 at 4:34 pm
H_B
Eon, you don’t have to speculate about that. Historically, that’s exactly what Stalin did. And Mussolini. And then Mao went and over-achieved all of his peers on that score with the Cultural Revolution.
February 21, 2016 at 1:42 pm
Ed Woods
The Rejected States of America
February 21, 2016 at 1:01 am
Polly Cy
We should threaten to run a “thin blue line” of secession from North Dakota through Texas, effectively cutting the west and east coasts off from each other. I suppose if they talk pretty to us, we could let Colorado and Oklahoma join, but Colorado would have to purge all those Colofornians from Denver first. Hey, it works for Quebec. They brought Ottawa to its knees threatening the same thing.
February 21, 2016 at 1:17 am
B Woodman
And what about Utah, pretty Polly? Like most purple states, once you get outside the big cities (Salt Lake City, in this case), the rest of the state is very, very red.
February 21, 2016 at 1:39 am
Polly Cy
Well, of course Utah would be welcome, as would Wyoming (my personal pick for the most gorgeous of the 50 states) and Montana. But to be effective, the states need to be in a tight, contiguous formation. Any flanks in the air, so to speak, create vulnerabilities. Utah might have to wait for a few months, particularly if Colorado doesn’t work out.
I take it I wrote something wrong. Not only did I disappear, but Polly Cy, who answered me, got kicked to the bottom of the comments. I didn’t think that stuff happened here.
February 21, 2016 at 3:11 pm
Chris Muir
There’s honest, direct commenting and there is rude. Your last comment was rude and thus excised.I appreciate honesty and directness, but keep it civil here.
February 21, 2016 at 9:57 am
Otto Didact
Don’t you mean “Colonformians”, Poly?
February 21, 2016 at 11:05 am
Polly Cy
Ah, what a difference that N makes. Well played, Otto.
February 21, 2016 at 10:22 am
billf
Wow,Polly,I like you more and more.I’ve been in every state except Hawaii,and Wyoming is my favorite by far.Least population density,mountains and wildlife,etc.
I’ve lived all over,I’m in NC now (California of the east coast).
I would propose instead of a thin blue line,a thick blue line,include Oklahoma,Wyoming,Montana,Utah and Colorado.That will give us enough land and natural resources,and eventually the libs will move back to California.
February 21, 2016 at 11:21 am
Polly Cy
Shucks, Bill, you’re making me blush. And what a tactful way of encouraging me to expand my vision. Geopolitical Polly got a bit carried away and Chess Coach Polly can be a bit ruthless. As long as we can hold the center, adding states is good.
February 22, 2016 at 11:23 pm
Th30 Moore
In addition, Wyoming has the highest per centage of people allowed to own machine guns. Most fun I ever had was a quad fifty while I was in Korea (training only).
February 21, 2016 at 10:39 am
Immanuel Goldstein
This talk of dividing the country up is divisive and silly. I live in California, and I can tell you that there are plenty of good conservatives and libertarians in this state. California is pretty much like the rest of the country; vast stretches of red punctuated by small by highly concentrated blue areas in LA and the bay area. Likewise, if you get out of New York city or Chicago, the rest of New York state and Illinois is pretty conservative. let’s fight for this country. All of it.
I must say, that’s going to be a serious chore, but that’s the plan. Going all Nagasaki on the blue centers would work the best.
February 21, 2016 at 11:07 am
Polly Cy
Why, thank you! I aspire to be silly as often as possible.
February 21, 2016 at 4:51 pm
H_B
I’ll repeat the numbers I’ve said on here several times: there are approximately 800,000 police officers in the US. There are approximately 1.4 million active service members for the US (many not on the continent). Even if you assume that all of those will fight for a socialist regime, the (very) low ball estimate for American gun owners is 80 million. Many of those are trained former-military, and even if only 10% of those took up arms, they still outnumber the regime’s potential defenders by an order of magnitude.
But in reality, the government has already alienated its own potential instruments of control – most recently with the Benghazi-abandonment and the Blue-Lives-Don’t-Matter campaign. Most of them will not follow orders to fight against citizens, any more than New York was able to carry out its 2013-mandated “assault weapons” confiscation.
Throwing down a ruling class in the major cities (metropolii?) will be far easier than drawing lines across the terrain and dividing the country.
It would be ugly, and I hope it doesn’t come to it for all the pain associated, but with each new outrage I think “forgive them, God, they know not what they invite…”
February 21, 2016 at 1:51 pm
Ed Woods
Major error in that. Most of Oregon and Washington are actually very conservative. The problem lies primarily west of the Cascades. In Washington it is the four or five counties out if thirty-nine that make up the Puget Sound area. Oregon us poisoned by the Portland/Valley area, again just four or five counties out if thirty-five. The cure for that us nit tissubg the while thing, but instead to rotate the border between them to a North/South orientation roughly along the Cascade Crest.. The same number of total reps, senators and such. That would leave on insignificant liberal state and a very staunchly conservative state. Much better deal and fairer representation.
February 22, 2016 at 11:01 am
Desert Lion
If elections were based on territory, we’d never have been in this situation in the first place. But it’s not. Fortunately, we still have some aspect of territory included so long as we still have the Senate (even after the damage done by the 17th Amendment) and Electoral College. Most of the country believes in the Constitution using the meaning of the words as they were understood by those who authored and ratified them, just not most of the people.
And, frankly, I don’t want it to be fair. We’ve had far too many bad policies crafted based on fairness. This is a life or death struggle for this Republic – if you’re in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
It’s very much time for Constitutional Originalist Textualists to make very certain that November is a watershed election. There will still be pockets of stupidity; leave them to their own devices with no Federal support. Their demands should ring hollow in their own ears while liberty rings everywhere else.
February 20, 2016 at 11:01 pm
KenH
Ah what a face
The Face you would NEVER tire of hitting with a fire axe….
Like Ron Brown?
One reason why there was no autopsy at Bethesda or the other military hospital in the area of that important person recently.
They still record the truth of what they find.
I cannot even imagine them coming and taking our BBQ. Much less even trying to come and take it. But I could not imagine many things that have happened recently even just a few years ago. But many of the ones that I did imagine did come to pass. Sadly.
Pooch is greasy and stringy, like opossum. Had some amongst the montagnards in Nam. Washed down with magai.
February 21, 2016 at 1:01 am
eon
They’re like a Cacklogallinian Euell Gibbons.
“EAT ROOTS AND LEAVES!!!”
(“But only those which can be proven to have died of natural causes.”)
That’s why I’m not against progressives using drugs. I think they’re much less dangerous to everyone else when they’re on hallucinogens, going “WHAAA!!”, and bashing their heads into walls.
As opposed to teaching at colleges. Or writing laws.
Or demanding the the Second and Third Laws of Thermodynamics be repealed so that their “green energy” plans will suddenly work.
Crazy does not equal stupid. But when they occur together in the same cult, look out.
You forgot the square-cube law, which ultimately underlies the economics of mass production of energy and most materials. (e.g. energy production increases as the volume of the furnace. capital cost increases as the surface area – cost of the pot, if you will – of the furnace. Cost per unit production thereby decreases as (surface area)/volume ~ a^2/a^3 ~ 1/a, or the inverse of the (mean) size of the furnace. Whereas the cost of solar or wind is always directly proportional to the area covered by panels or windmills with no economies of scale.
February 21, 2016 at 2:39 am
Pamela
Tots-only if he could get away with it
eon-eat fruits nuts and flakes. sounds like the makings of an orgy for the proglibs and their acolytes.
TJ-if they thought burning donkey and camel dung was good for the environs, they would insist on tax breaks for scheit.
February 21, 2016 at 9:45 am
MasterDiver
Pamela: The Progs won’t be happy until donkey and camel dung are the only energy sources the prols are allowed(for our caves and mud huts).
February 21, 2016 at 4:59 pm
H_B
Eon,: “I just think the legal hurdles to make this project work are insurmountable. How do you plan to repeal the second and third laws of thermodynamics?”
