Records can be broken. All depends on who does the breaking.
Then the rebuilding.
May 20, 2016 at 11:32 pm
Delilah T.
It’s almost too quiet. Pause before the storm…? The wind is changing direction. The EU is swinging toward the conservative side of the fence.
One analyst has hinted that he thinks there may be a 3rd party nominee. If so, I don’t think it will be Cruz. More like Sanders. He’s a stubborn old fart, but his followers will not vote for shrillary and hers won’t vote for him.
Wait and see.
May 21, 2016 at 7:06 am
Bill G
I’ll try and remember not to post this again, but I’m strongly reminded of the words Doyle put into Holmes’s mouth:
“There’s an east wind coming all the same, such a wind as never blew on England yet. It will be cold and bitter, Watson, and a good many of us may wither before its blast. But it’s God’s own wind none the less and a cleaner, better stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has cleared.”
May 21, 2016 at 1:22 pm
WSC
Excellent post.
May 21, 2016 at 7:42 am
eon
It’s past the filing date for the general election in most states, so a third party run at this point can only be seen as what it really is; an attempt to dilute the anti-establishment vote and crown Hillary as Queen.
Rather than Sanders, I expect Romney or Rubio. Or both together. The GOPe don’t expect them to win; just to get Hillary across the finish line.
Third party Presidential runs historically favor the Dems. See Bull Moose party, 1912; TR apparently did not anticipate that he would be making Woodrow Wilson POTUS. Perot in 1992 put Clinton 42 in the White House with his ostensible “wife”/actual co-president.
I’m sure she’s counting on it working again.
clear ether
eon
May 21, 2016 at 8:57 am
Delilah T.
You give up too easily.
May 20, 2016 at 11:34 pm
Ed Woods
The Clinton Democratic Party – For America’s Working Girls.”
May 21, 2016 at 12:09 am
B Woodman
The GOP(e) party is (too) slowly dissolving and reforming into a more conservative GOP political entity.
Meanwhile the Democrats, the former party of the former working family, is fracturing into the DemonRats, the party of special interest victim groups.
May 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
Pete231
As Will Rogers once said : ” I don’t make jokes – I just watch the government and report the facts. “
May 21, 2016 at 12:52 am
interventor
Will Rogers, “Mussolini, what a WOP!”
May 21, 2016 at 12:52 am
JLG
“Democrat Party”?
Seriously? Putting that in the mouth of a liberal character?
A masterful moment of unintentional, un-self aware comedy.
This is being such a clusterf… Let us pray that The Donald is what we see. Of course the attack dogs are all over him, let us just hope that what we see will in fact be what we get.
VERMIN SUPREME! …because hey, you know exactly what you’re gettin, and you can bet the special interests ain’t touching him with a ten foot pole.
Seriously, he’s the sort Heinlein would describe as “not the type of honest to STAY bribed”.
I mean, once you’ve got the money, you vote however you want…
What are they going to do? Announce that you took the money and didn’t deliver?
Note to self. Claim to have bribed a politician, and say they didn’t deliver.
May 21, 2016 at 11:41 am
Erik
I look forward to Mr. Supreme’s proposed pony-based economy. Although the folks over at Popehat will have to hide in deep underground bunkers during for the duration…
May 21, 2016 at 5:43 am
Bill G
Excellent and concise analysis of the state of today’s old political parties.
May 21, 2016 at 7:56 am
eon
When the parties use the term “working class” they mean it in the terms of a socialist “proletariat”. Historically, no oligarchic state of any sort, from monarchial to Marxist, has even survived without erasing its country’s mercantile middle class.
Such a state can only “thrive” (i.e., keep its elite’ in power) with a small, select ruling class and a large oppressed lower class to supply taxes, justifications for “initiatives”… and cannon fodder.
Purges are the last resort after the middle class has been hollowed out by social and tax legislation. See; Stalin, terror famine, also Albigensian Crusade and Cathar Suppression. The latter was supposedly about religious heresy but was also used as the “justification” for destroying the economy of the half of France that wasn’t firmly under the king’s control.
