And don Portago should know these things. America needs a hard cold CAPITALIST as a POTUS. A true CONSERVATIVE who WILL deport the illegal wastes. Keep the good ones? How do you identify those? Other than weed those on welfare, and review any and all money transfers out of the country.
September 16, 2015 at 12:42 am
Little-Acorn
How do you identify the bad ones? By obeying the laws that have been on the books for decades. Background checks in their country, medical exams, refuse visas to those with criminals records. Nothing new about this.
Why do we keep acting like it’s such a tough problem? The answers have been right under our noses all our lives. Codified into Federal law, in fact.
There’s nothing wrong with our immigrations laws… except the fact that we’re not obeying them. That is a BIG problem… and we need to toss out first, the ones who have been responsible, in both parties.
“The answers (are) right under our noses. Codified into Federal law…There’s nothing wrong with our __________ laws…except that we’re not obeying them”
True of immigration…and you could plug quite a few other of our societal ills (guns, drugs, entitlements, states’ rights, etc. etc.) into that blurb and those would be true too. Pretty good argument that more laws (do it again! harder! this time we really mean it!) ain’t the answer to non-enforcement or selective enforcement of the ones we have.
Toss out the ones responsible? Yes, and toss out some of their ineffectual laws as well…starting with immigration, which issue being all by itself capable of overwhelming our ability to do anything else, politically, culturally, militarily, etc…political and legal gridlock, or worse.
Slam the immigration door shut. Totally. Completely. Possibly permanently. The threat is not just from the south, but from every direction. Right now activists and other governments say the U.S. “must” take in thousands of “refugees” from countries and cultures who by and large are sworn to our destruction, which they will undertake given the chance. And that is just the current deluge. Where will it end? Answer, it won’t, unless and until that destruction occurs (and who could argue with a straight face that it is not well underway?).
Or until ALL entry into this country is stopped cold, at least until we can re-group and take stock of what is desireable and possible. Otherwise we might find our ownselves seeking asylum somewhere. But where? Heinlein knew, and told us, but even he did not envision the urgency, or the curtailment of the potential for other-worldly colonization. So here we are. But for how long?
September 16, 2015 at 12:24 am
interventor
If, they served well in the military, and/or contributed to the community by running a successful business, those should be considered.
September 16, 2015 at 9:36 am
B Woodman
Then they probably would have done it right, by coming in through the “front door”, not breaking in through the back window. In which case, it’s still easy to tell the good ones from the illegals.
A meeting of the Dons…there are other “dons” with similar resumes who didn’t make it to the ranch, but here we’ll discuss just these two notables.
While we know something of the Don T. as to his history, activities, and proclivities, not so of the Don P. And we can extrapolate that the former has built and wielded his fortune and power rather non-altruistically in terms of any real public activism…until very recently. And now he says he wants to use that fortune to attain a position from which altruism will flow. Is he credible? We’ll know pretty soon.
But one wonders at the implied superior wisdom of the other Don, to the degree that the relationship is presented as master and pupil. Why? Is it that his supposed fortune is eight-fold? Or has he crafted a superior and prosperous society somewhere in South America that is unknown to the rest of the world? And if not, why not, and what makes him so prescient and worthy as to advise the would-be king of the north rather than trying to save his own south so that his people would not clamor to come to and overwhelm the one place where they all -including Don P. himself- would rather be?
By all storyline indications, he’s a hell of a daddy, and a badass businessman. But the whole tone of condescension seems pretty thin.
And to save all some time, yes I know…it’s just a humorous web-comic.
It is, but then again it ain’t.
September 16, 2015 at 7:54 am
eon
Then again, it could simply be that Don P. has managed to earn and retain his fortune in spite of living in a country that has been ruled by a succession of failed socialist governments. And in doing so, has learned from observation not just the fact that socialism always fails, but how and why it always does so.
If it had a prayer of ever working, I suspect that Don P., being a fundamentally practical man, would be advising “Donny” as to how to do it correctly. The fact that he is not doing so strongly indicates that as many of the less PC experts in the “real world” maintain, there really isn’t a way to make it work unless your objective is one of the two things socialism is actually good at.
