Before we come down on Skye, let’s remember she is still learning to apply logic and reason to determine nuance and truth the black and white propaganda she was fed and eagerly swallowed for so long. She has some good teachers.
Far more disturbing…
“Conservatives must acknowledge that “dreamers” are our future”. If Bitch McConnell has not just drunk that poison kool-ade but is actively peddling it? Then Trump -and we- better embrace that Fleetwood Mac anthem he was humming and contemplating yesterday and go our own way right now before it’s too late…there is no “party” left under the Republican tent.
OTOH he’s been an R in name only since oh…about the time the quivering rinos begged him to pledge he wouldn’t replace it with an X, Y, or Z and go rogue if they stole the nomination from him…which he did, because unlike them he knew about the cascade of deplorables even then, way before the beast so cluelessly bestowed that proud label.
The letter doesn’t matter, he can keep the R if he wants to…but he’s no Republican. Neither am I. He and we go our own way; it’s what got us where we are, keep calm and carry on.
September 7, 2017 at 1:49 pm
Mogrith
I missed the last word at first but like the idea
Keep Calm
&
Carry
September 5, 2017 at 6:34 am
Bill G
All platform, no action.
September 5, 2017 at 11:22 am
Peregrine John
Chris is good with the realism.
Speaking of which, the Trumpian lines are good enough that I hear them in his voice. Love it.
No, DACA is not our future. But what we’d better do is get our education programs back up to speed. Mind, body, and tech.
September 5, 2017 at 5:24 am
NotYetInACamp
Correct, Sir. The DACA Deal is no DACA at all. John Wayne’s “Fill your hands” challenge was made just before he blasted the bad guys.
We need our borders, Our citizens, Our children, not other nations’ invaders’ children need be benefited. We are not to be the victim of the cuckoo bird who puts its eggs in the other birds nest where they eventually kill off the host birds and its now dead progeny.
We need jobs, education, and products and culture for Our nation.
Any rewards and past rewards of invasions must end and be reversed.
The International World Order of whirled peas populations full of subservient poor workers of the world people must not be.
We can only be a beacon of liberty and responsibility to the world if we retain our strength, so we can help others, after we help ourselves. The neocons get one thing right. We must have strength. But for peace. Not for incessant wars where the wealth of the world drains into a few hands.
September 5, 2017 at 1:43 am
JackDeth 72
McConnell and Ryan are “A Good Start” in exemplifying the punchline for the Age Old “What Do You Call 10,000 Lawyers Buried Up To Their Necks At Low Tide?” Or “In Concrete?” jokes.
September 5, 2017 at 10:36 am
Pamela
Er….Bait
September 5, 2017 at 2:35 pm
DASTARDLY DAN
A good start!
September 5, 2017 at 2:08 am
WayneM
Sam’s point is far more apt than Skye’s…
I’m surprised Sam haven’t had a “snatch the pebble from my hand, grasshopper” talk for Skye yet. After all, Skye needs to wise up, grow up and start showing she has agency. I can’t see Sam and Zed wanting to be responsible for Skye forever. So they need to know when Skye is ready…
September 5, 2017 at 3:03 am
Halley
Somehow (how?) the Tea Party got diluted and co-opted, but I don’t see that happening to the MAGA party – the disgust at the DimWannabes doing the Enemedia’s bidding is too great.
Checked our shelter-in-place and Bug-out supplies this weekend. MREs, water, propane stove, COFFEE!! and of course cat food and litter boxes. Now we watch the track. Not so worried about flooding, but the 40-year pines upwind of us. If they topple, the house could take major damage. Told the wife if I’m deployed, pack up the cats and head for Clemson.
Zar Belk!
September 5, 2017 at 7:35 pm
Deplorable B Woodman
Pine trees have such a shallow root system. Measure how tall your tree is /are vs how far away from the house it is, take action accordingly (top off, cut down).
September 5, 2017 at 10:52 am
Pamela
Please be safe as you can be to anyone in Florida.
Chris, NYIAC, JT, Master Diver…
September 5, 2017 at 6:24 am
eon
One of the hallmarks of a decadent culture is that the elites embrace a cult of “otherness”. That is, they decide that a foreign culture (or cultures) is inherently superior to that which birthed them, and that said superior culture must Triumph in order for them to create Utopia- with themselves in charge.
(For instance, German National Socialism had its roots in the German Romantic literary movement, which worshiped all things Eastern and mystical- much as modern-day Western progressives do.)