Yes, the Thirty Years’ War was also a purge of the middle class, mainly in Germany, by its “betters”. If Lutheranism hadn’t been available to the (Catholic) German princes as an excuse, another would have been found.
Witchcraft being a frequently-used one. Check the Salem trials. Those accused tended to be middle class other than a few poor, older women who could easily be painted as The Wicked Witch of the West. And after conviction and execution, the “witch’s” property, including any belonging to their relations, was forfeit to “the state” i.e., the tribunal.
Ultimately ruling classes need peasants, not merchants. And tend to use the one as the mob to lynch the other.
Killing off a bunch of the mob to reduce the amount of “rabble” is a job for their guards after the fact.
No, the mob never “gets it”. Except in the neck.
clear ether
eon
May 21, 2016 at 8:35 am
DASTARDLY DAN
Q:
Donald and Hillary are in a lifeboat somewhere in the middle of the ocean. Who survives?
A: The United States
May 21, 2016 at 8:58 am
Delilah T.
Wrong answer. Correct answer: the sharks.
May 21, 2016 at 8:59 am
DASTARDLY DAN
nope, sharks won’t eat those two, professional courtesy
May 21, 2016 at 11:13 am
Pamela
Need to keep them out of the food chain.
May 21, 2016 at 8:58 am
DASTARDLY DAN
I think I’m going to be forced to vote for Gary Johnson.
Trump could change my mind if he promised (yeah, right) that he would resend all the crap O-boy had done by executive order, and then call for a re-writing of the executive order law to limit it to declarations of war when the country was in peril. The order would have to be confirmed by 2/3 of both houses within 90 days to stand.
May 21, 2016 at 12:01 pm
Erik
There are a lot of things I disagree with Gary Johnson with, but he’s the first Presidential candidate in a long time where I would actually feel OK with the compromise – mainly because he has a well-proven track record of vetoing wasteful spending. The guy’s a legend with the veto pen. I’m meh on Weld, but I guess it makes sense politically.
He has already promised recission. Try to keep up.
May 21, 2016 at 9:13 am
Delilah T.
Shrillary is only running for office to get that slimeball hubby of hers back into the White House. She’s already said, about 10 days ago, that she’ll appoint him to a position he’s barred from taking because HE had two terms in office. If I can find the link to that story, I’ll post it.
This campaign is not about HER being president. She’s just the front for him.
If you will recall that ‘era’, Slick Willie got the Glass-Steagall Act repealed, among other things. The increase in internet use and innovations that followed were responsible for job growth, not that perv.
So what did I say? She’s just a front for him.
May 21, 2016 at 10:25 am
interventor
He only repealed the portion of Glass-Segall not allowing banks to also have investment houses. FDIC deposits were still protected from those in vestments. Had nothing to do with recession.
Not only is BJ not going to be running the show this term upcoming, but he mostly didn’t in the 90’s. Content to keep his hands under the desk and off the switches, he was content to let Reaganomics work and take credit for it.
That majorly pissed the evil bitch HRC as her destructive abilities were limited. That won’t be the case when she takes the chair to double down on the evil intent but impotent results under the zero…the beast has something to prove and she wants vengeance for being forced into the background for 25 years. A Hillary Clinton presidency will almost certainly force some degree of insurrection, secession, and/or civil war.
May 21, 2016 at 12:16 pm
Steveb919
I despise Hildabeast Cankles. I will vote for Trump.
May 21, 2016 at 12:42 pm
cb
The Donald is 3d party the way the so called Republican Elite are acting.
The Donald is essentially 3P but he has hijacked the lazy stupid gopes easy chair right out from under them and is remaking the R’s in the Prag image.
Take a look at Mychal Massie’s more recent posts there too, he called the bathroom bullshit seven years ago, among many other dead brilliant posts.
Sharpest knife in the drawer among black commentators ever since Sowell committed harikari with his. Trump should seriously consider him as veep.