Namely, creating an all-powerful, oppressive government. And murdering human beings, often en masse.
In these things, socialism is roughly as effective as monarchy and theocracy. Two systems that “true socialists” affect to despise in most cases.
Although they make exceptions for the likes of Latin American leftist caudillos who live like kings without actually calling themselves such (Castro, Chavez), and eschatological religious fanatics who hate Christians and Jews as much as the socialists do (Iran, most Islamic states).
To be a socialist doesn’t just require being a liar. You have to spend a lot of time lying to yourself about what you really are in favor of.
Unless, of course, you’re a sociopath who does it because you actually enjoy that sort of thing.
I know, I was just being ironic. And I’m well aware of the convulsions of South (and Central) American “governments”.
That is why (even though I am glad for the voice of hard-won experience, God knows our own gov is convulsing as we speak) I wondered why DP was apparently successful at creating/extracting great wealth in his native home, but obviously unsuccessful at saving it from its own socialst death-spiral(s).
September 16, 2015 at 12:53 am
Calvin
Did I miss it earlier….did Don Portago start out life rich as well?
I am warming to the idea of a Trump presidency for one compelling reason. We have three enemies domestically; the liberal/socialist/democrats, the entrenched liberal bureaucracy, and the liberal media. The current GOP leadership seems deathly afraid of taking on incompetence in the bureaucracy (You’re Fired!) and even more afraid of being labeled a racist, obstructionist, or whatever you have today. Trump, I believe, would come right back in their face and force the media to eat their crappy charges or put up some evidence.
Still, it would be fun to see John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and John Bolton sitting across from Trump in the Oval Office. You talked a good game Hillary but it was all about the money to you and Bill….you’re Fired! John…I’m not even going to talk about that unmitigated disaster with Iran…you’re FIRED! Mr. Bolton….you’re not perfect but the world is what it is. You didn’t embarrass the country and you didn’t lie about what you accomplished and you have some good ideas….you’re HIRED!
September 16, 2015 at 9:54 am
B Woodman
You left out a fourth domestic enemy, one you mentioned above — the RINOs, the GOPe (establishment). They are just as much a domestic enemy as the leftist Libtards you also mentioned. The RINO GOPe are more concerned with their own power, their continued re-election(s), than they are concerned with the freedoms of the country and its people. The RINO GOPe may not be actively stripping away the freedoms and the money of the little people, but they are just as implicit in those losses by their continued inaction, and cooperation (bipartisan hands across the aisle) with the DemonRats.
September 16, 2015 at 4:53 am
Bill G
Donny Boy’s history is that of walking away when the deal starts to go bad, and if it leaves smaller people in the deal holding the bag, too bad.
I don’t want him considering the Presidency such a deal, even if he could be talked into sound basic principles of operation.
September 16, 2015 at 8:14 am
gafling
Your concern pretty much mandates why we should have Cruz as VPOTUS. I’m not convinced that Carson has the stones to do justice to the office of POTUS if Trump were to bail.
Trump/Cruz or Trump/Rubio (as a distant second choice)
Donnie wants to gives people a break. Enough already.
Out of the Elected officials and the Government helping and making things better for the American people.
Really? Dreams have been broken, Hopes have been crushed and Change has wrecked havoc. We are being sold out and betrayed.
What’s next? May the odds always be ever in your favor.
September 16, 2015 at 8:25 am
Paladin
Trump is not my 1st choice (Cruz), he’s not may 2nd choice (Paul), he’s not my 3rd choice (Walker), he’s not my 4th choice (Jindal). But I’m happy he’s in the race, because he is pissing off all the right people. RINO’s, Progressives, Wall St. Hedge Fund parasites. Basically the Ruling Class.
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Heh… For some reason, calling The Donald “Donnie” makes me chuckle…
And don Portago should know these things. America needs a hard cold CAPITALIST as a POTUS. A true CONSERVATIVE who WILL deport the illegal wastes. Keep the good ones? How do you identify those? Other than weed those on welfare, and review any and all money transfers out of the country.
How do you identify the bad ones? By obeying the laws that have been on the books for decades. Background checks in their country, medical exams, refuse visas to those with criminals records. Nothing new about this.