Line officially stolen from you!
February 20, 2016 at 11:57 pm
Odgreen
Sorry, a con-con is only going to pummel, burn and blow away the ashes of what was once the Bill of Rights. These commie lib-tards won’t obey the Constitution as it is written now, what makes you think they’ll obey it during a Con-con? Buh bye 1st Amendment, Buh bye 2nd Amendment. Take me back to the Articles of Confederation, Liberty the way it was intended to be.
However, remember that changes require three-quarters of states to agree.
February 22, 2016 at 11:13 am
Desert Lion
Opening the full Constitution to a convention would be a disaster. Creating a limited convention to address a specific issue has also been proposed, also a bad idea with smaller scope. The last vestiges of wisdom left from the Founders is the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Opening that to current societal and international influences is even more stupid than what has already been done.
There certainly are some changes that could be made – like repealing several of the later amendments. The process in place for states to bring amendments to the Republic without Congress is more than enough power to get them started without opening any portion to the whims of national politics. There are more than enough bad ideas out there – like adding amendments for a balanced budget or forcing religious principles be adhered to by all – without adding this one to the mix.
Why would anyone grill rotted road kill next November?
There are far too many starving carrion birds who need our help and providing trussed turkeys at a convenient height for pecking is surely the least we can do. Then there are the declining populations of sharks ….
For once the leftists can serve a positive function.
Oh, that pinche puta putz thinks he knows something about high blood pressure, does he? Sure he does. I’ll just bet he too biology some place, somewhere.
Here you go: smoked sausage w/barbecue beans, done in the crock pot.
2 cans of red kidney or cannellini beans, or one of each
1 jar of yo’ favorite barbecue sauce (I like Sweet Baby Ray’s with a little sharp mustard added, maybe some Worcestershire, too)
1 whole fresh onion, chopped
2 loops of smoked sausage = beef, pork, turkey, whatever – your choice
Rinse the beans and put in the crock pot. Add 3/4 of the chopped onion and at least half of the Barbecue sauce, stir well, and put the smoked sausage on the top.
Cover it. Turn the crockpot on high and let it gestate for 5 to 6 hours. And don’t lift the lid while it’s cooking.
Plate it. Include cornbread your way or catshead biscuits and plenty of butter. Add yo’ fave fresh veggies on the side. Pick your favorite dessert item for dessert.
I’ve lost weight eating food like this. My jeans will no longer stay on my hips without help, and my blood pressure? 122 over 70. I just had my senior birthday. I’m going to outlive those asswipes and enjoy every minute of it.
Enjoy life, and tell that asshole in WDC and the birch pursuing his job to go pound sand up their butts sideways. How? Get off your dead asses and go to the primaries and vote this spring and then go vote in the fall.
Actually, we’re just friends. We share stuff like that. She sent to me. I’m sharing it with you. Not about that cornbread… LOTS of cornbread, with LOTS of butter.
February 21, 2016 at 2:32 am
Pamela
Delilah T
No need to insult the working ladies of the night in comparing them to that no account can’t say who is daddy is dope smoking fiend.
No, I’ve pretty much kept it on sober ingredients. But since it’s RED MEAT (gasp!!!) I see no harm in adding a little fine red wine to the mix, maybe a good burgundy?
February 21, 2016 at 3:45 pm
Polly Cy
I was right there with you until that, “Don’t lift the lid” thing. Now that’s just humanly impossible.
Forgot desert again, I see.
Chocolate Lava Muffins
Ingredients
• 8 ounces semisweet chocolate chips
• 1 stick butter
• 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
• 1/2 cup sugar
• 3 tablespoons flour
• 1/4 teaspoon salt
• 4 eggs
• Butter, to coat muffin tin
• 1 tablespoon cocoa powder
• 1 cup vanilla ice cream
• 1 teaspoon espresso powder
Directions
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees F.
Place a small metal bowl over a saucepan with simmering water. Melt the chocolate and butter in the bowl. Stir in vanilla.
In a large mixing bowl, combine sugar, flour and salt. Sift these into the chocolate and mix well with electric hand mixer. Add eggs one at time, fully incorporating each egg before adding the next. Beat at high until batter is creamy and lightens in color, approximately 4 minutes. Chill mixture.
Coat the top and each cup of the muffin tin with butter. Dust with the cocoa powder and shake out excess. Spoon mixture into pan using a 4-ounce scoop or ladle. Bake for 10 to 11 minutes. Outsides should be cake-like and centers should be gooey.
While muffins are in oven, melt the ice cream in a small saucepan. Stir in the espresso powder. Serve over warm muffins.
Not in Moochs school lunch menu they aren’t.
Whole wheat flour, fat and sugar free.
Two inches in length. (curious. hmm)
Make great hockey pucks.
February 21, 2016 at 12:17 am
billf
I realize that this is supposed to be satire,but considering the past 7 years,nothing the One says now would surprise me.
We can’t be rid of him fast enough for me.
I heard recently that he’s provoked the EPA into legislating BBQ grills out of existence unless they’re equipped with a catalytic converter to cleanse the air of the offensive odors they produce. Check out the lib-tard immigrants from Cal. into the Austin, TX area filing suits against the BBQ joints smoking out their neighborhoods. Even though the offending restaurants were there long before the ‘tards moved into the area, they claim that their “rights” are being infringed upon. F*ck the Doomed !!!!!
I’ve said in other instances of libtardism: You don’t like it, leave. Who in the hell do you think you are to move into a neighborhood and demand it be changed for you?
But, but you have to understand. Nobody told ’em about the noise before hand. How were they supposed to know that the plains would be so loud?
Ask a pilot about the wonderful noise reduction measures for climbout that the FAA mandates because of those idiots. Reducing power and increasing ascent angle is not the optimum way to climb out. Ask a pilot how close to stalling out and doing a rock imitation they come every time they depart an airport where such procedures are mandated.
February 21, 2016 at 5:59 pm
Pete in NC
Apparently noise limitation doesn’t include the screams during the rock imitation… I try not to think of this when I or any of mine are flying out of any major airport (LAX, Boston/Logan, or Providence).
I’m not sure halal is all that different from kosher. Either one would forbid tasty pork. Big Mo mostly cribbed his stuff from Jews and Christians, you know.
(Interesting note: encountering muslims – even relatively smart, well-educated ones – from N Africa and the ME, they will insist to you that the Koran was written before the Christian Bible and independent of it, despite massive historical evidence to the contrary. Much like progressivism, islam is a cult that requires most of it adherents to be flamingly ignorant of history.)
Mohamed was born in AD 570, received his “revelation” in AD 613, and preached until his death in AD 632. The Qu’ran is basically his preachings written down with commentaries by later hands.
When confronted by this, most Islamic “scholars” go into “yes, but” mode, in my experience.
It’s interesting to note that before his “enlightenment”, delivered by the archangel Gabriel (well, that’s what he said), the prophet engaged in caravan raiding, slaving, theft, murder, and the rape of underage girls. (He called it “marriage”.)
After said enlightenment, he continued to do the same on the grounds that God (via Gabriel) was OK with his lifestyle. as long as only non-“believers” (in his new faith) were the targets thereof.
It makes me wonder who he was really talking to, as opposed to who he thought he was conversing with.
clear ether
eon
February 21, 2016 at 10:36 am
Pamela
He was talking to the results of Poppies Poppies Poppies.
The Silk Road brought amazing objects of rarity, and goods in the form of spices, exotic slaves, silks and drugs.
Never trust the ravings of a stoner.
How evil must a man be if all his wives got together and poisoned him? Or so goes the tale.