Another hallmark is the importation of “outside barbarians” by such elites to be anything from slave labor to janissaries to keep the domestic peasantry under control. The latter method is chosen because a Sturmabteilung or Red Guard raised from the peasantry might have divided loyalties, plus arming peasants never sits well with an elite.
NB; There’s a reason the French nobility at Agincourt in 1415 hired Genoese mercenary crossbowmen rather than giving their own serfs crossbows to fight the English with. And why many of the troops the Soviets used to suppress the 1956 Hungarian revolt were Mongolian. And note that the Visigoths did not initially enter the Roman Empire “uninvited”.
Once an elite decides that their own culture and people are repugnant (or “deplorable”), there is no limit they will not go to in use of their power to destroy same, in the belief that Utopia will spontaneously create itself for them to rule once all those grotty groundlings are properly “chastised”- or better yet dead, gone, and good riddance.
DACA is just one effect of this idée fixe. Many others can be noted every time a member of our modern “enlightened elite'” opens their mouth.
There is no point in trying to reach a rapprochement with the modern elites. They hate everyone else for existing, and hate our civilization for existing, as well. (Now you know why “environmentalist” is semantically equivalent to “primitivist, genocidal fanatic”.)
This will not end well. Historically, it never has.
All known history as to “civilizations” before us.
But as noted above, it’s the cancer at the core of the resistance that is most troubling, as every word mentioned about “enlightened elites” is embraced and embodied by them, our erstwhile own…I recall that too has often been historically the case.
“This will not end well.” Also historically correct. But for whom that foreboding prediction applies is still up to us.
Unless Irma gets us first of course.
September 5, 2017 at 7:01 am
Big Jim
Revelation 22:13–“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.”
( And Adolph Galland’s “The First and the Last”- how the Germans lost WWII in the air-fits right in)
September 5, 2017 at 7:45 am
GWB
I think Skye hits it on the head.
Our populace is corrupt after 50+ years of welfare and other violations of the Constitution. It has been indoctrinated and propagandized into believing that big gov’t is the answer. Progressive education has taught it to ignore personal responsibility and morality. A “strong man” is the natural next step.
Some on the “right”* are very happy to have a “strong man” in office. And some don’t evidently care if he breaks the rules – as long as he’s our guy when they get broken. I say fie on that.
Quite simply, civil forfeiture violates the Constitution. Militarizing the police** furthers elitism and a police state. They’re both wrong. I don’t care who is in charge when it happens.
Having said all that, I’m certainly glad the Democrat alternatives aren’t in office. We’ve slowed the descent.
(* I put right in “” because I really don’t like the left-right formulation. Especially how the progs use it to their benefit.)
(** I’ll be ok with “militarizing” the police when I get to own – without expensive and intrusive licenses – the very same weapons they have. Not before.)
September 5, 2017 at 9:11 am
Bill G
It would be impossible to count the number of leftists who have blathered on about the Constitution and the Second Amendment being written at a time when the army had muskets.
What does not get mentioned is that at the same time the citizens were able to buy rifles. If they could find one, they could get a Ferguson rifle.
Civilians carried weapons superior to those held by the military.
And then there were the privately owned trading ships with privately owned cannons…
September 5, 2017 at 11:18 am
Doggo
I’ve been trying to make this point for quite a while. The army didn’t own better arms than the average citizen until machine guns were outlawed in the 1930s. Both sides started the civil war by issuing smooth bore muzzle loaders…while the average farmer had his own rifle! Eventually the North started getting access to the Sharps rifles which brought them up to par with the civilians. The standard WWI troop received bolt action rifles and semi-auto pistols, and in WWII they got semi-auto rifles and pistols. Of course, they had access to fully automatic weapons, too. It wasn’t until the M-16 in Vietnam that the army issued fully automatic weapons to everyone.
September 5, 2017 at 7:43 pm
Deplorable B Woodman
Gee, Beav, if the Libtards are going to go with “this was written back in the day”, then do we get to limit their First Amendment rights”? After all, the Bill of Rights was written in the days of the handset movable type, the quill pen, the ink bottle, and the town crier. No computers, no multi-pages-per-minute printers, not even electricity.
(**) I do believe that IS what The Donald wants. He has never backtracked on his support for the 2A. Mind you, I do wish he’d hurry up and make CONgress repeal the NFA, and everything since related.
September 5, 2017 at 9:16 am
noncom
Trump needs to put the question of DACA back where it belongs, in the lap of the House and Senate…..odildo the mad was illegal when he executive-ordered the damn thing to begin with….