Why do we keep acting like it’s such a tough problem? The answers have been right under our noses all our lives. Codified into Federal law, in fact.
There’s nothing wrong with our immigrations laws… except the fact that we’re not obeying them. That is a BIG problem… and we need to toss out first, the ones who have been responsible, in both parties.
“Keep the good ones? How do you identify those?”
“The answers (are) right under our noses. Codified into Federal law…There’s nothing wrong with our __________ laws…except that we’re not obeying them”
True of immigration…and you could plug quite a few other of our societal ills (guns, drugs, entitlements, states’ rights, etc. etc.) into that blurb and those would be true too. Pretty good argument that more laws (do it again! harder! this time we really mean it!) ain’t the answer to non-enforcement or selective enforcement of the ones we have.
Toss out the ones responsible? Yes, and toss out some of their ineffectual laws as well…starting with immigration, which issue being all by itself capable of overwhelming our ability to do anything else, politically, culturally, militarily, etc…political and legal gridlock, or worse.
Slam the immigration door shut. Totally. Completely. Possibly permanently. The threat is not just from the south, but from every direction. Right now activists and other governments say the U.S. “must” take in thousands of “refugees” from countries and cultures who by and large are sworn to our destruction, which they will undertake given the chance. And that is just the current deluge. Where will it end? Answer, it won’t, unless and until that destruction occurs (and who could argue with a straight face that it is not well underway?).
Or until ALL entry into this country is stopped cold, at least until we can re-group and take stock of what is desireable and possible. Otherwise we might find our ownselves seeking asylum somewhere. But where? Heinlein knew, and told us, but even he did not envision the urgency, or the curtailment of the potential for other-worldly colonization. So here we are. But for how long?
If, they served well in the military, and/or contributed to the community by running a successful business, those should be considered.
Then they probably would have done it right, by coming in through the “front door”, not breaking in through the back window. In which case, it’s still easy to tell the good ones from the illegals.
A meeting of the Dons…there are other “dons” with similar resumes who didn’t make it to the ranch, but here we’ll discuss just these two notables.
While we know something of the Don T. as to his history, activities, and proclivities, not so of the Don P. And we can extrapolate that the former has built and wielded his fortune and power rather non-altruistically in terms of any real public activism…until very recently. And now he says he wants to use that fortune to attain a position from which altruism will flow. Is he credible? We’ll know pretty soon.
But one wonders at the implied superior wisdom of the other Don, to the degree that the relationship is presented as master and pupil. Why? Is it that his supposed fortune is eight-fold? Or has he crafted a superior and prosperous society somewhere in South America that is unknown to the rest of the world? And if not, why not, and what makes him so prescient and worthy as to advise the would-be king of the north rather than trying to save his own south so that his people would not clamor to come to and overwhelm the one place where they all -including Don P. himself- would rather be?
By all storyline indications, he’s a hell of a daddy, and a badass businessman. But the whole tone of condescension seems pretty thin.
And to save all some time, yes I know…it’s just a humorous web-comic.
It is, but then again it ain’t.
Then again, it could simply be that Don P. has managed to earn and retain his fortune in spite of living in a country that has been ruled by a succession of failed socialist governments. And in doing so, has learned from observation not just the fact that socialism always fails, but how and why it always does so.
If it had a prayer of ever working, I suspect that Don P., being a fundamentally practical man, would be advising “Donny” as to how to do it correctly. The fact that he is not doing so strongly indicates that as many of the less PC experts in the “real world” maintain, there really isn’t a way to make it work unless your objective is one of the two things socialism is actually good at.
Namely, creating an all-powerful, oppressive government. And murdering human beings, often en masse.
In these things, socialism is roughly as effective as monarchy and theocracy. Two systems that “true socialists” affect to despise in most cases.
Although they make exceptions for the likes of Latin American leftist caudillos who live like kings without actually calling themselves such (Castro, Chavez), and eschatological religious fanatics who hate Christians and Jews as much as the socialists do (Iran, most Islamic states).
To be a socialist doesn’t just require being a liar. You have to spend a lot of time lying to yourself about what you really are in favor of.
Unless, of course, you’re a sociopath who does it because you actually enjoy that sort of thing.