February 21, 2016 at 6:16 pm
Pete in NC
Pamela, the story I read recently (maybe I’ll even remember where) was that after conquering a Jewish town, murdering the men, etc., a Jewess (widowed BY MO) offered to cook him his favorite meal, lamb. She deliberately poisoned his favorite part, the foreleg, with a massive overdose. The idea was that if he REALLY was a prophet, G_d would tell him beforehand that the meat was poisoned. He chewed on it for a bit, then spat it out saying “this bone has warned me it was poison”. A close relative of his, also ate the meat but didn’t spit it out to avoid disturbing the prophet’s appetite, but also remarked that the meat tasted awful. Relative died that night, Mo took a couple years but insisted on his deathbed that it was the poison that did it. Apparently heart failure was too embarrassing an option. Therefore by his own admission proving the Jewess right, he was not a prophet. Ooops.
Makes sense, a tit-bit of truth to support a mountain of lies.
February 21, 2016 at 1:29 pm
Toad
eon
the prophet engaged in caravan raiding, slaving, theft, murder, and the rape of underage girls. (He called it “marriage”.)
GWB is correct, most everything he wrote was cribbed from the Torah and modified to suit his tastes. Strongly advise you not to make an argument comparing islam with Christianity on this issue before doing a thorough study of Genesis 2:24, Exodus 22:16-17, Numbers 30 and Deuteronomy 22.
What the Bible says about it is this: If a man seduces a virgin that isn’t engaged to be married and takes her virginity, he’s married to her. If he was already married, he now has two wives. If her father doesn’t like it, he can annul their marriage. Not only that, but if the man seizes said virgin and takes her by force they are married. If they are discovered (meaning, the fact she was *forced* is public), the father cannot annul the marriage and the man cannot ever divorce her.
In fact, a careful study of Deuteronomy 22 demonstrates that as far as God’s Law is concerned, “rape” is a crime that can only be committed against a married woman and there is a serious question as to whether it’s actually the crime of “rape” or rather a case of “forced adultery” that leads to the death penalty.
I’m not here to argue this, I’m just pointing out what the Bible actually says is in *serious* disagreement with what most X-ians think it says. Do not suppose for even a moment that I am in any way supporting Islam or their so-called “sacred” texts. I’m not. What you said implies that Christianity is different in this respect, and it both is and isn’t, which Chris has already illustrated in a couple of panels back in 2010. Here’s the setup:
Rather than trying to make a moral argument comparing islam vs Christianity, make the comparison between islam and the right of people to choose their laws and enforce them regardless of theology. That done, the whole discussion devolves to the point that muzzies in the US need to go. It’s very simple- anyone who professes the faith of islam needs to be ejected because they don’t belong here and will *never* fit in with the system of law (Christian) we have in the US… because their faith *forbids* it.
For those who refuse to leave, they should be treated in accordance with their own Sharia law, which specifically allows slavery (as does the Bible). For those who decide to fight, hunting licenses are an appropriate solution.
tl; dr
Muzzies cannot and will not ever be assimilated into the US culture and legal system because of what the Qu’ran commands them. In other words, the teachings of their faith will not allow it. When Trump gets done building his wall, muzzies need to be lined up at the gate, put in the exit lane and shoved out, never to be allowed back in.
We’re talking about gangrene here: cut it off or die.
February 21, 2016 at 11:56 am
interventor
Mohammed cribbed from old and new testaments. He forbade followers from reading them for obvious reasons.
February 21, 2016 at 5:23 pm
H_B
GWB, this is a common error that non-muslims make about islam. They presume that, since islam was developed after Judaism and Christianity, it is a derivative of those religions. Further, since islam lumps Judaism and Christianity into “people of the book”, they assume muslims hold some respect for their religion. Neither Is True.
According to islam, the religions of Judaism and Christianity were world for word what mohammed wrote in the korran. However, evil people “corrupted” those texts into the “twisted perversions” they now are. As “people of the book”, it is remotely possible that they can be redeemed and made to behave correctly. But Christians or Jews as Christians or Jews are hopelessly corrupt, in breach of god’s law, and worthy of only contempt and death.
February 21, 2016 at 5:30 pm
H_B
They presume that, since islam was developed after Judaism and Christianity, it is a derivative of those religions *and seen as such by muslims.
I love that depiction of ‘Teh One’, it would go great next to that newly created National Socialist design created for Bernie.
Regarding a Con-Con, it’s my understanding that it’s actions can only be with regards to the subject that are enumerated in the various State’s acts that created it and that it is being held only to strengthen Article 10 and so limit the Feds.
Chris,
I’d steer clear of any Constitutional Convention. You know what happened to the Articles of Confederation back in 1787: They were tossed out, in secret, and the present Constitution was formulated.
Out Constitution will be tossed in the same manner as I do not trust ANY of our present day ‘legislators’ to do the right thing. There isn’t a ‘Founding Father’ caliber one among the entire panoply of Republicrats.
The Bill of Rights will be the first to go.
So what are you suggesting, Willik? That someone whose popularity level has dropped significantly since his first term in office is doing anything more than drifting along toward the end of this one? Has it occurred to you that he just doesn’t give a shit about the job at all? Not even enough to do it properly? Or are you forgetting that shrillary has switched ass from back to front to back again during her campaign and is now sucking up to that asshole, where before she was slamming him?
You are right in that there are no Federalists in view right now, but this is not the Regency Period, either, and the Brits made war on the USA twice, first during the War of Independence and later, during the Napoleonic wars. Or did you not know about the French & Indian Wars? Did they leave that out of your history books in school?
Not everyone in Congress is as dishonest as puglosi and her ilk. And if the only choices the democraps can offer are Bernie and shrillary, then they’re sitting on their hands for a reason. Bodaprez is a bigger embarrassment than anyone else they have ever fielded. He almost makes Tricky Dick Nixon, who lied like a dog, seem like a saint. Nixon at least gave a damn about the job.
February 21, 2016 at 9:16 pm
Old Codger
Assume, for the sake of argument, that a Con Con were held and the left did NOT hijack it and produce some abomination such as Ruth Bader Ginsburg believes it should look like. Assume that the con cleans up the constitution; removes the – for many folks – offensive amendments and even strengthens the prohibition against the central government taking power not explicitly granted it. Then what?
The left doesn’t obey the constitution we HAVE NOW. What makes you think they would conform to an even more restrictive one? A constitution – like statutes, rules and regulations – is just words on paper. Words on paper do not – AND CAN NOT – modify human behavior. People only conform to the law (or regulations or rules) when it is convenient (or perhaps not too inconvenient). The real difference between criminals and so-called “law abiding” people is the threshold of inconvenience sufficient to disobey. Heck! What is “civil disobedience” but refusing to obey a law with which a person or group of persons disagree? The so-called “rule of law” is a pipe dream; and illusion.
February 21, 2016 at 12:04 pm
interventor
Best bet is to threaten one. Congress will be more agreeable to small changes.
A Convention of the States would be called to consider a pre-set agenda of proposed amendments; it strikes me that it would be rather difficult to add to or amend that agenda. And don’t forget that any proposed amendment(s) coming out of the Convention would still require ratification by three fourths of the states. Getting 34 states to ratify inimical amendments – especially if a time limit were to be imposed – beggars the laws of probability. Your fears are ungrounded if not somewhat irrational.
A Convention of the States would be called to consider a pre-set agenda of proposed amendments; it strikes me that it would be rather difficult to add to or amend that agenda.
Read up on the Articles of Confederation and the convention which produced our current constitution and come back and spout that nonsense again.
February 21, 2016 at 4:44 pm
Ozymandias
I couldn’t agree with you more, Willik. If you think the problem is bad, wait until you see their solution.
Call it “BBQ” if you will, but if you spell it out, it’s “barbecue”! This Grammar
Nazi cringes behind his pulled pork sandwich every time he sees that non-existent word, “barbeque”. The commenters and even auto-complete knows there is no such word. Just because it exists on signs and bottles doesn’t make it right. #noObamawords
You know, when you start that panicky stuff about that lazy-assed twigdick in the White House, you forget that only thing he gives a flying fart in space about is his crappy golf game. He doesn’t even care enough about his ‘legacy’ (whatever that is) to go to Chicago and ‘fight’ for his library. The cost of that edifice will run around $500 million. The funding so far is barely $5 million. His presidential library may simply become another section in the Chicago Public Library downtown. That’s a lot less expensive in a state that is overwhelmed with debt.