September 5, 2017 at 11:02 am
Old Codger
I feel sorry for the “Dreamers”; I truly do. To begin with, their unlawful immigrant parents brought them here – likely at no small risk of their lives. Then for the last decade or so, officially and unofficially they have been encouraged to hope (and dream) that despite the fact that – though through no fault of their own – they were here unlawfully, somehow a way would be found to allow them to stay here and live out their lives.
The fact remains that they ARE here unlawfully; however the circumstances. If we are to have a government of law rather than men, the only relevant fact is that they are not here lawfully. If they want to be angry with or blame anyone for their plight, they should start with their own parents; who started the mess. Then they should blame the bleeding hearts (and coldly cynical vote-buying politicians) on the left who made things infinitely worse. Enforcing the law is not unfair. The law is neither fair nor unfair. It is merely the law.
Doubtless there are potential good and productive citizens among the ranks of the dreamers. Unfortunately, that potential is irrelevant. The law is the law (until it is changed) and under current law the dreamers are here unlawfully and therefor MUST . . . . . . BE . . . . . . DEPORTED!PERIOD! The alternative would be to abandon all semblance/pretense/aspiration of the rule of law and admit that, in the final analysis, the “rule of law” is a myth and the rule of men has always been and always will be the fact.
September 5, 2017 at 12:29 pm
Henry
“He’s for civil forfeiture and military weapons for the police.”
“Unlike your candidate?”
With Skye’s candidate the “civil forfeiture” would line only her pockets, and the “military weapons for the police” would only be for her personal private police.
September 5, 2017 at 1:57 pm
NotYetInACamp
It must frost the Clinton’s asses that they can’t get their cloven hooves on this hurricane relief money using their bag man Foundations as the means of theft. Think of all of the invasion foundations like Catholic Charities, The Episcopal Church grous, and alleged evangelical aid organizations that plundered billions providing housing , relief, aid and profits and jobs to themselves , all from the stream and placement of these invaders of our nation, including those under DACA.
An American is President again. Thank God. Praise God.
September 5, 2017 at 6:35 pm
Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah
“Think of all of the invasion foundations like Catholic Charities, The Episcopal Church grous, and alleged evangelical aid organizations that plundered billions providing housing , relief, aid and profits and jobs to themselves , all from the stream and placement of these invaders of our nation …”
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Oh YEAH
SKYPE really has changed, huh??
SAME SHIT, NEW WRAPPER
NOPE
Before we come down on Skye, let’s remember she is still learning to apply logic and reason to determine nuance and truth the black and white propaganda she was fed and eagerly swallowed for so long. She has some good teachers.
Far more disturbing…
“Conservatives must acknowledge that “dreamers” are our future”. If Bitch McConnell has not just drunk that poison kool-ade but is actively peddling it? Then Trump -and we- better embrace that Fleetwood Mac anthem he was humming and contemplating yesterday and go our own way right now before it’s too late…there is no “party” left under the Republican tent.
“in lieu of” the black and white propaganda…
I concur.
But use the tent to steal the tent next election.
The voters in the tent are OURS.
OTOH he’s been an R in name only since oh…about the time the quivering rinos begged him to pledge he wouldn’t replace it with an X, Y, or Z and go rogue if they stole the nomination from him…which he did, because unlike them he knew about the cascade of deplorables even then, way before the beast so cluelessly bestowed that proud label.
The letter doesn’t matter, he can keep the R if he wants to…but he’s no Republican. Neither am I. He and we go our own way; it’s what got us where we are, keep calm and carry on.
I missed the last word at first but like the idea
Keep Calm
&
Carry
All platform, no action.
Chris is good with the realism.
Speaking of which, the Trumpian lines are good enough that I hear them in his voice. Love it.
The Art of the DACA Deal.
Boys. Fill your hands.
No, DACA is not our future. But what we’d better do is get our education programs back up to speed. Mind, body, and tech.
Correct, Sir. The DACA Deal is no DACA at all. John Wayne’s “Fill your hands” challenge was made just before he blasted the bad guys.
We need our borders, Our citizens, Our children, not other nations’ invaders’ children need be benefited. We are not to be the victim of the cuckoo bird who puts its eggs in the other birds nest where they eventually kill off the host birds and its now dead progeny.
We need jobs, education, and products and culture for Our nation.
Any rewards and past rewards of invasions must end and be reversed.
The International World Order of whirled peas populations full of subservient poor workers of the world people must not be.