(Barry? Barry?)
( Hillary?)
clear ether
eon
That first paragraph says Don P.; did you mean it to say Don T.? 😉
After due consideration, I’d say it could/would be either . . .
Nope. Google “Argentina socialist governments”. To say nothing of Chile’, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay….
Or just read Guide to the Perfect Latin American Idiot by Plinio Apuleyo Mendoza, Carlos Alberto Montaner, and Alvaro Vargas Llosa;
http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Perfect-Latin-American-Idiot/dp/156833236X
The main reason The One is such a disaster is his seeming compulsion to behave precisely like a typical Latin American leftist caudillo.
cheers
eon
I know, I was just being ironic. And I’m well aware of the convulsions of South (and Central) American “governments”.
That is why (even though I am glad for the voice of hard-won experience, God knows our own gov is convulsing as we speak) I wondered why DP was apparently successful at creating/extracting great wealth in his native home, but obviously unsuccessful at saving it from its own socialst death-spiral(s).
Did I miss it earlier….did Don Portago start out life rich as well?
I am warming to the idea of a Trump presidency for one compelling reason. We have three enemies domestically; the liberal/socialist/democrats, the entrenched liberal bureaucracy, and the liberal media. The current GOP leadership seems deathly afraid of taking on incompetence in the bureaucracy (You’re Fired!) and even more afraid of being labeled a racist, obstructionist, or whatever you have today. Trump, I believe, would come right back in their face and force the media to eat their crappy charges or put up some evidence.
Still, it would be fun to see John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and John Bolton sitting across from Trump in the Oval Office. You talked a good game Hillary but it was all about the money to you and Bill….you’re Fired! John…I’m not even going to talk about that unmitigated disaster with Iran…you’re FIRED! Mr. Bolton….you’re not perfect but the world is what it is. You didn’t embarrass the country and you didn’t lie about what you accomplished and you have some good ideas….you’re HIRED!
You left out a fourth domestic enemy, one you mentioned above — the RINOs, the GOPe (establishment). They are just as much a domestic enemy as the leftist Libtards you also mentioned. The RINO GOPe are more concerned with their own power, their continued re-election(s), than they are concerned with the freedoms of the country and its people. The RINO GOPe may not be actively stripping away the freedoms and the money of the little people, but they are just as implicit in those losses by their continued inaction, and cooperation (bipartisan hands across the aisle) with the DemonRats.
Donny Boy’s history is that of walking away when the deal starts to go bad, and if it leaves smaller people in the deal holding the bag, too bad.
I don’t want him considering the Presidency such a deal, even if he could be talked into sound basic principles of operation.
Your concern pretty much mandates why we should have Cruz as VPOTUS. I’m not convinced that Carson has the stones to do justice to the office of POTUS if Trump were to bail.
Trump/Cruz or Trump/Rubio (as a distant second choice)
Along with doing away with ‘sanctuary’ places lets hope the drivers license issue gets looked at. Just another law not being enforced: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Driving_Permit
Donnie wants to gives people a break. Enough already.
Out of the Elected officials and the Government helping and making things better for the American people.
Really? Dreams have been broken, Hopes have been crushed and Change has wrecked havoc. We are being sold out and betrayed.
What’s next? May the odds always be ever in your favor.
Trump is not my 1st choice (Cruz), he’s not may 2nd choice (Paul), he’s not my 3rd choice (Walker), he’s not my 4th choice (Jindal). But I’m happy he’s in the race, because he is pissing off all the right people. RINO’s, Progressives, Wall St. Hedge Fund parasites. Basically the Ruling Class.
The GOP has no one to blame, but themselves. They have proven they cannot be trusted. This lays it out very well: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/07/an-open-letter-to-jonah-goldberg-re-the-gop-and-donald-trump/
Trust me, it is worth reading.
“What’s with Trump and *your* dad?”
I thought DP was both girls’ dad, with different babymamas?
DP is Papa’ to Jan Portago (maiden name) only. Sam/Skye’s Irish father, Mr.Flanagan, died years ago.
Crap, I knew that. Confusing the sibling thing again, maybe due to their (formerly) shared politics. Thanks. 🙂