So if he doesn’t even care about that, do you think he gives enough of a shit to do something that would send his popularity score even further into the toilet? I don’t. He’s too damned lazy for that. He just wants to go play golf, and if he ends up in Hawaii, fine by me. If he ends up in whatever ME country where he’s rumored to have a dwelling, fine by me.
He’s a slacker who looks good in a suit. That ‘s about it. That’s his ‘legacy’. That’s how he should be remembered after he leaves office.
Why wouldn’t everything BHO has read not fit in the Chi- town main library annex? most would come from the TelePrompter Corporation files…
Remember this man didn’t read the US CON. or even his “autobiographies”….
they’ll need a map room for the Map of the “Fifty-Seven States of the Union, and a blank wall showing all the Nations he help bring Peace to, with the Nobel Peace Prize centered in the Void….. The longest list of Nations will be those that are now nuclear powers thanks to his inaction and actions.
Maybe if some of you would stop calling it a “con-con” and call it what it is, a Convention of States, you would begin to understand why it’s the only answer that has any chance of saving the country .Do you honestly that 38 states will agree to the destruction of the country? A Convention of States is called for a specific purpose, it’s not anything is up for grabs .
The Constitution was a great experiment that failed. As a guy named Lysander Spooner wrote a century and a half ago (before the New Deal, even):
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
The enduring myth is that one day we’ll have “the right” politicians to make it all work, which should be laughable at this point. And even if it did, by some miracle, occur… then we’d have a very brief respite before returning to a few centuries of things getting worse.
The glaring problem with this argument is that Spooner is using the same conceptual argument as the gun grabbers.
“It’s the guns, the guns are bad. Ban all guns.”
Does (did) Mr Spooner, whom I otherwise admire, actually think that ANYONE expected a piece of parchment to stand up by itself and march into the halls of Congress and Insist on the, bought and paid for, jackels to behave and follow the “Law of the Land”? Really?
Do I need to chain my rifles to their gun racks? Will they band together and kill me in my sleep? Sheesh …
The Republic was designed to be an active participation program and when in the late 1780’s (date is approximate) Congress allowed the elected office holders to be paid for their “labors” (strongly cautioned against by B. Franklin) we began having an influx of financial parasites, thieves, who formed “parties” (strongly cautioned against by G. Washington) to support each others thieving ways.
At about the same time the general public began to believe the hogwash that the thieves were spouting and sat back to let the thieves “take care of the countries business for you.” “Don’t worry we’ve got it.” (To be fair … Life was much harder then, compared to now, so it is understandable but not forgivable.)
And without active participation by the general public and after many “special corrections” being made to the regulations (allowing the thieves to make their own rules the Constitution be damned) we arrive where we are now.
“A Republic Madame, If we can keep it.” B. Franklin
Blaming the piece parchment for OUR laziness and the politicians greed is using the same mindset as the gun grabbers.
Please use your “little gray cells” for something besides ear separation.
“In all thy getting be certain to get Wisdom.”
Blaming the piece OF parchment for OUR laziness
Oopsie
February 21, 2016 at 10:05 pm
interventor
Problem with not paying is rich only holding office. Unless, extreme part time only. No problem with that.
February 21, 2016 at 2:26 pm
JohninMd.(Help!?!!)
$500 million, for an outhouse with a book shelf? Say it ain’t so….. It’ll never be, to make the docs of this Admin. available would invite too many indictments…. Hopefully. (I know, I’m an optimist…) As for Obummer, banning ‘cue, we aughta wrap that cowpaddy in a pigskin and see if he bursts into flame….
I have just finished reading the comments above and the “speech” exerpt that Chris linked to and I did notice that … No one has yet mentioned that anyone, with even a dial-up connection, can within an hour refute Every. Single. Statement. he made in the speech. You know the MSM won’t.
Just sayin’ …
Con-con = No-no.
Until such time as we can purge the halls of congress, and the white house, of the collectivist, power drunk, greed motivated, traitorous elected personnel and a major portion of the tax funded, parasitic, “support staffs” as well we cannot give the entrenched leeches the opportunity to scrap the advances we have made. (Bill of Rights, etc)
I, also, would, personally, like to see the Original Agreement that was signed by all of the States reinstated. The Articles of Confederation. www dot usconstitution dot net/articles dot html
(I didn’t ask if I could post a link so fix it for yourself if you would read the actual thing.)
PROVIDED that the Bill of Rights is kept as is. Amendments 11 through 27 can be debated and a goodly portion of them scraped. (The 14th and 17th come to mind instantly.)
To those who are adamantly and unconditionally opposed to a con-con, as I said near the top of the thread, I too have always been very wary of popping the top on that can of worms. But here’s the thing; if events this November go wrong, there may be no choice if we are to survive. If the path and plan of replacing us as citizens and voters with immigrants whose only loyalty is to their own enrichment by taking what is ours, eliminating our culture and replacing it with their own, and the payback and perpetuation of that what brought ’em here is allowed to continue unopposed and unabated, the Republic will be done and there is nothing in that Constitution that will matter anyway.
So. If the beast that would replace the hideous devil depicted here in Chris’ toon has her chance, she will replicate and expediate what he has started…and of course if that little commie scum gets in, in practice the constitution will become a twisted manifesto. So at that point, what exactly are we saving? What provisions within it will save us or itself? Consider the sealed and protected contents of that can spoiled at that point, yet if it is opened while still fresh, at least there is the chance that it can be reconstituted, as it were, into something that will allow us to keep it and us secure going forward.
And if not, if the concerns that opening the can allows its contents to be gobbled up and destroyed, or so altered with additives as to render it poisonous…well, that’s why I also said that secession would be on the table. A new consortium of freedom and liberty minded libertarians bound not necessarily by contiguous borders but by their hearts and minds and wills…islands of red in an ocean of blue if you will, and my feeling is that very large red islands will encompass military might, natural resources, and economic power to make the alliance work.
Far-fetched? I hope so. But if the time comes when the morlock leaders control the sirens, the machines, our assets, and our ability to resist them, then it may be a more realistic, necessary, and even desirable scenario than we can imagine right now.
All an Article v convention does is give the states the power to do what any sitting Congress can do at any – propose amendments. If you want to worry, worry what Congress might do.
Lets refer against the BHO “Change my Diaper NOW!”
Doesn’t like what some Americans are doing? Check.
Complains bout it on TV? Check.
Wants to use the ham-handed approach of Government to fix a problem that only exists in his Twice-Dipped-in-Ivy-League-Shyte for brain? Checkidy, Check-check!
I keep saying “If you think this pumpkin is annoying now wait until he’s OUT of office and able to share his Whiny Wisdom of Zilch with the masses.
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Black bottom girls make the world go round
Uh did get lyrics wrong?
Chris; Can we get a poster of that ‘PDQ’ face?
I want to scare the kids away next halloween.
Y’know, that’s just frightening enough to be prescient. Would like to know what is your back door into the regime, Chris. On second thought no, I don’t.
November cannot get here soon enough.
If it is prescient, if this regime is extended and compounded in November…
Well, I’ve always been against a con-con, concerned about the unintended consequences of worms when that can is opened.
But if that happens, I’m in. And secession will be on the table.
Rather, just kick the Lib states out.
Heck yes. They’re the ones who don’t like America, let them build their communist utopia and leave the rest of us alone.
Thank God I live in Texas.
The trouble is that, as Peggy Noonan pointed out in her column today, progressives are never satisfied. They always want “More”.
More power for themselves.
More restrictions on everyone else.
More control of everything.
If they ever had absolute power over everything, I believe they would start killing people at random to reassure themselves that the power could not be taken away from them no matter what they did.
They might do it anyway. After all, they’ve spent the last century or so hating the rest of humanity for not being as enlightened as they are.
When somebody thinks they are the heir of Plato, it’s very difficult to convince them that they are not entitled to be a philosopher-king.