We can only be a beacon of liberty and responsibility to the world if we retain our strength, so we can help others, after we help ourselves. The neocons get one thing right. We must have strength. But for peace. Not for incessant wars where the wealth of the world drains into a few hands.
McConnell and Ryan are “A Good Start” in exemplifying the punchline for the Age Old “What Do You Call 10,000 Lawyers Buried Up To Their Necks At Low Tide?” Or “In Concrete?” jokes.
Er….Bait
A good start!
Sam’s point is far more apt than Skye’s…
I’m surprised Sam haven’t had a “snatch the pebble from my hand, grasshopper” talk for Skye yet. After all, Skye needs to wise up, grow up and start showing she has agency. I can’t see Sam and Zed wanting to be responsible for Skye forever. So they need to know when Skye is ready…
Somehow (how?) the Tea Party got diluted and co-opted, but I don’t see that happening to the MAGA party – the disgust at the DimWannabes doing the Enemedia’s bidding is too great.
Irma’s cone.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT11/refresh/AL112017_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind+png/204937_5day_cone_no_line_and_wind.png
Checked our shelter-in-place and Bug-out supplies this weekend. MREs, water, propane stove, COFFEE!! and of course cat food and litter boxes. Now we watch the track. Not so worried about flooding, but the 40-year pines upwind of us. If they topple, the house could take major damage. Told the wife if I’m deployed, pack up the cats and head for Clemson.
Zar Belk!
Pine trees have such a shallow root system. Measure how tall your tree is /are vs how far away from the house it is, take action accordingly (top off, cut down).
Please be safe as you can be to anyone in Florida.
Chris, NYIAC, JT, Master Diver…
One of the hallmarks of a decadent culture is that the elites embrace a cult of “otherness”. That is, they decide that a foreign culture (or cultures) is inherently superior to that which birthed them, and that said superior culture must Triumph in order for them to create Utopia- with themselves in charge.
(For instance, German National Socialism had its roots in the German Romantic literary movement, which worshiped all things Eastern and mystical- much as modern-day Western progressives do.)
Another hallmark is the importation of “outside barbarians” by such elites to be anything from slave labor to janissaries to keep the domestic peasantry under control. The latter method is chosen because a Sturmabteilung or Red Guard raised from the peasantry might have divided loyalties, plus arming peasants never sits well with an elite.
NB; There’s a reason the French nobility at Agincourt in 1415 hired Genoese mercenary crossbowmen rather than giving their own serfs crossbows to fight the English with. And why many of the troops the Soviets used to suppress the 1956 Hungarian revolt were Mongolian. And note that the Visigoths did not initially enter the Roman Empire “uninvited”.
Once an elite decides that their own culture and people are repugnant (or “deplorable”), there is no limit they will not go to in use of their power to destroy same, in the belief that Utopia will spontaneously create itself for them to rule once all those grotty groundlings are properly “chastised”- or better yet dead, gone, and good riddance.
DACA is just one effect of this idée fixe. Many others can be noted every time a member of our modern “enlightened elite'” opens their mouth.
There is no point in trying to reach a rapprochement with the modern elites. They hate everyone else for existing, and hate our civilization for existing, as well. (Now you know why “environmentalist” is semantically equivalent to “primitivist, genocidal fanatic”.)
This will not end well. Historically, it never has.
clear ether
eon
All known history as to “civilizations” before us.
But as noted above, it’s the cancer at the core of the resistance that is most troubling, as every word mentioned about “enlightened elites” is embraced and embodied by them, our erstwhile own…I recall that too has often been historically the case.
“This will not end well.” Also historically correct. But for whom that foreboding prediction applies is still up to us.
Unless Irma gets us first of course.
Revelation 22:13–“I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.”
( And Adolph Galland’s “The First and the Last”- how the Germans lost WWII in the air-fits right in)
I think Skye hits it on the head.
Our populace is corrupt after 50+ years of welfare and other violations of the Constitution. It has been indoctrinated and propagandized into believing that big gov’t is the answer. Progressive education has taught it to ignore personal responsibility and morality. A “strong man” is the natural next step.
Some on the “right”* are very happy to have a “strong man” in office. And some don’t evidently care if he breaks the rules – as long as he’s our guy when they get broken. I say fie on that.
Quite simply, civil forfeiture violates the Constitution. Militarizing the police** furthers elitism and a police state. They’re both wrong. I don’t care who is in charge when it happens.
