One plus for McCarthy is the spending bill for the IRS. Instead of 87,000 agents, some armed. About 2500 will be calling on the telephone, asking nicely.
There are several very good review sites reporting on this ‘new’ rifle and the general concensus is that the suppresor is a decent idea, although it makes it hard to mount a bayonet, but ‘bama said nobody used those so that doesn’t matter o.O
From what I can see, it’s pretty much just a piston operated AR instead of the ridiculous direct gas impingement and little more other than stuck on bits that can break.
Nobody has tested it with the military ammunition since that isn’t available yet but a plastic ‘telescoping’ round is, to me anyway, a set of problems looking for a place to happen.
I might be a little biased, I was issued an FN and a Sterling SMG at various times and both worked as advertised with minimal problems. Once they started issuing the AR, I went from almost never seeing a malfunction on the range (both as shooter and RSO/Instructor) to one on almost every relay, including in National competition.
Sometimes the ‘old’ technology just worked and adding new untested bells and whistles simply to look ‘modern’ is a waste of time and money.
If the ammunition for the belt fed is too heavy, add more guys to the squad to carry the extra, that worked for the Germans with the MG-34/42.
Giving the modern soldier the equivalent of a rifle/lmg/mortar in his hands is a great idea on paper, but in practice ? maybe not such a fantastic scheme when you have to hump all the extra weight around and that new piece is heavy, not even counting the grenade laucher someone will eventually hang under it.
It’s like the generals approving this stuff never had to use it but watched the sales pitch scene in 5th element once too often.
I had one of those ‘multi-purpose’ rigs when I was a kid in the 60’s, worked as well as you’d expect it to 😉 those white plastic ‘bullets’ were indestructible though, found them in odd places for years afterward
“Sometimes the ‘old’ technology just worked and adding new untested bells and whistles simply to look ‘modern’ is a waste of time and money.”
So sayeth the ghost of JMB (PBUH) for the past 100 plus years….
October 16, 2023 at 1:09 pm
JTC
“From about 1920 until the 1980s the U.S. armed forces used Browning-designed automatic and semiautomatic weapons almost exclusively: the . 45-calibre Model 1911 auto-loading pistol; the Model 1918 . 30 calibre Browning automatic rifle (BAR); crew-served”
October 16, 2023 at 1:42 pm
NotYetInACamp
But hasn’t the underlying theme of the insurrection/rebellion/democrat/communist/November2020 Coup been all along to design everything so that we lose.
Look at 10% ethanol gasoline that fouls everything if not constantly recycled through the system. The whole sustainability get rid of internal combustion and sink vehicle range down to nothing when the battery is dead. Cutting off anatomy. fattening up the population reducing fitness for the military. Woke. Bring in millions of likely invaders (PLA tattoos says something, not to mention gangs and cartels, and many others. Design flaws. Foreign junk. Jobs overseas for no good reason. No time to continue 🙂
October 16, 2023 at 8:40 pm
Bren
The new rifle grew, in part, out of the experiences of the Afghanistan conflict. US forces had a tendency to be engaged from beyond the range of their weapons, leaving them the sole choice of either hunkering down and weathering it, or calling in airstrikes on targets whose locations they weren’t sure of.
Further impetus came from the proliferation of body armor on the battlefield.
There was a story around that soldiers were capable of destroying crowbars. Guess what they could do to those overengineered weapons. And our new DIE solders? They will do good not to kill themselves.
The definition of an Officer used to be:
‘someone you could lock inside an empty room with two 1 foot in diameter solid steel balls and inside of a half hour he’s broken one and lost the other’ 😉
What I don’t understand about the ‘telescoping ammo’, and this is speaking with 20 years as a military weapons tech, 45 years of qualifying on duty weapons of various sorts and a lifetime of shooting and reloading, is… ‘if the powder charge fits in the case when it’s ‘telescoped’ then why bother making the case longer to fire it ?’, the extra length and volume can’t make that much of a difference and every moving part makes the chances of failure go up exponentially, why bother ? it isn’t saving that much weight and none at all over ‘non-telescoping’ cases made of the same material which would by default have to weigh a little less with no need for an overlap where the pieces seal together. This isn’t something that’s required for benchrest accuracy at 1,000 yds but something that has to work ‘first time, every time’ in use and I see a reversion to brass cases coming not long after it’s introduced to the two-way range.
We all shouldn’t see that sausage made. Though we needed to.
Go Vanguard, Blackrock, and State Street. Into the sausage grinder. Be useful to someone besides yourselves.
First thing I thought of when McCarthy starts squealing is the scene where Pinocchio transforms into a donkey and starts braying. Maybe that would be even more appropriate.
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As to “purty moufs” hers sure is…
McCarthy squealing like a pig just made my day!
There it is. ^^^^^^^^^^
One plus for McCarthy is the spending bill for the IRS. Instead of 87,000 agents, some armed. About 2500 will be calling on the telephone, asking nicely.
After the words “I’m calling from the Infernal Revenue Service” >asking nicely< can be highly subjective.
Zar Belk!
“Be wary of strong drink.