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eon
Peggy Noonan said that? That’s one in a row for her.
Eon, you don’t have to speculate about that. Historically, that’s exactly what Stalin did. And Mussolini. And then Mao went and over-achieved all of his peers on that score with the Cultural Revolution.
The Rejected States of America
We should threaten to run a “thin blue line” of secession from North Dakota through Texas, effectively cutting the west and east coasts off from each other. I suppose if they talk pretty to us, we could let Colorado and Oklahoma join, but Colorado would have to purge all those Colofornians from Denver first. Hey, it works for Quebec. They brought Ottawa to its knees threatening the same thing.
And what about Utah, pretty Polly? Like most purple states, once you get outside the big cities (Salt Lake City, in this case), the rest of the state is very, very red.
Well, of course Utah would be welcome, as would Wyoming (my personal pick for the most gorgeous of the 50 states) and Montana. But to be effective, the states need to be in a tight, contiguous formation. Any flanks in the air, so to speak, create vulnerabilities. Utah might have to wait for a few months, particularly if Colorado doesn’t work out.
Consider the fate of the Paris commune.
I’m from Nebraska. ‘Nuff said.
I take it I wrote something wrong. Not only did I disappear, but Polly Cy, who answered me, got kicked to the bottom of the comments. I didn’t think that stuff happened here.
There’s honest, direct commenting and there is rude. Your last comment was rude and thus excised.I appreciate honesty and directness, but keep it civil here.
Don’t you mean “Colonformians”, Poly?
Ah, what a difference that N makes. Well played, Otto.
Wow,Polly,I like you more and more.I’ve been in every state except Hawaii,and Wyoming is my favorite by far.Least population density,mountains and wildlife,etc.
I’ve lived all over,I’m in NC now (California of the east coast).
I would propose instead of a thin blue line,a thick blue line,include Oklahoma,Wyoming,Montana,Utah and Colorado.That will give us enough land and natural resources,and eventually the libs will move back to California.
Shucks, Bill, you’re making me blush. And what a tactful way of encouraging me to expand my vision. Geopolitical Polly got a bit carried away and Chess Coach Polly can be a bit ruthless. As long as we can hold the center, adding states is good.
In addition, Wyoming has the highest per centage of people allowed to own machine guns. Most fun I ever had was a quad fifty while I was in Korea (training only).
This talk of dividing the country up is divisive and silly. I live in California, and I can tell you that there are plenty of good conservatives and libertarians in this state. California is pretty much like the rest of the country; vast stretches of red punctuated by small by highly concentrated blue areas in LA and the bay area. Likewise, if you get out of New York city or Chicago, the rest of New York state and Illinois is pretty conservative. let’s fight for this country. All of it.
“let’s fight for this country. All of it.”
PLAN!
I must say, that’s going to be a serious chore, but that’s the plan. Going all Nagasaki on the blue centers would work the best.
Why, thank you! I aspire to be silly as often as possible.
I’ll repeat the numbers I’ve said on here several times: there are approximately 800,000 police officers in the US. There are approximately 1.4 million active service members for the US (many not on the continent). Even if you assume that all of those will fight for a socialist regime, the (very) low ball estimate for American gun owners is 80 million. Many of those are trained former-military, and even if only 10% of those took up arms, they still outnumber the regime’s potential defenders by an order of magnitude.
But in reality, the government has already alienated its own potential instruments of control – most recently with the Benghazi-abandonment and the Blue-Lives-Don’t-Matter campaign. Most of them will not follow orders to fight against citizens, any more than New York was able to carry out its 2013-mandated “assault weapons” confiscation.
Throwing down a ruling class in the major cities (metropolii?) will be far easier than drawing lines across the terrain and dividing the country.
It would be ugly, and I hope it doesn’t come to it for all the pain associated, but with each new outrage I think “forgive them, God, they know not what they invite…”
Major error in that. Most of Oregon and Washington are actually very conservative. The problem lies primarily west of the Cascades. In Washington it is the four or five counties out if thirty-nine that make up the Puget Sound area. Oregon us poisoned by the Portland/Valley area, again just four or five counties out if thirty-five. The cure for that us nit tissubg the while thing, but instead to rotate the border between them to a North/South orientation roughly along the Cascade Crest.. The same number of total reps, senators and such. That would leave on insignificant liberal state and a very staunchly conservative state. Much better deal and fairer representation.
If elections were based on territory, we’d never have been in this situation in the first place. But it’s not. Fortunately, we still have some aspect of territory included so long as we still have the Senate (even after the damage done by the 17th Amendment) and Electoral College. Most of the country believes in the Constitution using the meaning of the words as they were understood by those who authored and ratified them, just not most of the people.
And, frankly, I don’t want it to be fair. We’ve had far too many bad policies crafted based on fairness. This is a life or death struggle for this Republic – if you’re in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
It’s very much time for Constitutional Originalist Textualists to make very certain that November is a watershed election. There will still be pockets of stupidity; leave them to their own devices with no Federal support. Their demands should ring hollow in their own ears while liberty rings everywhere else.
Ah what a face
The Face you would NEVER tire of hitting with a fire axe….
Don’t know bout the fire axe but on paper it might be kinda fun to hit with a pellet gun.
NOT that I actually have, mind you, but it looks like it might be.
You forgot the horns, CM.
They’re nicely implied by the hairline, I thought.
Hey, you’re right! Shoulda known Chris wouldn’t miss Beelzebub’s defining feature.
Only grilled? Not drilled, say .45 or better.
Like Ron Brown?
One reason why there was no autopsy at Bethesda or the other military hospital in the area of that important person recently.
They still record the truth of what they find.
I cannot even imagine them coming and taking our BBQ. Much less even trying to come and take it. But I could not imagine many things that have happened recently even just a few years ago. But many of the ones that I did imagine did come to pass. Sadly.
BBQ as the spark. What a world!
I wish to hell something would. BBQ will do.
As the weeks wind down, will The One continue to race-bait as he’s done throughout His reign? Yeah, pretty much…
Leave it to the frickin’ zombie-in-chief to outlaw the sucking of sauce off of bones. If he can’t get it, no one does.
The Dems/Libs/Progs/Soci would outlaw anything enjoyable, then tax the leftovers to death.
Maybe if he could BBQ some dog?
Pooch is greasy and stringy, like opossum. Had some amongst the montagnards in Nam. Washed down with magai.
They’re like a Cacklogallinian Euell Gibbons.
“EAT ROOTS AND LEAVES!!!”
(“But only those which can be proven to have died of natural causes.”)
That’s why I’m not against progressives using drugs. I think they’re much less dangerous to everyone else when they’re on hallucinogens, going “WHAAA!!”, and bashing their heads into walls.
As opposed to teaching at colleges. Or writing laws.
Or demanding the the Second and Third Laws of Thermodynamics be repealed so that their “green energy” plans will suddenly work.
Crazy does not equal stupid. But when they occur together in the same cult, look out.
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eon
You forgot the square-cube law, which ultimately underlies the economics of mass production of energy and most materials. (e.g. energy production increases as the volume of the furnace. capital cost increases as the surface area – cost of the pot, if you will – of the furnace. Cost per unit production thereby decreases as (surface area)/volume ~ a^2/a^3 ~ 1/a, or the inverse of the (mean) size of the furnace. Whereas the cost of solar or wind is always directly proportional to the area covered by panels or windmills with no economies of scale.
Tots-only if he could get away with it
eon-eat fruits nuts and flakes. sounds like the makings of an orgy for the proglibs and their acolytes.
TJ-if they thought burning donkey and camel dung was good for the environs, they would insist on tax breaks for scheit.
Pamela: The Progs won’t be happy until donkey and camel dung are the only energy sources the prols are allowed(for our caves and mud huts).
Eon,: “I just think the legal hurdles to make this project work are insurmountable. How do you plan to repeal the second and third laws of thermodynamics?”
Line officially stolen from you!