May 21, 2016 at 2:30 pm
John Greer
Thanks for the heads-up!:)
May 21, 2016 at 12:54 pm
NotYetInACamp
I belong to no organized political party. I’m a Democrat.
– BOB HOPE
May 21, 2016 at 2:31 pm
John Greer
Bob Hope may have said it but Will Rogers beat him to it.
Besides, I thought Hope was a Republican.
May 21, 2016 at 1:27 pm
NotYetInACamp
The rising up of the American people has been sidetracked into a dead end so many times over the past 50 years.
Reagan approved an amnesty before the agreed on further enforcement laws were passed. Of course the democrats just never passed them, fulfilling a double cross.
Ross Perot’s rise reflected the disgust with NAFTA and the destruction of American jobs. Perot was threatened with his and his families life. So he got out. Then the same threat got him back in after Perot went from most preferred to third place. Thus Clinton was placed in the White house.
The Bushes. NWO The rest of the field were eliminated and they were all that was left.
Obama. NWO. CIA (?) plant. Shill. Extender of Islam. Importer of jihad brigades into the USA for a possible future rolling TET style offensive. Islam is the enemy of all not Islam. Blacks have it much worse than before he was elected. Illegal Latin invaders were brought in to even further increase black unemployment and replace Americans. He sucks even more wealth out of the nation by unchecked spending. No budget past the first one and the continuing resolution continually pours trillions into leftist causes across the nation in an ongoing resolution type of way. A Cloward-Piven type attack on the wealth of the USA. Incompetence of government massively increased. Obama grinds up the military in unneeded undeclared wars. Shrinks the military below pre WW2 size. Purges competent officers like the political commissars purged the officers in the Red Army prior to WW2.
All along the real income of the working person falls. A bag boy in Publix Supermarket in Florida earned in the 1960’s what would be comparable to about $22 an hour now. There was no need for that $15 an hour minimum wage effort, though there was a minimum wage back then. The whole economy produced greater value with more people producing wealth for all.
Less people working means less to spread around of wealth for the people by natural market means. Invaders get more in benefits than retired lifelong workers. They get better medical care than most all including veterans.
The Democrats and Republicans have rarely worked for the people. Though the Republican principles do result in more for the workers. But when has the party followed its principles? It has followed the GOPe and globalist agenda, as has the Democrat Party, for ages.
Trump is the closest to what America has needed in decades.
All of his pronouncements and actions have been mostly classic American principles.
He is the only American that can be the facilitator of the people of this country doing as Americans do.
The transformation of the USA Obama has been destroying the nation with must be undone, unwound, and returned to its senders,.
We can make Mexico great again. We can give them back all of their Mexican citizens. Like the 1000 miles of needed wall and any other considered. That is a starting point.
We can make America great again by removing the shackles on the economy, like most of the $2Trillion a year in regulations that keeps growing. restoring clean coal energy production, and creat an environment that encourages and rewards hiring Americans and opening and keeping factories and production in the USA at least at an equal level.
Trump is the best hope for Americans getting the systems back running that benefit the country.
Those same systems are being crashed to push the world into global control.
many of these and more forces have been recognized for a long while. But the power of distraction is used to neutralize those that would point them out.
For the next chapter … 🙂
May 21, 2016 at 2:47 pm
writeby
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” –_Animal Farm_, by George Orwell
It was certainly not Bob Hope. It definitely was Will Rogers. Hope was very much a Republican. Will also said then when Congress makes a joke it’s a law. And when Congress makes a law, it’s a joke. Y’all come by the Will Rogers Memorial in Claremore. You will enjoy it.
Although Will was a registered dhimocrapt, he was really more of a populist. Ever heard that term before? The Rogers clan was generally revered by the Cherokees, and later most of the people of Oklahoma and the US. The colonial John Rogers was highly educated and an early leader of the tribe. Unfortunately, I don’t think he ever met fauxahauntis’s ancestor, the guard officer on the trail of tears who murdered his relatives.