Having said all that, I’m certainly glad the Democrat alternatives aren’t in office. We’ve slowed the descent.
(* I put right in “” because I really don’t like the left-right formulation. Especially how the progs use it to their benefit.)
(** I’ll be ok with “militarizing” the police when I get to own – without expensive and intrusive licenses – the very same weapons they have. Not before.)
It would be impossible to count the number of leftists who have blathered on about the Constitution and the Second Amendment being written at a time when the army had muskets.
What does not get mentioned is that at the same time the citizens were able to buy rifles. If they could find one, they could get a Ferguson rifle.
Civilians carried weapons superior to those held by the military.
And then there were the privately owned trading ships with privately owned cannons…
I’ve been trying to make this point for quite a while. The army didn’t own better arms than the average citizen until machine guns were outlawed in the 1930s. Both sides started the civil war by issuing smooth bore muzzle loaders…while the average farmer had his own rifle! Eventually the North started getting access to the Sharps rifles which brought them up to par with the civilians. The standard WWI troop received bolt action rifles and semi-auto pistols, and in WWII they got semi-auto rifles and pistols. Of course, they had access to fully automatic weapons, too. It wasn’t until the M-16 in Vietnam that the army issued fully automatic weapons to everyone.
Gee, Beav, if the Libtards are going to go with “this was written back in the day”, then do we get to limit their First Amendment rights”? After all, the Bill of Rights was written in the days of the handset movable type, the quill pen, the ink bottle, and the town crier. No computers, no multi-pages-per-minute printers, not even electricity.
(**) I do believe that IS what The Donald wants. He has never backtracked on his support for the 2A. Mind you, I do wish he’d hurry up and make CONgress repeal the NFA, and everything since related.
Trump needs to put the question of DACA back where it belongs, in the lap of the House and Senate…..odildo the mad was illegal when he executive-ordered the damn thing to begin with….
I feel sorry for the “Dreamers”; I truly do. To begin with, their unlawful immigrant parents brought them here – likely at no small risk of their lives. Then for the last decade or so, officially and unofficially they have been encouraged to hope (and dream) that despite the fact that – though through no fault of their own – they were here unlawfully, somehow a way would be found to allow them to stay here and live out their lives.
The fact remains that they ARE here unlawfully; however the circumstances. If we are to have a government of law rather than men, the only relevant fact is that they are not here lawfully. If they want to be angry with or blame anyone for their plight, they should start with their own parents; who started the mess. Then they should blame the bleeding hearts (and coldly cynical vote-buying politicians) on the left who made things infinitely worse. Enforcing the law is not unfair. The law is neither fair nor unfair. It is merely the law.
Doubtless there are potential good and productive citizens among the ranks of the dreamers. Unfortunately, that potential is irrelevant. The law is the law (until it is changed) and under current law the dreamers are here unlawfully and therefor MUST . . . . . . BE . . . . . . DEPORTED! PERIOD! The alternative would be to abandon all semblance/pretense/aspiration of the rule of law and admit that, in the final analysis, the “rule of law” is a myth and the rule of men has always been and always will be the fact.
“He’s for civil forfeiture and military weapons for the police.”
“Unlike your candidate?”
Forgot the supporting citations:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/24/1490433/-How-the-Clintons-Militarized-the-Police-and-Expanded-Military-Industrial-Complex
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/07/20/awkward-chelsea-clinton-calls-asset-forfeiture-orwellian-accidentally-blasts-her-own-dad/
“Unlike your candidate?”
With Skye’s candidate the “civil forfeiture” would line only her pockets, and the “military weapons for the police” would only be for her personal private police.
It must frost the Clinton’s asses that they can’t get their cloven hooves on this hurricane relief money using their bag man Foundations as the means of theft. Think of all of the invasion foundations like Catholic Charities, The Episcopal Church grous, and alleged evangelical aid organizations that plundered billions providing housing , relief, aid and profits and jobs to themselves , all from the stream and placement of these invaders of our nation, including those under DACA.
An American is President again. Thank God. Praise God.
“Think of all of the invasion foundations like Catholic Charities, The Episcopal Church grous, and alleged evangelical aid organizations that plundered billions providing housing , relief, aid and profits and jobs to themselves , all from the stream and placement of these invaders of our nation …”
Ahh, yes… let me just put in a plug for “Refugee Resettlement Watch” –
https://tinyurl.com/RefResWatch
and the “Center for Immigration Studies” –
http://CIS.org
DO take your blood-pressure meds first.