Sorry, a con-con is only going to pummel, burn and blow away the ashes of what was once the Bill of Rights. These commie lib-tards won’t obey the Constitution as it is written now, what makes you think they’ll obey it during a Con-con? Buh bye 1st Amendment, Buh bye 2nd Amendment. Take me back to the Articles of Confederation, Liberty the way it was intended to be.
Same point I make every time somebody brings up a ConCon.
Yep, ‘fraid so.
However, remember that changes require three-quarters of states to agree.
Opening the full Constitution to a convention would be a disaster. Creating a limited convention to address a specific issue has also been proposed, also a bad idea with smaller scope. The last vestiges of wisdom left from the Founders is the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Opening that to current societal and international influences is even more stupid than what has already been done.
There certainly are some changes that could be made – like repealing several of the later amendments. The process in place for states to bring amendments to the Republic without Congress is more than enough power to get them started without opening any portion to the whims of national politics. There are more than enough bad ideas out there – like adding amendments for a balanced budget or forcing religious principles be adhered to by all – without adding this one to the mix.
Why would anyone grill rotted road kill next November?
There are far too many starving carrion birds who need our help and providing trussed turkeys at a convenient height for pecking is surely the least we can do. Then there are the declining populations of sharks ….
For once the leftists can serve a positive function.
Oh, that pinche puta putz thinks he knows something about high blood pressure, does he? Sure he does. I’ll just bet he too biology some place, somewhere.
Here you go: smoked sausage w/barbecue beans, done in the crock pot.
2 cans of red kidney or cannellini beans, or one of each
1 jar of yo’ favorite barbecue sauce (I like Sweet Baby Ray’s with a little sharp mustard added, maybe some Worcestershire, too)
1 whole fresh onion, chopped
2 loops of smoked sausage = beef, pork, turkey, whatever – your choice
Rinse the beans and put in the crock pot. Add 3/4 of the chopped onion and at least half of the Barbecue sauce, stir well, and put the smoked sausage on the top.
Cover it. Turn the crockpot on high and let it gestate for 5 to 6 hours. And don’t lift the lid while it’s cooking.
Plate it. Include cornbread your way or catshead biscuits and plenty of butter. Add yo’ fave fresh veggies on the side. Pick your favorite dessert item for dessert.
I’ve lost weight eating food like this. My jeans will no longer stay on my hips without help, and my blood pressure? 122 over 70. I just had my senior birthday. I’m going to outlive those asswipes and enjoy every minute of it.
Enjoy life, and tell that asshole in WDC and the birch pursuing his job to go pound sand up their butts sideways. How? Get off your dead asses and go to the primaries and vote this spring and then go vote in the fall.
And quitcher bitchin’.
I just saw this exact same recipe at another site.
Is that you, Ex-PH2?
This and many other fine recipes on the same site.
Kiss kiss, BW.
Actually, we’re just friends. We share stuff like that. She sent to me. I’m sharing it with you. Not about that cornbread… LOTS of cornbread, with LOTS of butter.
Delilah T
No need to insult the working ladies of the night in comparing them to that no account can’t say who is daddy is dope smoking fiend.
Cool recipe. Ever added tequila to it?
Tequila? Hmmmmmmmm………
That might make an already interesting recipe even more so.
Though the above is NOT BBQ. Just sayin’.
No, I’ve pretty much kept it on sober ingredients. But since it’s RED MEAT (gasp!!!) I see no harm in adding a little fine red wine to the mix, maybe a good burgundy?
I was right there with you until that, “Don’t lift the lid” thing. Now that’s just humanly impossible.
Forgot desert again, I see.
Chocolate Lava Muffins
Ingredients
• 8 ounces semisweet chocolate chips
• 1 stick butter
• 1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract
• 1/2 cup sugar
• 3 tablespoons flour
• 1/4 teaspoon salt
• 4 eggs
• Butter, to coat muffin tin
• 1 tablespoon cocoa powder
• 1 cup vanilla ice cream
• 1 teaspoon espresso powder
Directions
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees F.
Place a small metal bowl over a saucepan with simmering water. Melt the chocolate and butter in the bowl. Stir in vanilla.
In a large mixing bowl, combine sugar, flour and salt. Sift these into the chocolate and mix well with electric hand mixer. Add eggs one at time, fully incorporating each egg before adding the next. Beat at high until batter is creamy and lightens in color, approximately 4 minutes. Chill mixture.
Coat the top and each cup of the muffin tin with butter. Dust with the cocoa powder and shake out excess. Spoon mixture into pan using a 4-ounce scoop or ladle. Bake for 10 to 11 minutes. Outsides should be cake-like and centers should be gooey.
While muffins are in oven, melt the ice cream in a small saucepan. Stir in the espresso powder. Serve over warm muffins.
Family favorite, with thanks to Alton Brown.
Hmmm. Is a “catshead biscuit” the same thing as a “drop biscuit”? Haven’t heard that term before.
The SIZE of a cat’s head.
……all biscuits are that big.
Not in Moochs school lunch menu they aren’t.
Whole wheat flour, fat and sugar free.
Two inches in length. (curious. hmm)
Make great hockey pucks.
I realize that this is supposed to be satire,but considering the past 7 years,nothing the One says now would surprise me.
We can’t be rid of him fast enough for me.
I heard recently that he’s provoked the EPA into legislating BBQ grills out of existence unless they’re equipped with a catalytic converter to cleanse the air of the offensive odors they produce. Check out the lib-tard immigrants from Cal. into the Austin, TX area filing suits against the BBQ joints smoking out their neighborhoods. Even though the offending restaurants were there long before the ‘tards moved into the area, they claim that their “rights” are being infringed upon. F*ck the Doomed !!!!!
I’ve said in other instances of libtardism: You don’t like it, leave. Who in the hell do you think you are to move into a neighborhood and demand it be changed for you?
Well, that would be the same as the militant S/C Americans here. And the muslims. Funny the company the progs keep, isn’t it?
Indeed. Facepalm.
Like the tools that buy a house near a long-established airport, then complain about the noise.
But, but you have to understand. Nobody told ’em about the noise before hand. How were they supposed to know that the plains would be so loud?
Ask a pilot about the wonderful noise reduction measures for climbout that the FAA mandates because of those idiots. Reducing power and increasing ascent angle is not the optimum way to climb out. Ask a pilot how close to stalling out and doing a rock imitation they come every time they depart an airport where such procedures are mandated.
Apparently noise limitation doesn’t include the screams during the rock imitation… I try not to think of this when I or any of mine are flying out of any major airport (LAX, Boston/Logan, or Providence).
Or a farm and complain about the smell.
And Barbecued Pork in all its many delicious forms will be prohibited….
Oh, HELL, no!
Barbecue? Halal? HELL, NO! No fuckin’ way, in this life, OR the next. I’d rather eat kosher than halal.
I’m not sure halal is all that different from kosher. Either one would forbid tasty pork. Big Mo mostly cribbed his stuff from Jews and Christians, you know.
(Interesting note: encountering muslims – even relatively smart, well-educated ones – from N Africa and the ME, they will insist to you that the Koran was written before the Christian Bible and independent of it, despite massive historical evidence to the contrary. Much like progressivism, islam is a cult that requires most of it adherents to be flamingly ignorant of history.)
Mohamed was born in AD 570, received his “revelation” in AD 613, and preached until his death in AD 632. The Qu’ran is basically his preachings written down with commentaries by later hands.
When confronted by this, most Islamic “scholars” go into “yes, but” mode, in my experience.
It’s interesting to note that before his “enlightenment”, delivered by the archangel Gabriel (well, that’s what he said), the prophet engaged in caravan raiding, slaving, theft, murder, and the rape of underage girls. (He called it “marriage”.)
After said enlightenment, he continued to do the same on the grounds that God (via Gabriel) was OK with his lifestyle. as long as only non-“believers” (in his new faith) were the targets thereof.
It makes me wonder who he was really talking to, as opposed to who he thought he was conversing with.