May 21, 2016 at 8:13 pm
B Woodman
“GOP(e) – (paid) for (by) America’s working class.”
There. Fixed it for ya. Yer welcome.
May 21, 2016 at 10:04 pm
Pamela
Maybe the qualifiers regarding naming protocols for political organizations is anything with Grand Old Party has lots booze, funny hats, music and having a good time. Whilst Democratic Party has to do with Demo as in Demolish or Demolition and not along Derby lines. Tear people and sacred institutions down replacing them with the profane. Destroy and desecrate. Wimps and Bullies. Villains, Thieves, Scoundrels and Liars. A sad state of affairs.
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Records can be broken. All depends on who does the breaking.
Then the rebuilding.
It’s almost too quiet. Pause before the storm…? The wind is changing direction. The EU is swinging toward the conservative side of the fence.
One analyst has hinted that he thinks there may be a 3rd party nominee. If so, I don’t think it will be Cruz. More like Sanders. He’s a stubborn old fart, but his followers will not vote for shrillary and hers won’t vote for him.
Wait and see.
I’ll try and remember not to post this again, but I’m strongly reminded of the words Doyle put into Holmes’s mouth:
“There’s an east wind coming all the same, such a wind as never blew on England yet. It will be cold and bitter, Watson, and a good many of us may wither before its blast. But it’s God’s own wind none the less and a cleaner, better stronger land will lie in the sunshine when the storm has cleared.”
Excellent post.
It’s past the filing date for the general election in most states, so a third party run at this point can only be seen as what it really is; an attempt to dilute the anti-establishment vote and crown Hillary as Queen.
Rather than Sanders, I expect Romney or Rubio. Or both together. The GOPe don’t expect them to win; just to get Hillary across the finish line.
Third party Presidential runs historically favor the Dems. See Bull Moose party, 1912; TR apparently did not anticipate that he would be making Woodrow Wilson POTUS. Perot in 1992 put Clinton 42 in the White House with his ostensible “wife”/actual co-president.
I’m sure she’s counting on it working again.
clear ether
eon
You give up too easily.
The Clinton Democratic Party – For America’s Working Girls.”
The GOP(e) party is (too) slowly dissolving and reforming into a more conservative GOP political entity.
Meanwhile the Democrats, the former party of the former working family, is fracturing into the DemonRats, the party of special interest victim groups.
As Will Rogers once said : ” I don’t make jokes – I just watch the government and report the facts. “
Will Rogers, “Mussolini, what a WOP!”
“Democrat Party”?
Seriously? Putting that in the mouth of a liberal character?
A masterful moment of unintentional, un-self aware comedy.
This is being such a clusterf… Let us pray that The Donald is what we see. Of course the attack dogs are all over him, let us just hope that what we see will in fact be what we get.
Or should I say what we see IN HIM…
VERMIN SUPREME! …because hey, you know exactly what you’re gettin, and you can bet the special interests ain’t touching him with a ten foot pole.
Seriously, he’s the sort Heinlein would describe as “not the type of honest to STAY bribed”.
I mean, once you’ve got the money, you vote however you want…
What are they going to do? Announce that you took the money and didn’t deliver?
Note to self. Claim to have bribed a politician, and say they didn’t deliver.
I look forward to Mr. Supreme’s proposed pony-based economy. Although the folks over at Popehat will have to hide in deep underground bunkers during for the duration…
Excellent and concise analysis of the state of today’s old political parties.
When the parties use the term “working class” they mean it in the terms of a socialist “proletariat”. Historically, no oligarchic state of any sort, from monarchial to Marxist, has even survived without erasing its country’s mercantile middle class.
Such a state can only “thrive” (i.e., keep its elite’ in power) with a small, select ruling class and a large oppressed lower class to supply taxes, justifications for “initiatives”… and cannon fodder.