It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss.”
Robert A. Heinlein
Using the “Infernal” on my check earned me an audit when I was in my early 20’s (snicker). They said so. rofl
Is that a fat forest grove owl scree squee?
Could be.
Send him to the Red Green show.
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
The tyranny of the minority.
Making the House safe for Democrats in 2024. Sure hope you enjoy a Hakeem Jeffries Speakership.
Just a FYI post
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/new-army-rifle-photos/
There are several very good review sites reporting on this ‘new’ rifle and the general concensus is that the suppresor is a decent idea, although it makes it hard to mount a bayonet, but ‘bama said nobody used those so that doesn’t matter o.O
From what I can see, it’s pretty much just a piston operated AR instead of the ridiculous direct gas impingement and little more other than stuck on bits that can break.
Nobody has tested it with the military ammunition since that isn’t available yet but a plastic ‘telescoping’ round is, to me anyway, a set of problems looking for a place to happen.
I might be a little biased, I was issued an FN and a Sterling SMG at various times and both worked as advertised with minimal problems. Once they started issuing the AR, I went from almost never seeing a malfunction on the range (both as shooter and RSO/Instructor) to one on almost every relay, including in National competition.
Sometimes the ‘old’ technology just worked and adding new untested bells and whistles simply to look ‘modern’ is a waste of time and money.
If the ammunition for the belt fed is too heavy, add more guys to the squad to carry the extra, that worked for the Germans with the MG-34/42.
Giving the modern soldier the equivalent of a rifle/lmg/mortar in his hands is a great idea on paper, but in practice ? maybe not such a fantastic scheme when you have to hump all the extra weight around and that new piece is heavy, not even counting the grenade laucher someone will eventually hang under it.
It’s like the generals approving this stuff never had to use it but watched the sales pitch scene in 5th element once too often.
I had one of those ‘multi-purpose’ rigs when I was a kid in the 60’s, worked as well as you’d expect it to 😉 those white plastic ‘bullets’ were indestructible though, found them in odd places for years afterward
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/c7/e1/e8c7e1ddcc593d839431e82d1b5f7956.jpg
“Sometimes the ‘old’ technology just worked and adding new untested bells and whistles simply to look ‘modern’ is a waste of time and money.”
So sayeth the ghost of JMB (PBUH) for the past 100 plus years….
“From about 1920 until the 1980s the U.S. armed forces used Browning-designed automatic and semiautomatic weapons almost exclusively: the . 45-calibre Model 1911 auto-loading pistol; the Model 1918 . 30 calibre Browning automatic rifle (BAR); crew-served”
But hasn’t the underlying theme of the insurrection/rebellion/democrat/communist/November2020 Coup been all along to design everything so that we lose.
Look at 10% ethanol gasoline that fouls everything if not constantly recycled through the system. The whole sustainability get rid of internal combustion and sink vehicle range down to nothing when the battery is dead. Cutting off anatomy. fattening up the population reducing fitness for the military. Woke. Bring in millions of likely invaders (PLA tattoos says something, not to mention gangs and cartels, and many others. Design flaws. Foreign junk. Jobs overseas for no good reason. No time to continue 🙂
The new rifle grew, in part, out of the experiences of the Afghanistan conflict. US forces had a tendency to be engaged from beyond the range of their weapons, leaving them the sole choice of either hunkering down and weathering it, or calling in airstrikes on targets whose locations they weren’t sure of.
Further impetus came from the proliferation of body armor on the battlefield.
The telescoping ammo is a whole other issue.
Never fired and only dropped once
There was a story around that soldiers were capable of destroying crowbars. Guess what they could do to those overengineered weapons. And our new DIE solders? They will do good not to kill themselves.
The definition of an Officer used to be:
‘someone you could lock inside an empty room with two 1 foot in diameter solid steel balls and inside of a half hour he’s broken one and lost the other’ 😉
What I don’t understand about the ‘telescoping ammo’, and this is speaking with 20 years as a military weapons tech, 45 years of qualifying on duty weapons of various sorts and a lifetime of shooting and reloading, is… ‘if the powder charge fits in the case when it’s ‘telescoped’ then why bother making the case longer to fire it ?’, the extra length and volume can’t make that much of a difference and every moving part makes the chances of failure go up exponentially, why bother ? it isn’t saving that much weight and none at all over ‘non-telescoping’ cases made of the same material which would by default have to weigh a little less with no need for an overlap where the pieces seal together. This isn’t something that’s required for benchrest accuracy at 1,000 yds but something that has to work ‘first time, every time’ in use and I see a reversion to brass cases coming not long after it’s introduced to the two-way range.
Brutal. Funny. True.
Is that Joplin’s “The Entertainer” I hear way in the background?
We all shouldn’t see that sausage made. Though we needed to.
Go Vanguard, Blackrock, and State Street. Into the sausage grinder. Be useful to someone besides yourselves.
No deep thoughts on the comment, other than that one is just funny
First thing I thought of when McCarthy starts squealing is the scene where Pinocchio transforms into a donkey and starts braying. Maybe that would be even more appropriate.