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eon
He was talking to the results of Poppies Poppies Poppies.
The Silk Road brought amazing objects of rarity, and goods in the form of spices, exotic slaves, silks and drugs.
Never trust the ravings of a stoner.
How evil must a man be if all his wives got together and poisoned him? Or so goes the tale.
Pamela, the story I read recently (maybe I’ll even remember where) was that after conquering a Jewish town, murdering the men, etc., a Jewess (widowed BY MO) offered to cook him his favorite meal, lamb. She deliberately poisoned his favorite part, the foreleg, with a massive overdose. The idea was that if he REALLY was a prophet, G_d would tell him beforehand that the meat was poisoned. He chewed on it for a bit, then spat it out saying “this bone has warned me it was poison”. A close relative of his, also ate the meat but didn’t spit it out to avoid disturbing the prophet’s appetite, but also remarked that the meat tasted awful. Relative died that night, Mo took a couple years but insisted on his deathbed that it was the poison that did it. Apparently heart failure was too embarrassing an option. Therefore by his own admission proving the Jewess right, he was not a prophet. Ooops.
Ba’al. Satan. Simple.
Makes sense, a tit-bit of truth to support a mountain of lies.
eon
the prophet engaged in caravan raiding, slaving, theft, murder, and the rape of underage girls. (He called it “marriage”.)
GWB is correct, most everything he wrote was cribbed from the Torah and modified to suit his tastes. Strongly advise you not to make an argument comparing islam with Christianity on this issue before doing a thorough study of Genesis 2:24, Exodus 22:16-17, Numbers 30 and Deuteronomy 22.
What the Bible says about it is this: If a man seduces a virgin that isn’t engaged to be married and takes her virginity, he’s married to her. If he was already married, he now has two wives. If her father doesn’t like it, he can annul their marriage. Not only that, but if the man seizes said virgin and takes her by force they are married. If they are discovered (meaning, the fact she was *forced* is public), the father cannot annul the marriage and the man cannot ever divorce her.
In fact, a careful study of Deuteronomy 22 demonstrates that as far as God’s Law is concerned, “rape” is a crime that can only be committed against a married woman and there is a serious question as to whether it’s actually the crime of “rape” or rather a case of “forced adultery” that leads to the death penalty.
I’m not here to argue this, I’m just pointing out what the Bible actually says is in *serious* disagreement with what most X-ians think it says. Do not suppose for even a moment that I am in any way supporting Islam or their so-called “sacred” texts. I’m not. What you said implies that Christianity is different in this respect, and it both is and isn’t, which Chris has already illustrated in a couple of panels back in 2010. Here’s the setup:
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/comic/constitution/
and the punch:
http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/comic/separation/
Rather than trying to make a moral argument comparing islam vs Christianity, make the comparison between islam and the right of people to choose their laws and enforce them regardless of theology. That done, the whole discussion devolves to the point that muzzies in the US need to go. It’s very simple- anyone who professes the faith of islam needs to be ejected because they don’t belong here and will *never* fit in with the system of law (Christian) we have in the US… because their faith *forbids* it.
For those who refuse to leave, they should be treated in accordance with their own Sharia law, which specifically allows slavery (as does the Bible). For those who decide to fight, hunting licenses are an appropriate solution.
tl; dr
Muzzies cannot and will not ever be assimilated into the US culture and legal system because of what the Qu’ran commands them. In other words, the teachings of their faith will not allow it. When Trump gets done building his wall, muzzies need to be lined up at the gate, put in the exit lane and shoved out, never to be allowed back in.
We’re talking about gangrene here: cut it off or die.
Mohammed cribbed from old and new testaments. He forbade followers from reading them for obvious reasons.
GWB, this is a common error that non-muslims make about islam. They presume that, since islam was developed after Judaism and Christianity, it is a derivative of those religions. Further, since islam lumps Judaism and Christianity into “people of the book”, they assume muslims hold some respect for their religion. Neither Is True.
According to islam, the religions of Judaism and Christianity were world for word what mohammed wrote in the korran. However, evil people “corrupted” those texts into the “twisted perversions” they now are. As “people of the book”, it is remotely possible that they can be redeemed and made to behave correctly. But Christians or Jews as Christians or Jews are hopelessly corrupt, in breach of god’s law, and worthy of only contempt and death.
They presume that, since islam was developed after Judaism and Christianity, it is a derivative of those religions *and seen as such by muslims.
Give me BBQ or give me death!
Oh, NO! BBQ is a lot more fun than death! Simmer down!
BBQ is always better than death.
I love that depiction of ‘Teh One’, it would go great next to that newly created National Socialist design created for Bernie.
Regarding a Con-Con, it’s my understanding that it’s actions can only be with regards to the subject that are enumerated in the various State’s acts that created it and that it is being held only to strengthen Article 10 and so limit the Feds.
Once a Con-Con is started, it is Katy bar the door – there are no restrictions on where it can go.
That poster BELONGS on the backstop of a firing range!
Chris,
I’d steer clear of any Constitutional Convention. You know what happened to the Articles of Confederation back in 1787: They were tossed out, in secret, and the present Constitution was formulated.
Out Constitution will be tossed in the same manner as I do not trust ANY of our present day ‘legislators’ to do the right thing. There isn’t a ‘Founding Father’ caliber one among the entire panoply of Republicrats.
The Bill of Rights will be the first to go.
This.
So what are you suggesting, Willik? That someone whose popularity level has dropped significantly since his first term in office is doing anything more than drifting along toward the end of this one? Has it occurred to you that he just doesn’t give a shit about the job at all? Not even enough to do it properly? Or are you forgetting that shrillary has switched ass from back to front to back again during her campaign and is now sucking up to that asshole, where before she was slamming him?
You are right in that there are no Federalists in view right now, but this is not the Regency Period, either, and the Brits made war on the USA twice, first during the War of Independence and later, during the Napoleonic wars. Or did you not know about the French & Indian Wars? Did they leave that out of your history books in school?
You give up far too easily.
Precisely. The only thing I’d like to see in a Con Con is the restoration and re-implementation of the Original Constitution once more.
Exactly.
Not everyone in Congress is as dishonest as puglosi and her ilk. And if the only choices the democraps can offer are Bernie and shrillary, then they’re sitting on their hands for a reason. Bodaprez is a bigger embarrassment than anyone else they have ever fielded. He almost makes Tricky Dick Nixon, who lied like a dog, seem like a saint. Nixon at least gave a damn about the job.
Assume, for the sake of argument, that a Con Con were held and the left did NOT hijack it and produce some abomination such as Ruth Bader Ginsburg believes it should look like. Assume that the con cleans up the constitution; removes the – for many folks – offensive amendments and even strengthens the prohibition against the central government taking power not explicitly granted it. Then what?
The left doesn’t obey the constitution we HAVE NOW. What makes you think they would conform to an even more restrictive one? A constitution – like statutes, rules and regulations – is just words on paper. Words on paper do not – AND CAN NOT – modify human behavior. People only conform to the law (or regulations or rules) when it is convenient (or perhaps not too inconvenient). The real difference between criminals and so-called “law abiding” people is the threshold of inconvenience sufficient to disobey. Heck! What is “civil disobedience” but refusing to obey a law with which a person or group of persons disagree? The so-called “rule of law” is a pipe dream; and illusion.
Best bet is to threaten one. Congress will be more agreeable to small changes.
A Convention of the States would be called to consider a pre-set agenda of proposed amendments; it strikes me that it would be rather difficult to add to or amend that agenda. And don’t forget that any proposed amendment(s) coming out of the Convention would still require ratification by three fourths of the states. Getting 34 states to ratify inimical amendments – especially if a time limit were to be imposed – beggars the laws of probability. Your fears are ungrounded if not somewhat irrational.
You place too much faith in the system.
Read up on the Articles of Confederation and the convention which produced our current constitution and come back and spout that nonsense again.
I couldn’t agree with you more, Willik. If you think the problem is bad, wait until you see their solution.