Purges are the last resort after the middle class has been hollowed out by social and tax legislation. See; Stalin, terror famine, also Albigensian Crusade and Cathar Suppression. The latter was supposedly about religious heresy but was also used as the “justification” for destroying the economy of the half of France that wasn’t firmly under the king’s control.
Yes, the Thirty Years’ War was also a purge of the middle class, mainly in Germany, by its “betters”. If Lutheranism hadn’t been available to the (Catholic) German princes as an excuse, another would have been found.
Witchcraft being a frequently-used one. Check the Salem trials. Those accused tended to be middle class other than a few poor, older women who could easily be painted as The Wicked Witch of the West. And after conviction and execution, the “witch’s” property, including any belonging to their relations, was forfeit to “the state” i.e., the tribunal.
Ultimately ruling classes need peasants, not merchants. And tend to use the one as the mob to lynch the other.
Killing off a bunch of the mob to reduce the amount of “rabble” is a job for their guards after the fact.
No, the mob never “gets it”. Except in the neck.
clear ether
eon
Q:
Donald and Hillary are in a lifeboat somewhere in the middle of the ocean. Who survives?
A: The United States
Wrong answer. Correct answer: the sharks.
nope, sharks won’t eat those two, professional courtesy
Need to keep them out of the food chain.
I think I’m going to be forced to vote for Gary Johnson.
Trump could change my mind if he promised (yeah, right) that he would resend all the crap O-boy had done by executive order, and then call for a re-writing of the executive order law to limit it to declarations of war when the country was in peril. The order would have to be confirmed by 2/3 of both houses within 90 days to stand.
There are a lot of things I disagree with Gary Johnson with, but he’s the first Presidential candidate in a long time where I would actually feel OK with the compromise – mainly because he has a well-proven track record of vetoing wasteful spending. The guy’s a legend with the veto pen. I’m meh on Weld, but I guess it makes sense politically.
He has already promised recission. Try to keep up.
Shrillary is only running for office to get that slimeball hubby of hers back into the White House. She’s already said, about 10 days ago, that she’ll appoint him to a position he’s barred from taking because HE had two terms in office. If I can find the link to that story, I’ll post it.
This campaign is not about HER being president. She’s just the front for him.
Here we go:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/280447-clinton-world-criticism-of-bill-mind-boggling
If you will recall that ‘era’, Slick Willie got the Glass-Steagall Act repealed, among other things. The increase in internet use and innovations that followed were responsible for job growth, not that perv.
So what did I say? She’s just a front for him.
He only repealed the portion of Glass-Segall not allowing banks to also have investment houses. FDIC deposits were still protected from those in vestments. Had nothing to do with recession.
Not only is BJ not going to be running the show this term upcoming, but he mostly didn’t in the 90’s. Content to keep his hands under the desk and off the switches, he was content to let Reaganomics work and take credit for it.
That majorly pissed the evil bitch HRC as her destructive abilities were limited. That won’t be the case when she takes the chair to double down on the evil intent but impotent results under the zero…the beast has something to prove and she wants vengeance for being forced into the background for 25 years. A Hillary Clinton presidency will almost certainly force some degree of insurrection, secession, and/or civil war.
I despise Hildabeast Cankles. I will vote for Trump.
The Donald is 3d party the way the so called Republican Elite are acting.
Correct. Call it the Prag party:
http://mychal-massie.com/premium/trump-is-not-conservative-hes-a-pragmatist/
The Donald is essentially 3P but he has hijacked the lazy stupid gopes easy chair right out from under them and is remaking the R’s in the Prag image.
Take a look at Mychal Massie’s more recent posts there too, he called the bathroom bullshit seven years ago, among many other dead brilliant posts.
Sharpest knife in the drawer among black commentators ever since Sowell committed harikari with his. Trump should seriously consider him as veep.
Thanks for the heads-up!:)
I belong to no organized political party. I’m a Democrat.
– BOB HOPE
Bob Hope may have said it but Will Rogers beat him to it.
Besides, I thought Hope was a Republican.