Seems like you could add “I will tell you” to the last line. Thinking Ghostbusters.
Sam’s more the Gatekeeper than the Keymaster.
cheers
eon
Call it “BBQ” if you will, but if you spell it out, it’s “barbecue”! This Grammar
Nazi cringes behind his pulled pork sandwich every time he sees that non-existent word, “barbeque”. The commenters and even auto-complete knows there is no such word. Just because it exists on signs and bottles doesn’t make it right. #noObamawords
It should be “know”. #evengrammarnazisneedaneditingfunction
Mr. President, you didn’t build that.
You know, when you start that panicky stuff about that lazy-assed twigdick in the White House, you forget that only thing he gives a flying fart in space about is his crappy golf game. He doesn’t even care enough about his ‘legacy’ (whatever that is) to go to Chicago and ‘fight’ for his library. The cost of that edifice will run around $500 million. The funding so far is barely $5 million. His presidential library may simply become another section in the Chicago Public Library downtown. That’s a lot less expensive in a state that is overwhelmed with debt.
So if he doesn’t even care about that, do you think he gives enough of a shit to do something that would send his popularity score even further into the toilet? I don’t. He’s too damned lazy for that. He just wants to go play golf, and if he ends up in Hawaii, fine by me. If he ends up in whatever ME country where he’s rumored to have a dwelling, fine by me.
He’s a slacker who looks good in a suit. That ‘s about it. That’s his ‘legacy’. That’s how he should be remembered after he leaves office.
Why wouldn’t everything BHO has read not fit in the Chi- town main library annex? most would come from the TelePrompter Corporation files…
Remember this man didn’t read the US CON. or even his “autobiographies”….
they’ll need a map room for the Map of the “Fifty-Seven States of the Union, and a blank wall showing all the Nations he help bring Peace to, with the Nobel Peace Prize centered in the Void….. The longest list of Nations will be those that are now nuclear powers thanks to his inaction and actions.
Maybe if some of you would stop calling it a “con-con” and call it what it is, a Convention of States, you would begin to understand why it’s the only answer that has any chance of saving the country .Do you honestly that 38 states will agree to the destruction of the country? A Convention of States is called for a specific purpose, it’s not anything is up for grabs .
The Constitution was a great experiment that failed. As a guy named Lysander Spooner wrote a century and a half ago (before the New Deal, even):
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
The enduring myth is that one day we’ll have “the right” politicians to make it all work, which should be laughable at this point. And even if it did, by some miracle, occur… then we’d have a very brief respite before returning to a few centuries of things getting worse.
The glaring problem with this argument is that Spooner is using the same conceptual argument as the gun grabbers.
“It’s the guns, the guns are bad. Ban all guns.”
Does (did) Mr Spooner, whom I otherwise admire, actually think that ANYONE expected a piece of parchment to stand up by itself and march into the halls of Congress and Insist on the, bought and paid for, jackels to behave and follow the “Law of the Land”? Really?
Do I need to chain my rifles to their gun racks? Will they band together and kill me in my sleep? Sheesh …
The Republic was designed to be an active participation program and when in the late 1780’s (date is approximate) Congress allowed the elected office holders to be paid for their “labors” (strongly cautioned against by B. Franklin) we began having an influx of financial parasites, thieves, who formed “parties” (strongly cautioned against by G. Washington) to support each others thieving ways.
At about the same time the general public began to believe the hogwash that the thieves were spouting and sat back to let the thieves “take care of the countries business for you.” “Don’t worry we’ve got it.” (To be fair … Life was much harder then, compared to now, so it is understandable but not forgivable.)
And without active participation by the general public and after many “special corrections” being made to the regulations (allowing the thieves to make their own rules the Constitution be damned) we arrive where we are now.
“A Republic Madame, If we can keep it.” B. Franklin
Blaming the piece parchment for OUR laziness and the politicians greed is using the same mindset as the gun grabbers.
Please use your “little gray cells” for something besides ear separation.
“In all thy getting be certain to get Wisdom.”
Blaming the piece OF parchment for OUR laziness
Oopsie
Problem with not paying is rich only holding office. Unless, extreme part time only. No problem with that.
$500 million, for an outhouse with a book shelf? Say it ain’t so….. It’ll never be, to make the docs of this Admin. available would invite too many indictments…. Hopefully. (I know, I’m an optimist…) As for Obummer, banning ‘cue, we aughta wrap that cowpaddy in a pigskin and see if he bursts into flame….
I have just finished reading the comments above and the “speech” exerpt that Chris linked to and I did notice that … No one has yet mentioned that anyone, with even a dial-up connection, can within an hour refute Every. Single. Statement. he made in the speech. You know the MSM won’t.
Just sayin’ …
Con-con = No-no.
Until such time as we can purge the halls of congress, and the white house, of the collectivist, power drunk, greed motivated, traitorous elected personnel and a major portion of the tax funded, parasitic, “support staffs” as well we cannot give the entrenched leeches the opportunity to scrap the advances we have made. (Bill of Rights, etc)
I, also, would, personally, like to see the Original Agreement that was signed by all of the States reinstated. The Articles of Confederation. www dot usconstitution dot net/articles dot html
(I didn’t ask if I could post a link so fix it for yourself if you would read the actual thing.)
PROVIDED that the Bill of Rights is kept as is. Amendments 11 through 27 can be debated and a goodly portion of them scraped. (The 14th and 17th come to mind instantly.)
my two cents
To all,
Remember this place(blog) is a piece of private property. Chris’ property.
“Free Speech” does not apply on private property.
Chris’ house – Chris’ rules.
See Chris’ statement below.
This was intended to be below his statement. [shrug]
“Best laid plans …” and all of that.
To those who are adamantly and unconditionally opposed to a con-con, as I said near the top of the thread, I too have always been very wary of popping the top on that can of worms. But here’s the thing; if events this November go wrong, there may be no choice if we are to survive. If the path and plan of replacing us as citizens and voters with immigrants whose only loyalty is to their own enrichment by taking what is ours, eliminating our culture and replacing it with their own, and the payback and perpetuation of that what brought ’em here is allowed to continue unopposed and unabated, the Republic will be done and there is nothing in that Constitution that will matter anyway.
So. If the beast that would replace the hideous devil depicted here in Chris’ toon has her chance, she will replicate and expediate what he has started…and of course if that little commie scum gets in, in practice the constitution will become a twisted manifesto. So at that point, what exactly are we saving? What provisions within it will save us or itself? Consider the sealed and protected contents of that can spoiled at that point, yet if it is opened while still fresh, at least there is the chance that it can be reconstituted, as it were, into something that will allow us to keep it and us secure going forward.
And if not, if the concerns that opening the can allows its contents to be gobbled up and destroyed, or so altered with additives as to render it poisonous…well, that’s why I also said that secession would be on the table. A new consortium of freedom and liberty minded libertarians bound not necessarily by contiguous borders but by their hearts and minds and wills…islands of red in an ocean of blue if you will, and my feeling is that very large red islands will encompass military might, natural resources, and economic power to make the alliance work.
Far-fetched? I hope so. But if the time comes when the morlock leaders control the sirens, the machines, our assets, and our ability to resist them, then it may be a more realistic, necessary, and even desirable scenario than we can imagine right now.
I gotta quit taking this cartoon so seriously………….. Chris, I have to report myself to the authorities now.
The string of threats that I uttered reading today’s strip undoubtedly have me on 12 more lists.
All an Article v convention does is give the states the power to do what any sitting Congress can do at any – propose amendments. If you want to worry, worry what Congress might do.
Lets refer against the BHO “Change my Diaper NOW!”
Doesn’t like what some Americans are doing? Check.
Complains bout it on TV? Check.
Wants to use the ham-handed approach of Government to fix a problem that only exists in his Twice-Dipped-in-Ivy-League-Shyte for brain? Checkidy, Check-check!
I keep saying “If you think this pumpkin is annoying now wait until he’s OUT of office and able to share his Whiny Wisdom of Zilch with the masses.