The rising up of the American people has been sidetracked into a dead end so many times over the past 50 years.
Reagan approved an amnesty before the agreed on further enforcement laws were passed. Of course the democrats just never passed them, fulfilling a double cross.
Ross Perot’s rise reflected the disgust with NAFTA and the destruction of American jobs. Perot was threatened with his and his families life. So he got out. Then the same threat got him back in after Perot went from most preferred to third place. Thus Clinton was placed in the White house.
The Bushes. NWO The rest of the field were eliminated and they were all that was left.
Obama. NWO. CIA (?) plant. Shill. Extender of Islam. Importer of jihad brigades into the USA for a possible future rolling TET style offensive. Islam is the enemy of all not Islam. Blacks have it much worse than before he was elected. Illegal Latin invaders were brought in to even further increase black unemployment and replace Americans. He sucks even more wealth out of the nation by unchecked spending. No budget past the first one and the continuing resolution continually pours trillions into leftist causes across the nation in an ongoing resolution type of way. A Cloward-Piven type attack on the wealth of the USA. Incompetence of government massively increased. Obama grinds up the military in unneeded undeclared wars. Shrinks the military below pre WW2 size. Purges competent officers like the political commissars purged the officers in the Red Army prior to WW2.
All along the real income of the working person falls. A bag boy in Publix Supermarket in Florida earned in the 1960’s what would be comparable to about $22 an hour now. There was no need for that $15 an hour minimum wage effort, though there was a minimum wage back then. The whole economy produced greater value with more people producing wealth for all.
Less people working means less to spread around of wealth for the people by natural market means. Invaders get more in benefits than retired lifelong workers. They get better medical care than most all including veterans.
The Democrats and Republicans have rarely worked for the people. Though the Republican principles do result in more for the workers. But when has the party followed its principles? It has followed the GOPe and globalist agenda, as has the Democrat Party, for ages.
Trump is the closest to what America has needed in decades.
All of his pronouncements and actions have been mostly classic American principles.
He is the only American that can be the facilitator of the people of this country doing as Americans do.
The transformation of the USA Obama has been destroying the nation with must be undone, unwound, and returned to its senders,.
We can make Mexico great again. We can give them back all of their Mexican citizens. Like the 1000 miles of needed wall and any other considered. That is a starting point.
We can make America great again by removing the shackles on the economy, like most of the $2Trillion a year in regulations that keeps growing. restoring clean coal energy production, and creat an environment that encourages and rewards hiring Americans and opening and keeping factories and production in the USA at least at an equal level.
Trump is the best hope for Americans getting the systems back running that benefit the country.
Those same systems are being crashed to push the world into global control.
many of these and more forces have been recognized for a long while. But the power of distraction is used to neutralize those that would point them out.
For the next chapter … 🙂
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.” –_Animal Farm_, by George Orwell
It was certainly not Bob Hope. It definitely was Will Rogers. Hope was very much a Republican. Will also said then when Congress makes a joke it’s a law. And when Congress makes a law, it’s a joke. Y’all come by the Will Rogers Memorial in Claremore. You will enjoy it.
Although Will was a registered dhimocrapt, he was really more of a populist. Ever heard that term before? The Rogers clan was generally revered by the Cherokees, and later most of the people of Oklahoma and the US. The colonial John Rogers was highly educated and an early leader of the tribe. Unfortunately, I don’t think he ever met fauxahauntis’s ancestor, the guard officer on the trail of tears who murdered his relatives.
“GOP(e) – (paid) for (by) America’s working class.”
There. Fixed it for ya. Yer welcome.
Maybe the qualifiers regarding naming protocols for political organizations is anything with Grand Old Party has lots booze, funny hats, music and having a good time. Whilst Democratic Party has to do with Demo as in Demolish or Demolition and not along Derby lines. Tear people and sacred institutions down replacing them with the profane. Destroy and desecrate. Wimps and Bullies. Villains, Thieves, Scoundrels and Liars. A sad state of affairs.